Some tough questions need to be asked about the cost of this Nuclear Deal.....
by Vikas Bhatt on Jul 03, 2008 09:51 PM Permalink | Hide replies
If Nuclear Energy is so good then why are advanced nations will Nuclear stocks like USA, Europe, UK, Aus etc not setting up more nuclear energy rectors in last 15 years? Why is USA Nuclear industry in dire straits? Why is oil and fossil fuels still a major source of generated energy? This is because it is the most expensive form of energy to generate. One lak crores of investment needed to run one generating reactor station and yet after signing this deal we will only have operational plants after 10 years producing just 7% of our energy needs at expensive rates which is not enough. Where is the investment going to come from to keep building more reactors and will people afford then energy at rate 30 Rs per unit if one calculates progressive increase in essential prices then? This deal will benefit US economy and thgeir unproductive nuclear companies more. We need to invest more in solar energy as an alternative and that too will need huge amount of money in research.....
RE:Some tough questions need to be asked about the cost of this Nuclear Deal.....
by IndiaForce India on Jul 03, 2008 09:58 PM Permalink
More than that where the fuel wate will be disposed off?This is very serious situation.And compromising India's sovereignity?
The fact that CongI and US are rushing for the deal without any public debate, makes me wonder. We all know that CongI folks don't always have the interest of the country first. If that were the case, there are more burning issues, which they should have tackled.
Shiv Sena follows late Zukfikar Bhuttos policy - Enemy of enemy is a friend. Most of the fundamentalist muslims across the world are against the deal.Hence support from Shiv Sena.On the other hand BJP's stand is highly appropriate.Their only objection is the deal deprives India of any tests after the deal.No Indian would accept this condition. AKC
RE:Nuclear Deal support from Shiv Sena
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
advani has accepted and said they will sign it but if in govt not in opposition
Shiv Sena is also supporting N-Deal then why BJP is not supporting N-Deal. Is BJP is doing this only because of opposition party. Now i feel guilt to support BJP blindly from last 20 years.
RE:Shiv Sena is also supporting N-Deal.
by P Zipk on Jul 03, 2008 09:51 PM Permalink
Don't feel guilty. The Hyde act might come in the way of Indian energy security. The enrgy security is one of the most important national security issues in the 21st century. Once the deal is signed, the first order India will receive from the US is to cut off the relation with Iran. While Iran is no saint, India has to make that decision based on her own interest.
I am very pro-US and very anti-Commies. But knowing the history of the US relationship with other countries, the US will not heisitate to choke India using the Hyde act when it feels India is rubbing against the perceived US interest.
And there is no reason why this deal has to be done in a big hurry. I know Mr.Singh wants to go down in the history as the architect of this deal, but that is good for his personal achievement not necessariy for the country. If we afreaid the new US president might be aginst this deal, then we really should not hurry to get this deal done with the current president.
RE:Shiv Sena is also supporting N-Deal.
by Indian Indian on Jul 03, 2008 09:22 PM Permalink
It is for the Hyde Act. Which restrict India to do Nuclear Tests also the way the deal will work, US can make amendments to it without even notifying Indian govt. There are endless loopholes in the deal, this govt. is rushing on it as they know it cannot be signed and they are just trying to get sympathy votes from people like you who don't know enough about the deal, All they want to do is make an honourable exit from the govt. and make Manmohan Singh a Martyr who would sacrifice his govt. for the good of the country
RE:Shiv Sena is also supporting N-Deal.
by Sudip Bhattacharjee on Jul 03, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
That is nonsense. No one will stop India to detonate a nuclear device. But the more important question is why on what circumstances India will need to detonate a nuclear device? I don't think there will ever be any need for doing so and India will make a Himalayan blunder, possibly the greatest blunder since independence by not accepting the deal. It is ridiculous to reject the deal in the pretext of being able to conduct nuclear tests.
RE:Shiv Sena is also supporting N-Deal.
by Vikas Bhatt on Jul 03, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
India may need to carry nuclear tests to show strength to keep Pakistan at bay as and when required since Pakistan is alway trying out new missiles with nuclear carrying capacity to show us down all the time.
RE:Shiv Sena is also supporting N-Deal.
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
now we can carry a stimulus nuke test we donot need a real one and save a lot of money
RE:Shiv Sena is also supporting N-Deal.
