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IS IIT ANOTHER BOFORS
by ramakanth k on Jul 05, 2008 02:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

IS IT ANOTHER BOFORS DEAL BECAUSE ITALIANIS SO INTERESTED

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RE:IS IIT ANOTHER BOFORS
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 04:23 PM  Permalink
yes it is! What else? & their stooges.

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this Nuclear deal doing great things to india.
by EDWARD CHARLES RATHINARAJ on Jul 05, 2008 02:28 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The most respectable person in india and our greatest every scientist Abdul kalam has told this nuclear is good and mandatory for india and india's growth.

In the interest of the nation, we have to sign it. Its good for the country.

Thanks to abdul kalaam.His respect in the country is at the peak now.

But today so called King makkers "communists" are rubbing their A$$ and dont know what to do. And communists image is totally spoiled in the country.Thats a good sign.

Second, so called third front is broken into pieces.Thats another good sign. Yesterday jeyalalitha left 3rd front.And now third front leader mulayam has gone to congress front.

Its a big blow to Chandrababu naidu. He is facing problems with TDP Telengana leaders.Now he is facing problems with Royalseema leaders. Many leaders yesterday vaccated TDP and joined chiru's party. And finally Mulayam gave a good blow to Naidu. Its time for naidu's retirement.

So this nuclear deal apart from securing nuclear resources for india,its doing many good things to the country.

1. Communists image is rubbed from the paper and needs to be searched.
2. Third front is lost, need a CIA enquiry to find that.
3. It prooved that Chandrababu is neither respected in center nor in Andhra state.

Great.Lets all give big hand to nuclear deal.

Jai Nuclear deal.

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RE:this Nuclear deal doing great things to india.
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 04:31 PM  Permalink
Mulayam! the bugger is dying to come back to power in UP or enter into center for a stupid chair. The Minority card is not supporting his party as they are anti American.

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RE:this Nuclear deal doing great things to india.
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 04:25 PM  Permalink
So you think that Mulayam & Jayalalitha are the saints of this century, then U are mistaken. They are all OPPORTUNIST of third order.
All politicians in this country are a real SHAME on our motherland except few. Regards!

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RE:this Nuclear deal doing great things to india.
by EDWARD CHARLES RATHINARAJ on Jul 05, 2008 04:51 PM  Permalink
Nuclear deal is good for the country.

Politicians has to respect the country than politics.

Nobody needs to become saint,they need to be good to the country.

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RE:this Nuclear deal doing great things to india.
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 04:58 PM  Permalink
"Denying uranium to India is stupid: Opposition as being discussed with Australian Premier. Rudd government will be forced to reverse its "hypocritical" ban on uranium exports to India, the federal opposition says.
It described the ban, implemented shortly after Labor won the November federal election, as "stupidity" because Australia freely sold uranium to states such as China and Russia.
Opposition foreign affair spokesman Andrew Robb says it is hypocritical to deny India, which has always abided by the rules of non-proliferation despite not being party to international agreements, the benefits of nuclear technology while China gains full access."... Is this news is of any importance to our Politicians & what did they do to ask Aus Govt. to extend Uranium supply to India in last three months? ANYBODY can reply Please. Regards

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Atomic Energy Commission chairman Anil Kakodkar is bluffing
by JGN on Jul 05, 2008 01:21 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

A thorium based power plant is already in opeation at Kalpakkam (world's only one). As per Kakkokar's own admission we have enough resources for setting up 10000 MWe Nuclear Power plants but the present installed capacity is onl 2740 MWe (all the plants of NPCIL put together).

We are now in the second stage of nuclear power production (Pressurized heavy water). The US has a vested interest in preventing us from developing the next stage (Thorium based plants).

The present deal with US will only help the equipment manufacturers from US and politicians/bureaucrats who can earn kick-backs, as we do not even manufacture Stand-by Diesel Generating Sets meant for Nuclear Power Plant (Conforming to IEEE-382 Spec). The cost of dismantling a Nuclear Power Plant is more than the cost of setting up a Plant. Many plants whose life has expired has still not dismantled in Europe due the exhorbitant cost involved. And of course there is always a possiblity of accidents like that of Chernobyl.

