Most Indians 80 % know nothing of NDeal !UPA parteners and reigional parties will propser in terms of political gains !The BJP is opposing the Ndeal tooth and nail !so does the Communists !where the Communists are strong the the only alternative is congress ! so if congress is to survive the onslaught of antiincumbency it has to to do well in Hindi belt and and southeren states !Tamil Nadu is battle ground DMK or AIADMK !Karnataka congress has lost the elections though gaining more seats than previos elections !Though it won more percentage than BJP ! So there is still hope for Congress there !What combination takes place in karnataka between Congress and JD-S will decide the issuefor victory !Maharashtra NCP has gained ! with many factors such as regional and other leaders such as athawale the equation is yet to balnced !BJP knows that equations r changing in India and they r considered strong in Gujarat !Madhaya pradesh Uma Bharti and Scindhia factors !But other factors such as BSP the equations is changing !Rajhasthan gujjars and jats r emeging assertive !The only tune BJP has is its old Muslim appeasement Rag to woo its vote bank and even in Ndeal their agents r harping on Muslim Rag not on issues !Now Mayawati too has said NDeal is against muslim!Inflation is no issue in India !all is based on caste /communal and regionalism !The poors will not miss their opportunity !corrupt middle class finds itself in the grip of the emerging SC/ST/OBC groups !
RE:Deal or No deal if the UPA survives then it will benefit most parteners of UPA considerably
by satyarthi on Jul 02, 2008 10:19 PM Permalink
@mahabodhi, after raising so many questions pointed at me, you did not return to this board: "Gandhiji's assassination not justifiable: RSS leader".
RE:Deal or No deal if the UPA survives then it will benefit most parteners of UPA considerably
by mahabodhi on Jul 03, 2008 08:11 PM Permalink
@satayrthi I answered to all messages the very day !It is you who did not reply !please see the message board again!If any specific enquiry I am here !
RE:Deal or No deal if the UPA survives then it will benefit most parteners of UPA considerably
by mahabodhi on Jul 03, 2008 08:44 PM Permalink
@satayrthi If the discussion is to continued then please tell me who will ever support killing assassnation of any body leave alone Gandhi! But RSS is making somersault now after more than 60 years of Gandhi's assassination by NRGodse ! As I wrote that considering the facts of that era Gandhi was an enigma !his one son became Muslim !And why Jinnah who as LK Advani clled secular !And who infact was supposed to be nonpracticing muslim and was a promonent congress member!but after Gandhi came to India fron SA and became influential then why did Jinnah suddenly turned away from Congress!He went away to London !In fact muslims did not hv any leader worth even its name in even muslim League that's why Jinnah was called by them to join Muslim league and lead them ! Gandhi did not believe in violence !But he could not stop violence either !And read Mulgaonkar's book on who killed Gandhi ?!NRGodse was alos believer in Gandhi as were most Indians including RSS which came in to in 1925! But who isolated Netaji from Congress even though he was elected democratically !This shows the dictatorial nature of even Gandhi!He forced Nehru as most RSS will say!Or do u still not agree!If Gandhi is to be given credit for freedom then he is also to blamed for partition !also for isolating Netaji from Congress!And also sardar Patel to accept Nehru as leader !As NRGodse say that if Gandhi is called father of nation then Gandhi is also father of PAKISTAN !WhyRSS now trying to be politically correct
RE:RE:Deal or No deal if the UPA survives then it will benefit most parteners of UPA considerably
by mahabodhi on Jul 03, 2008 09:00 PM Permalink
As I said in my mesage I am not political person and I do not dump NRam Godse !He may not inspire you anymore !But he too was inspired by Gandhi but got disillusioned the way India was granted freedom and nation was partitioned !If Gandhi inspires RSS now then they should also accept the legacy of Gandhi that is Nehru !I am sure if Netaji were active in politics when India was granted freedom by British which was farce !Netaji would never hv accepted the terms of freedom imposed by British !Inspite all his rhetorics Gandhi who was conferred Kaise E Hind by British for helping British cause during first world war - his son became muslim!there was something enigmatic about him !He could not understand Netaji !Why!Why he could not even bring together Maharishi Arbindo again in to Freedom struggle!Inspite all his simplicity he was great griend of Birals !And also Jamnalal Bajaj!one has to look into all aspects to understand the enigma of Gandhi! Gandhi has been since independance reverred by Nehru when on his death he said the Light has gone out from our life!His books r all there in all Libraries , sponsored by even Govt. !All curency notes r there with his photgraph! And now even those who did not knew him r well aware of Gandhi name as now Films such Lage Rahi Munnabhai has been hit !Who can oppose him !Even RSS is now afraid of opposing him !and want to be politically correct!itis different when one says that assassination can not be justified !But do u condemn NRam Godse!
