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After SP is baught with money power- can BJP be behind? -Visa for Modi?
by Sameer on Jul 04, 2008 08:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies



I suspect that US would throw a sweetener to BJP as well by giving Visa to Modi. Look at the timing of the demand to give Visa to Modi in USA.

It is in the realm of things. BJP is no different from other parties when it comes to party interest before the country, only the degree is different.

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RE:After SP is baught with money power- can BJP be behind? -Visa for Modi?
by Anup Nair on Jul 04, 2008 10:34 PM  Permalink
I would not be surprised if BJP starts supporting the deal, after modi gets a visa. After all, national interest can take a back seat, if BJP leader is treated well.

How low can BJP get????

Traitors to the Indian interests.

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Top scientists oppose nuclear deal
by Venkata Ramana on Jul 04, 2008 08:31 PM  Permalink 


Top scientists oppose nuclear deal.

Read Rediff article on June 24, 2008.

Put the following in the above URL:

news/2008/jun/24ndeal.htm


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God save
by Mannu on Jul 04, 2008 07:45 PM  Permalink 

Suddenly SP comes in as a Saviour for gov is really a doubtful case. PM has not shared the complete details of the deal with parliament and only sharing with SP and they understand also, what a joke. It's all means that indians can be fooled easily. It's all politics and nothing else. SP knew of Kalam support long back then why suddenly supporting. When will our people will grow ?. Banks increasing interest rate, stock market crashed, inflation all time high, framers dying and gov has only job to lick the foot of Bush. N deal will not generate electricity before 2020 and generated electricity will be costing so huge that poor guys will not be able to afford. Rather than investing 300 billon in N elec, invest in Solar power and other green sources which can come cheap and much powerful sources. Solar enegry investments can create million of jobs in India and N energy will create million of jobs in America. All money by Indians in the form of Foreign Reserves will now go back to America through N deal. God save this country now.

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As per Mulayam Kalam says that India can withdraw from the deal if she wants
by Sameer on Jul 04, 2008 07:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies



False.
Even if India withdraws, the western spies cannot be withdrawn from India's nuclear plants under 'perpetuity clause'.

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RE:RE:RE:As per Mulayam Kalam says that India can withdraw from the deal if she wants
by Venkata Ramana on Jul 04, 2008 08:34 PM  Permalink
Theoretically, India can withdraw.

Practically, it is impossible. 200 billion dollars of investment would go waste.




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RE:As per Mulayam Kalam says that India can withdraw from the deal if she wants
by Reporter on Jul 04, 2008 10:00 PM  Permalink
We understood ur comments. U dont have to write it three times.

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RE:RE:As per Mulayam Kalam says that India can withdraw from the deal if she wants
by Venkata Ramana on Jul 04, 2008 08:33 PM  Permalink
Theoretically, India can withdraw.

Practically, it is impossible. 200 billion dollars of investment would go waste.




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RE:As per Mulayam Kalam says that India can withdraw from the deal if she wants
by Venkata Ramana on Jul 04, 2008 08:33 PM  Permalink

Theoretically, India can withdraw.

Practically, it is impossible. 200 billion dollars of investment would go waste.




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Now that Mulayam has opined on the parmanu urja along with Sonia
by Sameer on Jul 04, 2008 07:36 PM  Permalink 



I think Indians can sleep in peace and they are in safe hands.

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Reminder It is a joke for those who would take it seriously.

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UPA and Left taking all TRP's. Very unfair Political Practices !
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 04, 2008 06:22 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

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It's been happening since last 4 years.

Between UPA and Left, they left no space and margin for NDA, not even for BJP.

George Fernades, NDA convenor has become an rare species. Not to be seen or heard.

During Dr Kalam's tenure, NDA marched every Friday to submit a memorandum as they thought the President was only theirs.

After Dr Kalam's tenure, that also has stopped.

So no more 70mm picture of NDA leaders standing before the Rashtrapati Bhavan. [ Poor Sushma never got the space even in the male dominated NDA picture.]

After awe and shock, Advani's political harakiri in Pakistan, NDA and BJP in particular lost the relevance.

Waiting for that magical september to come when the Govt. would fall as predicted by Astrologers to Bajpayee.

Alas! Stars not in favour.

Havans would not work.

Advani tried all tricks of Bajpayee to create a new avtar. Asked BJP to get close to Muslims and Christians. Even went to Sonia with folded hands. But the magic did not work.

A chance came when the Left hardened their stance.

But poor Advani still not in the picture. All TRP's are taken by UPA, Left and now SP. Nobody gives an inch to Advani !

Where is our new pseudo-secular Advani?