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RE:Atomic Energy Commission chairman Anil Kakodkar is bluffing
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 04:42 PM  Permalink
Abdul Kalam has earlier emphasized on using Thorium based power plants, but none of the Politicians heard him at that time. Now SP is harping to get some Importance in UPA. To get a share of the loot!***The present deal with US will only help the equipment manufacturers from US and politicians/bureaucrats who can earn kick-backs, as we do not even manufacture Stand-by Diesel Generating Sets meant for Nuclear Power Plant (Conforming to IEEE-382 Spec).*** This point to be noted by all who are asking to go for a deal with US. India will become MORE POOR if they depend on US. Instead of standing on their OWN feet & MAKING sincere effort to combat power issue. Regards!

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RE:Atomic Energy Commission chairman Anil Kakodkar is bluffing
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 01:28 PM  Permalink
I ENDORSE YOUR VIEW, ALSO THESE THORIUM Based plants can generate Uranium which can be further used for other Uranium based Nuclear plants. Regards

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RE:RE:Atomic Energy Commission chairman Anil Kakodkar is bluffing
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 04:46 PM  Permalink
"The present deal with US will only help the equipment manufacturers from US and politicians/bureaucrats who can earn kick-backs, as we do not even manufacture Stand-by Diesel Generating Sets meant for Nuclear Power Plant (Conforming to IEEE-382 Spec)." There are many such issues which are not known to public & being hidden by UPA Govt.IT IS BETTER THAT WE SHOULD STAND ON OUR OWN FEET & TAKE SINCERE MEASURES TO COMBAT POWER ISSUES.

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SIGN THE NUCLEAR DEAL NOW W/O ANY DELAY AS EVRYONE WANTS IT FOR INDIA'S GROWTH, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF ANY COMPROMISE, THAT IS WHAT INDIAN PUBLIC WANTS & EXPECT FROM UPA. REGARDS!
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 01:20 PM  Permalink 

DEAR ALL BOARDERS READ ABOVE & COMMENT. THANKS

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Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by Dipak Bose on Jul 05, 2008 12:11 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

India has enough natural uranium, but the Atomic Energy Commission is not interested to develop these. They claim to have knowledge to turn natural uranium into fuel, but in reality they prefer to import.
All these arguments are based on the theory that only uranium based plants are needed, although FBR does not need uranium after the first cycle and Thoriam-uranianiam mixed fuel plant if under development.
No one should believe these government scientist. Most of then are just as educated as Kalam is ( Diploma Engineer). All their life they have cultured the art of pleasing their political bosses; that is the only reason they got promotions. They have no knowledge.


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RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by nayakan on Jul 05, 2008 12:41 PM  Permalink
Communist and Other parties do not want ManMohan singh to get the credit of this deal.
If we sign this deal for sure the benificiaries will also include the hypocrats who oppose them.
see in WB what progress have the communist done.
People who elect such people have also become nonprogessive.these people will be the first to raise their hand when it comes to their selfish gains.
This deal will be the another revolution like Mr. M Singh did in 1991.

These communist do not have any ideas they are PESTs have to be ignored.
and people who support them knowingly are the biggest traitors of this country.

Jai Hind.

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RE:RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 12:49 PM  Permalink
No one like left or any communist parties, but at the same time no one will oppose importing technical know how directly from developed countries along with Uranium. Our politicians are timid & foolish in their actions. One can not deny that.

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RE:RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 01:10 PM  Permalink
Nayakan! I agree the comm are the pests, & they Marred the growth of WB to BIG ZERO! How about other parties in UP, Bihar etc. etc. they are also half way through...All politicians are dirty up to certain extent, but WB condition is the worst. Regards!

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RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 12:44 PM  Permalink
India has abundant resources of Uranium, & there is lack of will to tap them. Govt.Scientist are the stooges who can't be trusted. Even China & Russia getting Uranium from Aus without any deal, then why go to US? & heed to their demands.

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RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by prakash dipshi on Jul 05, 2008 02:23 PM  Permalink
Mr.Bose If you know something very sure Pl. write otherwise pl. do not write simply write something for the sake of writing. Do you have any proof the Mr.Kalaam is a Diploma Engineer. Don't think that you are the only intelligent person in this world... Sometimes others do have knowledge mind it