RE:RE:RE:Deal or No deal if the UPA survives then it will benefit most parteners of UPA considerably
by mahabodhi on Jul 03, 2008 09:19 PM Permalink
@satayrthi When u write one liner it is diffcult for humble persons to even understan paras at times !so when u writr NRam the tentier one is amazed!For simple reason that most Indians do not know NRam !yes NRam is editor of Hindu but when u write the Rentier the can u give evidence or proof to prove that he arranged the expanses of the said allegged meeting ! And in North most r not aware of Hindu paper !thoughj it is printed now from Gurgaon !It is costly to afford also!And newspaper r these days for ads and matrimonials !I did write that Promod Mahajan used to arrange BJP meetings in five star hotels !Is it not correct !Who was the rentier!And Relaince Communication did gave 3 crores preferrential shares of Reliance Comm. at Rs.1- to Promod Mahajan nominess one being Rahul Mahajan !One can even say that even Gandhi ji was a friend of Birlas and Jamnalal Bajaj !and many more !And pleae note that I am not here to oppose you ! As for incursion by Muslims in India by Mohhamad Bin Kasim the so called Khastriyas failed to retain their kingdom due to their faults !Even Alexendra attacked and was victorius in 326 BC ! But the so called Khastriyas of the suryavanshi and Chandravanshi could not save their kingdom or citizens -praja - and most became their stooges !They aligned with Mughals and then with British !now most r ruling again on various platforms of many political parties ! So they want to retain the so called divine right of rule even now !Whether in BJP or congress!
Everything has to be seen in the prism of pro-Muslim or anti-Muslim and not "in the interest of the Nation". Every successive govt has never made Muslim's to understand that they are living in INDIA and not PAKISTAN. Muslim's must think in National or India's interest and not in their imaginary sectarian or PAKISTANI interest.
RE:Muslim's strange logic
by mahabodhi on Jul 02, 2008 10:18 PM Permalink
@ezra singh what is India's interst !For ever the BJP is playing muslim Rag !that's why it is against the NDeal ! In India except the corrupt middle class no one knows about the NDeal ! who craves for Atomic weapons -communists as they r against this issue on NDeal !Crying hoarse that NDeal with America will force India to abondon the Nuclear Arms devlopment !BJp is confused on this issue !so thrie agents r harping on muslim Rag that communists r against NDeal as it is against Muslims !who said so !Even most muslims 95 5 do not know about NDeal !but come election time and leaders of the communities will decide whom to vote !either for Muslims !where to go to Mayawati and where to vote for SP! NDeal or not in W bengal or Kerala or tripura what ever the out come of NDeal does any muslim bother about it !assam now has proved that it is a enigma for india i the sense that geographical equations are creating havoc with violence !so u hv ULFA and even Bodo ! And Bangladeshi immigrant factor too!Regional parties hv gained all over in their states strongly !so in fact it ultimately boils down to caste/communal equations !So as usual BJP agents r harping on NDeal crying hoarse that NDeal is not being pursued as muslims r against it !All r exposed !BJP is confused !so is coongress !Their battlr ground is MP -Rajhasthan - chattisgarh -Jharkhand !Karnataka !!If poors playntheir card well corrupt middle class will be in firm grip of SC/ST/OBC!A new India is emerging !
