RE:UPA & PM like sick & admit in ICU, apeel to face election
by abboral boral on Jul 03, 2008 09:19 PM Permalink
It will be a sadest day in Indian political history that political parties are bent upon to scuttle nuclear power deal with USA where good reserves of uranium available .One way we are talking about globanisation other way our political parties have not been able to make a concensous on the deal .The falacy of the political parties are that people of our country want the deal .It means these anti deal parties are not working for the people of India for further development of our country .The funny thing is that people of India cannot throw them out of politics because of our so called democratic system in which they again vote them to power in the election whether it is fair or unfair .If the deal does not materialised then blame should go to Congress party only beacause in the name of checking communal forces out of power they are sleeping with left parties who never did any developmental or any pro Indian job for the country as per the history of Indian Politics from before or after independence .The glaring example of 30 years misrule in West bengal .Again this is a funny thing for people of India .More over Congress allways thing that apart from UPA parties they never bother to consult BJP and other parties at all and feel BJP and the followers are anti India which constitute more than 60 % population of India This again a falacy that this populations are also in favour of the deal because we all want power for development but the anti deal political parties want power b
RE:UPA & PM like sick & admit in ICU, apeel to face election
by asdfg on Jul 03, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
i fail to understand how come opposing some clauses in the deal are anti national? let us check the development in the states ruled by the so called anti national parties (BJP as per your inclination). Gujarat, Orissa, Rajasthan.... Thus your argument doesn't even hold any face value. grow up and get a grip...
Ex. Predident Dr Kalam previously advocted for thorium based nuclear energy.He is reriuted late for n deal support but we are yet to hearfrom him anything about Hyde act on independent foreign policy of india ,he is only commenting on the need of N energy.
RE:Ex president and N deal
by babu on Jul 03, 2008 08:59 PM Permalink
Indian Scientist need next 50 years of research for making Nuclear plant by using Thorium it is still a dream.
If we will form the government with the support of the parties like communist, RJD,PDP,DMK, then nothing can be predicted which hurts severely the sentiments of indians.
I am in a big setback after knowing that BJP is not supporting N-Deal. Is BJP is doing this only because of opposition party. Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
RE:Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
by rajesh pandey on Jul 03, 2008 08:58 PM Permalink
you should not. just try to read the draft in its present form
RE:Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
by Hemanta on Jul 03, 2008 08:59 PM Permalink
who told you BJP is not supporting the Nuclear deal,it supports from the begining and recently it was made clear by LK Advani that we need only some modification and a debate in parliament then what is wrong with this.
RE:Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
by satyarthi on Jul 03, 2008 08:53 PM Permalink
Never support a political party blindly.
RE:Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
by Kamal Shahani on Jul 03, 2008 08:54 PM Permalink
I am International Relations student and have studied the deal issues in lot more details. This treaty is not something great for the country, so dont get carried away that this is the best thing could happen to our country. It would take at least 15 to 20 years before you could realise some benefits of the treaty. Cost of this is huge to India, both commercially/financially and strategically. We would virtually lose right to conduct nuclear tests. If we do, we would have to virtually pay back to the countries like US out of nose.
RE:Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
by varghese on Jul 03, 2008 09:14 PM Permalink
Kamal ...how naive is ur thoughts..inspite of being an IR student..
The treaty is good for India..as we have no fuel to further run our Nuke program..thats the end without fuel..no one gives fuel without US nod..not even Russia..nor even Australia..nor can China..as it itself buys from the ozzies...
WE need massive tech from the NSG groups to complete our Kamini Thorium based reactors..already its in a very advanced stage,,but will not see day light inspite of 35Yrs of research and development..costing this nation billions of dollars..all due to our not being pally with US.. we neednt buy costly reactors from USA..so much so for ur foolish talk that its going to cost us Billions.. we are getting what we want from NSG..in simple terms hard core tech...even if we spend billions and spend another 30 yrs on our own we cannot build that..so best is to buy it..share it learn from them..then say good bye to them..once we get our Th reactors in place..we do not need any Uranium..we can give back them theirs..
RE:Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
by Govardhan Brown on Jul 03, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
Who are you kidding Varghese? Every day the US establishment, from Rice, to various ambassadors and State Department emissaries have been trying their level best to cajole and pressurise India into signing the deal. What is the big deal in all this? Simple: Contracts, by the tens of billions. They have ripped off Iraq for several hundred billions, running a contractor raj that is full of Republican cronies, including Vice President Dick Cheney's former employers. The irony is that India will be willingly led into this trap by a nominal Prime Minister of India, a man without spine, who has suffered being slapped in public with slippers (metaphorically speaking) for the past 4 year by the communists, and by the likes of Natwar Singh, Arjun Singh, et al.
We have never received a straight answer to a very simple question: Will India, by signing this deal, forefeit the right to test nuclear weapons? If yes, then the deal is not worth it.
Don't even once fool yourself into believing that the US will supply the latest nuclear technology. They will dump their old nuclear reactors and recycled fuel. At exhorbitant prices. And THIS money will go to finance new reactors, new technologies for the US. And then the cycle will begin again after 15-20 years.