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RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 05:43 PM  Permalink
I HOPE THIS IS ENOUGH TO EDUCATE IGNORANT PEOPLE ABOUT DR. ABDUL KALAM......"Dr A.P.J. Abdul Kalam is the undisputed father of India's missile program. He has breathed life into ballistic missiles like the Agni and Prithvi, which put China and Pakistan well under India's missile range. It is too exhausting to track Dr Abdul Kalam's achievements to date. In the '60s and '70s he was a trail blazer in the space department. In the '80s he transformed the moribund Defense Research and Development Laboratory in Hyderabad into a highly motivated team. By the '90s Kalam emerged as the czar of Indian science and technology and was awarded the Bharat Ratna. His life and mission is a vindication of what a determined person can achieve against extraordinary odds. Even at 71, he is indefatigable and dreams of making India into a technological superpower. More importantly, he is still capable of acting on it. Born on 15th October 1931 at Rameshwaram in Tamil Nadu, Avul Pakir Jainulabdeen Abdul Kalam studied at Schwartz High School in Ramanathapuram. After graduating in science from St. Joseph's College in Tiruchi, he did his DMIT in Aeronautical Engineering at the MIT, Madras, during 1954-57".....REGARDS!

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RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by Dipak Bose on Jul 05, 2008 06:18 PM  Permalink
Tamil Nadu has no MIT; that is called Madras Polytechnic now Madras Institute of Technology.
Kalam got only a Diploma in Mechanical Engineeing; that was all.
He has worked as administrator in DRDO, not as a scientist.
India's missiles all came from the Soviet Union since 1987 and then from Russia. That is also true about Rockets. ( Narasimha Rao said that in the Parliament) .
India's nuclear power plants, Heavy Water plant, reprocessing plant, enrichment plants all came from the Soviet Union and Russia since 1968 ( when USA has started the NPT, long before it has imposed sanctions against India in 1974).
Russia also developing Thorium-Uranium mixed fuel plant and Fast Breeder Reactors in India.
India has developed nothing at all.
DRDO could not develop even a tank or aircraft.It has wasted Rs.7500 Crores for people like Kalam.



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RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 05, 2008 12:24 PM  Permalink
Mr. Bose I believe you are nuclear scientist. Please use your knowledge and invent an reactor based on your natural uranium or thorium.Our scientists have failed to invent such reactor. We want you to Show the path and lead us to become independent on nuclear energy BUT NO LIP SERVICE PLEASE.

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RE:Rubbish argument from a Government scientist
by JGN on Jul 05, 2008 01:16 PM  Permalink
Mr.Jitendra Kumar, a thorium based power plant is already in opeation at Kalpakkam (world's only one). If you do not know the facts, pl don't ridicule others. As per Kakkokar's own admission we have enough resources for setting up 10000 MWe Nuclear Power plants but the present installed capacity is onl 2740 MWe (all the plants of NPCIL put together).

We are now in the second stage of nuclear power production (Pressurized heavy water). The US has a vested interest in preventing us achieving the next stage (Thorium based plants).

The present deal with US will only help the equipment manufacturers from US as we do not even manufacture STand-by Diesel Generating Sets meant for Nuclear Power Plant (Conforming to IEEE-382 Spec). So every thing is not hunky dory as far as the Nuclear deal is concerned.

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by critic on Jul 05, 2008 01:04 PM  Permalink
"NO LIP SERVICE" What a joke? JK Sir, India has suffered to power shortage due to power theft,by our corrupt practices & lack of will & spirit to do some thing concrete. Water shortages? Will you import that too? You people talk of importing tech. do that, who is stopping but why through US? Any bloody answer please with due respect to all boarders. Regards!

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Americans & Kakodkar pressing for signing the deal again and again
by Ram Sharma on Jul 05, 2008 11:44 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Today there was a news that an American official, part of a delegation from USA, told MMS to sign the deal urgently. USA is pressing us to sign the deal again and again. Kakodkar is also urging to sign the deal again and again. What a coincidence!

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RE:Americans & Kakodkar pressing for signing the deal again and again
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 05, 2008 12:10 PM  Permalink
Even though you do support or oppose deal still it will be signed by government. Individual opinion does not have any importance. Many months have passed to generate the support for this deal.

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RE:RE:Americans & Kakodkar pressing for signing the deal again and again
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 12:57 PM  Permalink
You are another person living in fools paradise! Good luck, Regards!

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RE:Americans & Kakodkar pressing for signing the deal again and again
by ravi prakash on Jul 05, 2008 12:11 PM  Permalink
The representatives of the US are putting the classic "pull" on our Leaders. The Buyer is now chasing the seller-- much like the home buyer chasing the estate agent.
" Hurry up! or else all will lost. There is no certainty what the morrow brings; take it now or lose it for good. Remember, pay your token and reserve your place otherwise there are others and no saying what will happen to you"
Our leaders to have swallowed the bait, there is no escape and no alternative- they say.
All Hail Hon. MMS for his signal contribution!!