RE:brilliant game, madame: deal is purely anti-islamic and 100% pro-christian fundamentalists
by rajesh on Jul 03, 2008 02:35 AM Permalink
ur head is deeply burried in ur As$ that u have lost all ur understanding.india has succeded because of its western partners.gulf countries have only taken indians as labours
The communists (communal fascists in disguise) started it, by calling the deal anti-Muslim. If Muslims fall to this bait, we will call them anti-India....
If the deal fails atleast pass a bill that a gradulate should only contest Indian Elections and not goons who are so polluted by mind.I really hate how CPIM is ruining this country.They are the real blood sucking people if this country.Go ahead with the deal.Atleast for your husband's sake-don't forget how CPIM treated him when he was newly sworn PM.
RE:Soniaji -
by Dharmesh Patel on Jul 02, 2008 08:18 PM Permalink
Ummmm..how could it be dear..after passing such bill, she will be first person who has to leave the office...and has to took her baby as well....
Americans are really smart. They think much ahead than others. Even President Bush who is considered to be 'naive and novice' proved that N deal with India is immensely beneficial to American geo politics. The deal debate in new delhi not only exposed the REDs, it also provided an opportunity to read minds of Indian muslims. Under present dispension, REDs became very powerful. Although they didn't join the government, they kept (rather allowed to keep) veto power. They exercised this veto quite comfortably, over the last four years. Suddenly, a very humble man, who happens to be prime minister of India revolted against REDs interference. In order to counter the pressure, REDs had to reveal that this deal is anti-muslim, so they cannot support it. REDs indulgence in communal politics stand exposed. Deal or no deal, American are happy with this outcome, as REDs stand discredited in the eyes of ordinary hindus. Now a question arises. Why muslims are dead against this 'technology transfer deal'?
RE:N Deal, REDs and muslims in India
by satyarthi on Jul 02, 2008 07:56 PM Permalink
Why muslims are dead against this 'technology transfer deal'? In order to find answer to this question, we have to go back to post partition years. After Gandhiji's murder and death of Sardar Patel, Nehruji became the undisputed leader of congress. Brahmin caste in general galvanised around him, dumping other B leaders. Maulana Abul Kalam Azad became Education Minister and elevated to defacto number two position in Nehruji's cabinet. Under the leadership of the duo, Congress, the ruling party developed a patronising relationship with muslims in India. Overnight, the main antagonistic community became a captive vote bank for ruling parties. Muslims in turn, shocked after impact of partition, developed a new logic for this unquestioned support. First of all, they thought there is no altenative. Secondly, they refused to see the politics behind patronising relationship. Their social leadership convinced them that the 'special care' they are getting from the government is a 'price extracted from the government' for their religious proximities with Arab world. If India needed petroleum, it had to appease muslims even at the cost of rising hindu anger.' With this deal muslims are afraid of losing their 'priviledged political clouts over Goverenment in India.'
RE:N Deal, REDs and muslims in India
by satyarthi on Jul 02, 2008 08:07 PM Permalink
In fact, what was considered to be a master stroke of Sonia Gandhi for selecting a non political man for the post of prime minister proved to be a political disaster, as far as congress is concerned. Dr Singh failed to anticipate the political outcome of this deal in India. Congress is bound to be an overall loser after this deal debate in long run. Smart Americans, exposed the REDs and largest community block in India without committing a single dollar to India. They succeeded in destroying the political equilibrium devised by Nehru and his fellow castemen. India after this debate (not the deal) is entirely a changed and charged nation.
I am shocked to find that people are so communal minded that they link the country's necessity with the religion. I am equally shocked to know that we have elected such members in the highest office of the country. It puts a big question mark on the wisdom of the voters.