Doing havan? Check the ghee you are using Mr Advani? Can't trust the traders; even if they are hardcore BJP supporters.

Which side are you facing Mr Advani during havan? Sit 11 degree North West of Parliament.

Finding it difficult to assess where the PM chair in the Parliament?

Check Google Map.

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RE:UPA and Left taking all TRP's. Very unfair Political Practices !
by adrgdr on Jul 04, 2008 07:03 PM  Permalink
You forgot long live oops libe lenin !!


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RE:UPA and Left taking all TRP's. Very unfair Political Practices !
by satyarthi on Jul 04, 2008 06:58 PM  Permalink
TRP for all bad reasons.

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Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by Abbas Rescued on Jul 04, 2008 05:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

he talks like a kid on stage maan... he sucks big time... am sure he will ask all of us to repeat 'nuclear deal is good for the country'... ha ha... Country is not kindergarten maan... And am sure Pranoy or burkha or those primetime jokers on CNN IBN / Times Now would add emotional masala to the whole episode depending on which channel he appears.. Grow up guys... Lets mature as a nation...

What did Kalam invent to call him a scientist? He 'worked' as a scientist in an Indian Govt Org and he was not a scientist per se...


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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by adrgdr on Jul 04, 2008 07:05 PM  Permalink
Well you have answered why Kalam was called as a scientist. By the way, by whom were you rescued? a child molesting arab?

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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by TheOneAndOnly on Jul 04, 2008 07:21 PM  Permalink

You Are Absolutely Right!

It is the Same Mulla Mulayam who proposed Kalam's Name for President And Campaigned that Kalam is a Great Person.

Kalam Himself testified in the First Dirubhai Memorial Lecture that he is Just a Systems Integrator Meaning a Manager or Mediator Sitting between Scientists.

He clearly said he was being credited for What he didn't.

LASTLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,

Kalam is a Missile Scientist who sabotaged even Aviation Research and thus our Airplane projects are all moving at a Snail's pace.

He has Nothing to Do with Nuclear Research, Energy and Weapons. Asking His Opinion and Taking it - On Nuclear Matters is infact a Foolishness.

The People to be asked are Unbiased Experts in the Fields of Nuclear Research, Foreign Affairs and most Importantly Defense Experts and Military Experts.


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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by Venkata Ramana on Jul 04, 2008 08:38 PM  Permalink

Top scientists oppose nuclear deal.

Read Rediff article on June 24, 2008.

Put the following in the above URL:

news/2008/jun/24ndeal.htm



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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 04, 2008 07:50 PM  Permalink
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I agree that Dr Kalam has been credited with many things that he should not have been.

He knew how to play well with politicians. People in DRDO will vouch for that.

But he surely has one point in his favour.

He was scientific advisor to the Prime Minister.

So he got global view of India's strategic needs. This enabled him have access to many aspects that a simple nuclear scientist would not know.

Apart from that the way he spent his days in rashtrapati Bhavan, he knows that he has to be honest in his assess as people loved him for that honesty. So he will not play into hands of politicians now, anymore after being the President of India.

So Dr Kalam's view still matters.

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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by Raghu Mangalam on Jul 04, 2008 05:27 PM  Permalink
Oh really, Mr Abbas? What is your qualification to comment on Mr Kalam's qualifications???

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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by Abbas Rescued on Jul 04, 2008 05:49 PM  Permalink
Oh MR. Raghu.... Could you please explain what is wrong with what I have said?

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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by arp on Jul 04, 2008 06:12 PM  Permalink
It will be good news for Anil Ambani and bad for Mukesh Ambani.

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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by Abbas Rescued on Jul 04, 2008 05:44 PM  Permalink
As a citizen I have every right to have my own view and express it in public... Clarify what is wrong with what i have said and I will offer explanation...

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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by sonali on Jul 04, 2008 08:17 PM  Permalink
Mr. Abbas, A donkey can't be judge in horse race competition.

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RE:Kalam to explain? For God's sake dont do that...
by Rishi on Jul 04, 2008 07:03 PM  Permalink
Mr. Abbas This is the main problem with people like you that you only give expliantion and expliantion. Ok Mr. kalam whatever he is Scientist or Govt servant but his work for the country not rejected by any one. But you still say that he is a joker

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N Deal
by Robert Spice on Jul 04, 2008 05:01 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Everybody blaming BJP for N deal problem. Anybody know about goverment has talked with bJP a major opposition party and explain national issues and clarufy doubts and concern. Only PM called Adavani or Vajapayee ji on telephone. Such a national deal whaere whole country will suffer or benefited for years together and no talk with opposition. What UPA o say congress and mandali has done they talked themselves including communist. Form a committee among UPA and supporting parties and held 9 meetings and no conclusion. So far i undrstood BJP never says that they don't deal with america but they have concerns which may be against interest of independence of India and need to be addressed by Government. Since it is a national issue government instead of making political issuecome with full detail and discissed with oppsition NDA and address concern to satisfaction. So for Mulayam is concern till yesterday they were oppssing a deal, some years they were supporting government and mayawati come sinto they change stand and withdraw support and mayawati opposes government they are supporting. So they Samajawadi party has no national interest only political interest.