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
Mr advani has said publically they will accept this deal if they will be in goverment
also now no real nuclear test is needed for the development of a nuke warfare in India's case "quote vajpayee and advani last election statement" also america can do changes without informing India but India can reject the changes (after they are made) also they have to syop the changes right then and their but US will have power in that case to suspend further helping India for nuke power
Four years ago when our most hated PM went to Mumbai, he made a statement. We'll make Mumbai Shanghai. And Bal Thakrey made a Statem, does he even know where is Shanghai on the map. If this govt. comes back for another term we'll be looking for Dhaka & Islamabads on the Map
RE:Bal Thakrey said this 4 years ago
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
well by stats most hated PM was vajpayee (approx 2 times as second most hated VP singh) in India as if now and I donot remember when he made this statement
RE:RE:Bal Thakrey said this 4 years ago
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:51 PM Permalink
about second statement I agree with you that is why now I started hating BJP
RE:Bal Thakrey said this 4 years ago
by asdfg on Jul 03, 2008 10:22 PM Permalink
good for you ji hua. but also, will your vote count or will you sitting in the STATES watching the game from the side line? Will you be participating in the decision making. If yes, good for Congress, if no, good for you.... all the best buddy. Critics are ones who never go in teh history books brother... knowledge is power, but applied knowledge is most POWERFUL... so get a grip and stop cribbing..
RE:Bal Thakrey said this 4 years ago
by Vikas Bhatt on Jul 03, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
Vajpayee is the most liked PM in our history and ahead of MMS any day. Fools like you who lick Congress boots will one day forced to accept another pakistan in our midst full of illegal Bangladeshis while we Hindus will be reduced to minority even as more caste based reservations will be introduced so we kill each other. As population increases and jobs decrease these divide and rule policies will create urban naxals where educated people like us will be forced to take weapons to fight for our rights and all this will be becuase of fools like you who buy Congress and UPA ideology of false secularism.....
RE:Bal Thakrey said this 4 years ago
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:51 PM Permalink
votes says every 3 aout of 5 Indians hate vajpayee and 2 out of 5 hate Vp and 1,7 out of 5 hate MMS
RE:RE:Bal Thakrey said this 4 years ago
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
about second statement I agree with you that is why now I started hating BJP
This UNPA thing is another Threat. Next time they are going to screw up the whole equation. With Mulayam at it's helm they will never support BJP. I fear to see Mulayam sitting as PM with 100 seats of UNPA, 50 seats of congress and 80 seats of left. And NDA sitting in opposition with 200 odd seats. When will our India rise ??? During Vajpayee time US newspapers started writing India Competing with US and European Natiosns. We are back competing with Pakistan/ Bangladesh. Manmohan Singh has pushed India 20 years back..
RE:This UNPA thing is another threat
by Indian Indian on Jul 03, 2008 09:18 PM Permalink
In a month or 2 you'll know the truth about the deal than you will be able to decide who was stupid
RE:This UNPA thing is another threat
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:39 PM Permalink
advani has said that they will accept the same deal if they will be in govt
RE:This UNPA thing is another threat
by Vikas Bhatt on Jul 03, 2008 09:50 PM Permalink
If Nuclear Energy is so good then why are advanced nations will Nuclear stocks like USA, Europe, UK, Aus etc not setting up more nuclear energy rectors in last 15 years? Why is USA Nuclear industry in dire straits? Why is oil and fossil fuels still a major source of generated energy? This is because it is the most expensive form of energy to generate. One lak crores of investment needed to run one generating reactor station and yet after signing this deal we will only have operational plants after 10 years producing just 7% of our energy needs at expensive rates which is not enough. Where is the investment going to come from to keep building more reactors and will people afford then energy at rate 30 Rs per unit if one calculates progressive increase in essential prices then? This deal will benefit US economy and thgeir unproductive nuclear companies more.
RE:This UNPA thing is another threat
by JI HUA on Jul 03, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
FYI USA is setting up 30-40 more this year for which construction is over and rest of the things will take approx 6-14 more months Quote Bush and obama
The present govt doesnt even know whether North-East is part of India or not.Chinese are comin into our territory without any difficulty.If such a govt is there thn can u imagine how is it goin to solve a crisis that has erupted due to nuclear deal. A govt and its office bearers which didnt show interest in attendin the state funeral of a Field Marshal,what guarantee does this govt give to an ordinary citizen that the life and property of the citizens as well as its border will be protected at any cost. We are billion strong but a naive nation which doesnt know how to react to issues as well as value human life and national assets. A traffic violator who abuses another fellow driver just for following traffic rules-thats the state of our India and here we are talking of big things like Nuclear deal. If a powerful person is involved in a case Police refuses to write an FIR fearing retribution from higher ups&politicians. Take the media, TimesofIndia wrote a big story about a patient by name Manjunath(he died recently)who was being treated in Safdarjung hospital Times collected money in the name of helpin his family not one penny was given to his family.A paper like TOI does this without any shame or guit and when they were contacted they gave evasive replies like come to our ofice we wil talk abt it means they wil grease my palms When India is drowned with 2 tree height of water and the generation that takes birth after that water receedes,only then will India be saved.