Don't believe it? Years ago, when India was receiving aid-tied with ropes from the US- Indian companies were forced to import from the US. Simple generics like aspirin were being supplied at markups of 1000% Socho Varghese, socho
RE:Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
by Mani on Jul 03, 2008 09:03 PM Permalink
You are wrong. Have you seen the full text of the treaty before pretending as a knoledgeable person? You still are a student not an authority on the subject. Stay in school and learn. Kalam is an authority in this subject.
BJP want to get their hands in the money bag; nothing else. They don't care about the future of India. It's no better than any other party in India.
RE:Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
by rajkiran on Jul 03, 2008 08:56 PM Permalink
n-deal doesnt require support in parliament. the govt. to run requires support and its unfair to expect that from bjp.
UPA has all joker constituents. See, RJD full of criminals, BSP no sensible people in it, PDP hand in glove with the terrorist, DMK the athiest party, Commies the china party, SP the mullah party. Congress wants to stick to power at any cost.Wah the congress so called the freedom party!
RE:UPA constituents
by Subramanian V on Jul 03, 2008 09:06 PM Permalink
Agree with your description of UPA. Would have been happier had you extended the same to BJP too. BJP is a party of saints (Best Bakery fame!).
RE:UPA constituents
by Indian Indian on Jul 03, 2008 08:44 PM Permalink
There's a saying a country deserves it's govt. If they are and it's true they are all criminals, but we elected them, they are the face of our society. It reflects how bad is our society...
Chandra babu naidu, by joining with the basically anti-national leftists and the kamsa-yadava mulla-vadi mulayam against the PM's nuclear deal for the country's energy-security independant of the islamic oil/gas of middle-east, has proved to be an unpatriotic self-centred politician. The spirit of his father-in-law NTRama Rao, the founder of the trilinga-deSa {AP: blessed by 3 important siva shrines} party, will curse him for this. The spirits of the founders of the Jana Sangh, including that of Jay Prakash, will also curse Adwani for refusing to offer bi-partisan support for a deal that ensure non-islam-bound energy for india. Vajpai would have acted differently. Bhaarata maata, an amSav of the cosmomom, will punish those who betray national interests, placing selfinterest higher than national interest.
This UNPA thing is another Threat. Next time they are going to screw up the whole equation. With Mulayam at it's helm they will never support BJP. I fear to see Mulayam sitting as PM with 100 seats of UNPA, 50 seats of congress and 80 seats of left. And NDA sitting in opposition with 200 odd seats. When will our India rise ??? During Vajpayee time US newspapers started writing India Competing with US and European Natiosns. We are back competing with Pakistan/ Bangladesh
RE:This UNPA thing is another Threat
by salmankhan on Jul 03, 2008 08:24 PM Permalink
Correct. The President of India should be Chautala. The Ispeeker sould be Chandrababu nidu. The Home Minister sud be Mulyam cing. The Depense minister suld be lalu. Paswan suld be Railway minster. Pilaning Comisan Charman suld be Mayabati. Narayan Rane sud be Pood Minister. Chagan Bujbal sud be helth mantri.
RE:This UNPA thing is another Threat
by Indian Indian on Jul 03, 2008 08:27 PM Permalink
you forgot congress jokers, Manmohan Singh, PC chidambaram, Ramdoss, Mani Shankar Aiyer, Kapil Sibal and Rahuls bhaiyaa, they are all donkeys in Jackal's skin
RE:This UNPA thing is another Threat
by Indian Indian on Jul 03, 2008 08:35 PM Permalink
This Congress led Ulta Pulta Govt. Has screwed up India big time. They have screwed foreign policies, Internal Security, Health, food supplies, and ofcourse inflation, They are complete nonsense..
RE:This UNPA thing is another Threat
by pruodNorth on Jul 03, 2008 08:52 PM Permalink
the day this happen. DMK's supremo word will come true. A fedreal govt will be wak. While states will become powerful. Perhaps , more power to states then. Making each people be responsible for own land
RE:RE:This UNPA thing is another Threat
by anand kallapur on Jul 03, 2008 08:36 PM Permalink
Hold on Dear Indian, The calculation seems wrong at the outset. North and North-East is burning, the entire nation is burdened with inflation/high food prices, the congress chamchas are looting the public with "PREMIUM" Petrol (ordinary is sold as premium), farmers r dying in thousands, no home/water/electricity/roads etc., in this scenario, congies getting 50 seats ?! and left getting 80 ?!! The whole joker bunch of UPA/Left is heading to get at the best 150 seats.
RE:This UNPA thing is another Threat
by anand kallapur on Jul 03, 2008 08:34 PM Permalink
Hold on Dear Indian, The calculation seems wrong at the outset. North and North-East is burning, the entire nation is burdened with inflation/high food prices, the congress chamchas are looting the public with "PREMIUM" Petrol (ordinary is sold as premium), farmers r dying in thousands, no home/water/electricity/roads etc., in this scenario, congies getting 50 seats ?! and left getting 80 ?!! The whole joker bunch of UPA/Left is heading to get at the best 150 seats.
RE:RE:This UNPA thing is another Threat
by Indian Indian on Jul 03, 2008 08:37 PM Permalink
You're right but give and take if the whole UPA manages to get 150, 80-100 from UNPA will get Mulayam to the PM seat..But I'm sure he wouldn't be worse than Manmohan singh. He is a educated nonsense