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RE:N Deal
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 04, 2008 07:27 PM  Permalink
Think about it - Brajech Mishra, national security of NDA govt said deal is in favor of India and does not harm national interest, APJ Kalam says deal is in favor of nation's interest, ISRO chief and BARC chief says deal is in favor. PM had talked to Vajaypayee on phone to alay the BJP in beginning, and Vajayapayee had also not objected to deal. So what is the basis BJP is now opposing just cause it is in opposition!

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RE:N Deal
by Sameer on Jul 04, 2008 07:41 PM  Permalink

I think BJP wants Modi to get US visa and they too will sell India's interests.

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RE:N Deal
by venkata laiah on Jul 04, 2008 07:49 PM  Permalink
BJP is oppsing the nuke deal, just for the sake of opposing.
Common Brahman Jalo party(BJP), Wake up!!!!!!!!!!

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RE:N Deal
by sonali on Jul 04, 2008 08:21 PM  Permalink
Is every body is Brahmin in BJP?
Or you have some virus ?

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What a pathetic joke politics in India has become
by Jai Babu on Jul 04, 2008 04:56 PM  Permalink 

It is all the politics of convenience. Politics does make strange bedfellows. Without exception, all the political parties in India have hit rock bottom with no concrete ideology, morals, scruple or even a iota of ethics left in them! National and regional parties make or break alliances just to protect the financial & political interests of their leaders & family and backers apart from their vote banks! Look at Mulayam who had Kalyan Singh in his cabinet as a minister when Kalyan had deserted the BJP! Or look at Paswan or the DMK who ruled with both the BJP and the Congress! Or Jayalalitha who alternatively alingned with both the BJP and the Congress. Or Mamta of the Trinamool who was with the BJP/NDA and with Congress!!! The commies who at least have an ideology have become stooges and bootlickers of China even at the cost of protecting India's interests. The entire current lot of the dynastic, feudal set needs to be culled. A new revolution is needed. Till then our country can only suffer! CRY my beloved India


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Nuclear deal
by kullandai raj on Jul 04, 2008 04:53 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I hope Mulayam Singh and Amar Singh will help the other leaders to open their eyes and lead the nation towards progress and prosperity.India needs such brave and able leaders with plenty of guts. A.Kullandai Raj

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RE:Nuclear deal
by Sanjay on Jul 04, 2008 06:40 PM  Permalink
Problem is those people who tend to have delusion fantasies, who have no ability to read for themselves what the text says, but wishes some sort of coolie fantasy in which we get some approval by a small little bitty nation of less then 300 million, who greatly dependent on our scientist, engineers, and other technical people for survival.

A country who wish the fantasy of first generation technology wish even of nuclear scientist was against instead they wanted to have a three stage program, of which all three stages have some form started .PHWR, Fast reactor since the 1980's , and 500 MWe breeder under production slated operation 2010, The third stage thorium reactor in which we being the first and only nation to operate a reactor since 1996, which if the government was not so much interested in kickbacks would already been in production. Se First stage maximum power 10,000 MWE, Second stage maximum power 500,000MWE, and the Last can meet all future and current energy needs. So why the sabotage?

Remember this government cut the budget to Nuclear Fuel Complex, Heavy Water Production, and the Thorium plant.

We have plenty of Uranium, coal, Hydro, Solar, wind and other sources of energy. It is just an unwilling government who wishes a deal that does not guarantee one gram of supplies, but guarantees inspection perpetually which makes our country the dumping ground for nuclear waste, and limits our foreign policy and strategic decisions. By putting one Nuclear plant un

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RE:RE:Nuclear deal
by Sanjay on Jul 04, 2008 06:42 PM  Permalink
under inspection we loss that plant for military use. Let Pakistan and China first takes such restrictions.



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RE:Nuclear deal
by Venkata Ramana on Jul 04, 2008 08:39 PM  Permalink

You are right.


Top scientists oppose nuclear deal.

Read Rediff article on June 24, 2008.

Put the following in the above URL:

news/2008/jun/24ndeal.htm



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