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RE:RE:Americans & Kakodkar pressing for signing the deal again and again
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 12:55 PM  Permalink
MMS is a BIG stooge without BRAINS!

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RE:Americans & Kakodkar pressing for signing the deal again and again
by critic on Jul 05, 2008 12:54 PM  Permalink
How much KICKBACK will they get? Will this be another scam? Well we are used to it, whether it is dealing with defense equipment from China or whatsoever.

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Nuclear power deal
by abboral boral on Jul 05, 2008 10:27 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Yes ,absolutely correct .Though at present share of nuclear power in India is 6 % but in near future to avoid disaster by using fossil fuels and global warming by using more co2 ,India will need allmost 60% in 2050 and our own reserves are dpleting day by day and will be minimum in 5 years from now .Considering India.s need for more powers to maintain 10% GDP growth on sustainable basis ,we must sign the deal at the cost of national interest .Our political parties should resist any politics for this national crisis .It is like 1991 when India had only 1 billion doller forign exchange reserves or just 7 days import .It could have been another ethiopia or rwanda ,or any other african countries who is suffering economic crisis at that time but thanks to P.V.Narsimha Rao and Dr Manmohan Singh under a minority gov which even present day congress leaders were also oposed to economic liberisation ( No body in congress remember PVN )supported by great Atal Behari Bajpai and BJP .Where was left at that time .Now see the economic boom of India after 15 years of liberisationn is the.This nuclear popower signature is second economic liberisation and I am sure people will remember after 15 years from now when our every village ,roads ,factories,homes ,great great malls will be illuminated 24 hours .

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RE:Nuclear power deal
by ASHOK on Jul 05, 2008 10:47 AM  Permalink
I suggest W Bengal / Kerala can opt out of Electricity through Nuclear Power route.
Similarly Narora Atomic power station 2x220 MW should be diverted out of UP

Only than Karat & Mayawati people of these states will understand, what fools they are electing to power.





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RE:Nuclear power deal
by Dipak Bose on Jul 05, 2008 12:06 PM  Permalink
Only Tamil Nadu depends on nuclear power. No other states depend on it, as nuclear contributes only 2 percent of total electricity production.


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RE:Nuclear power deal
by ASHOK on Jul 05, 2008 12:14 PM  Permalink
on World wide basis , 16% of the total power generated is through Nuclear Route.
India is nowhere close to that.

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RE:Nuclear power deal
by ravi prakash on Jul 05, 2008 12:15 PM  Permalink
Sir, What about the huge Coal reserves that are on fire and we choose to do nothing about it!!

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Big words
by sg sg on Jul 05, 2008 09:47 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I suggest that the gentleman clear his stand on 123 and India retaining its right to further test without having to pledge its soverignity or IAEA overlooking our shoulders in our existing plants. What we buy from now they can have access to but not we already have. It that so difficult to understand even for a scientist.

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RE:Big words
by ASHOK on Jul 05, 2008 10:31 AM  Permalink
10 years have passed , ever since India did its last nuclear test. Mr Bajpaye (The than PM) annouced a self imposed Moratorium that India will not test any more. >> Now why are you crying.
You want Nuclear fuel / technology or Nuclear Bomb ??

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Kakodkar ji, Indian people is bigger than other things... Deal is anti-India. It is against Indian soveriegnity. History will not forgive who are hardworking to implement. Poverty is the big threat, do something against it.
by Sahadevan KK on Jul 05, 2008 09:22 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Kakodkar ji, Indian people is bigger than other things... Deal is anti-India. It is against Indian soveriegnity. History will not forgive who are hardworking to implement. Poverty is the big threat, do something against it.

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RE:Kakodkar ji, Indian people is bigger than other things... Deal is anti-India. It is against Indian soveriegnity. History will not forgive who are hardworking to implement. Poverty is the big threat, do something against it.
by ASHOK on Jul 05, 2008 10:36 AM  Permalink
When China pledged that it will not test any more , than Deal was not anti China.

Eversince China is constructing Nuclear plants and has assured supplies from Australia.
Why do you want India to pull the plug on Nuclear energy

Commies are big fools , they opposed Computerisation of India / They opposed Mobile phone introduction.
They objected to Oilexploration & Production in India by Private sector.

Just wait , soon 40% of natural Gas supplies in India will come from RELIANCE. (Not ONGC or OIL or GAIL)
Why ONGC FAILED , given all these years.

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