RE:Mushy Bushy bhai bhai
by Confused Mind on Jan 24, 2008 03:54 PM Permalink
Imran Khan and Gary Kasparov should focus on doing what they do best -- Cricket & Chess -- than talking Politics & Democracy -- in Pak & Russia. This will help them and the future generations.
RE:imran
by ammy on Jan 24, 2008 04:04 PM Permalink
Sultan, What stopped Nehru, Gandhi, Ramakrishnan, ambedkar, etc to convert to islam, if they found it so attractive?? Try to see through false praises...You are grown up, aren't you??
RE:RE:RE:imran
by Vasanth Srinivas on Jan 24, 2008 07:07 PM Permalink
Learn the spelling for "beauty" and then comment here. I dont know when all these people - Nehru, Gandhi, Ambedkar, Ramakrishna converted to Islam. History does not have evidence. Wake up from your dream.
RE:imran
by Prince Roy on Jan 24, 2008 03:52 PM Permalink
quoting cupid: no one has seen god , it should not matter to people of other faith whatever they are worshiping animals, stones etc . As long as human life and their rights are respected, no one should mind any religion. BTW, I am not a Hindu.
RE:imran
by Confused Mind on Jan 24, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
Secularism & democracy are the foundations of Hinduism. Caste saved India from dark days by providing some basic purpose in life. Religion is One and should be limited to Human Character and Human Values with One Common Law encouraging people to develop their Body and Mind, Emotions and Intellect, Creativity and Consciousness. The caste is a scientific concept but has been abused and distorted by confused people. It basically means that to live life intelligently we need to effectively balance the 4-forces within - Thinker, Protector, Economist, Worker - and also while governing society. This is all based on natural human intelligence. The roots of the ancient Indian philosophy which goes by the name Hinduism is actually secular, logical and universal. The book clarifies this. The idols symbolize objectives in life: Shiva (freedom), Durga (Strength), Saraswati (Knowledge), Lakshmi (Wealth), Ganesh (Wisdom). Life is God. These Goddesses are not really goddesses per se but symbolize the objectives of the pursuit of human life. All civilized societies in the world practice this in principle as it is the natural and true meaning of 'secularism' and 'humanism' followed by all.
RE:RE:imran
by Srinivas Kasinathan on Jan 24, 2008 06:32 PM Permalink
Very well put. The caste system in Sanatana Dharma was not founded on profession or occupation but actually on the attitude and aptitude of the individual. The behavior more than anything else determined to which group he belonged. Further Sanatana Dharma is a dharma and not a religion. Religion specifies do's and dont's to its followers in daily life. Religion interferes in political, social, financial, and legal aspects of life. It also very much intrudes in scientific arena sometimes to the detriment of its followers. Having said this, it must be noted that religions are based on nyaya or justice. Sanatana Dharma is based on dharma. Now what is nyaya and what is dharma? For nyaya you need anyaya or injustice or acts or intents or thoughts of injustice. In dharma, there is no conflict. Nyaya depends on or is founded upon action or karma; dharma is founded upon naishkarma or nondoing or in other words attitude. Religion is action; dharma is attitude. If one's attitude is right, then all actions are right! No need for any conflict. Figure it out for yourself now.
RE:imran
by Sultan on Jan 24, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
read your books, if not read I will post you. Regarding the religion referred to as `Hinduism', JAWAHARLAL NEHRU said in his "THE DISCOVERY OF INDIA" (Page 37):
"HINDUISM as a faith is vague, amorphous, many sided, all things to all men. It is hardly possible to define it, or indeed to say definitely whether it is a religion or not, in the usual sense of the word. In its present form, and even in the past, it embraces many beliefs and practices, from the highest to the lowest, often opposed to or contradicting each other." Hinduism is better known as Brahmanism, since the word `Hindu' is of Islamicate Persian origin. There were essentially 2 types of faith in ancient India. Firstly, those which accepted the Vedas and superiority of the Brahmin caste (these are referred to as `astika' or orthodox) and consist of 6 schools. These are collectively referred to in ancient inscriptions as `Brahmana', which is rendered as `Brahmanism'. This category includes Vaishnavas, Vedists (`vaidikas'), Vedantists, etc. Then those who opposed casteism and the Vedas; these are referred to as `Sramana' or `nasika' (heretic). This last category includes Buddhists, Jains, Shaivas, Tantrics, Atheists (Carvaks), etc.
RE:imran
by Comment on Jan 24, 2008 03:39 PM Permalink
Dear Hussain
Dont feel bad. Can u answer the following quetions you will get the answer itself. 1) Muslim population is huge in this world, but none the coutry is super power. and India is one of the super power. 2) None the coutry is economically properous and India is going to be world's economic power. 3) US has destryoed countries like Iraq,Afgahanisatan,Pakistan and more. 4) None of your coutry is prospering , there is terrorism everywhere.
RE:RE:imran
by Sultan on Jan 24, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
Suicide Bombs are only in India, pakistan, palistin, iraq. all these are political gains, you know for iraq, Afganistan, & palistan, it Jews accupied palistian land and killing innocent muslims daily, some of them lifted arms against jews but they are called millitants not freedom fighters. same in Iraq & afgahn this has done bu evil bush. apart from that you see UAE, Saudi Arabia, you will not see suiside bombors, egyp . etc etc. muslims are living very peacefully. In India main problem is Kashmir, even majority of people living is muslims. they are also fighting for land.
pakistan & pakis are suffering due to the tribal islamic religion which turns people into barbarians or worse. pak is about to splinter into pieces. hope it happens soon !! hahahahahahaha !!!
RE:paki problem is due to islam
by RR on Jan 24, 2008 02:30 PM Permalink
Instead of having one stupid god for whole religion, and making all people stupid, its better to have more gods. Only few people become stupid and others progress change according to time.
RE:paki problem is due to islam
by annabu on Jan 24, 2008 03:17 PM Permalink
so you peoples make animals etc. etc. as Gods dude chitu & RR. So You r intelligent peoples.
RE:paki problem is due to islam
by ammy on Jan 24, 2008 04:08 PM Permalink
annabu, Whatz the difference between praying to one imaginary God or 600 imaginary Gods?
RE:paki problem is due to islam
by You yourself on Jan 24, 2008 03:30 PM Permalink
Please do not abuse tribals by using it as an adjective. Tribal religions are not evil.
RE:paki problem is due to islam
by ammy on Jan 24, 2008 09:23 PM Permalink
annabu, How do you know there is only one creator?? how do you know you are worshipping that very creator?Have you seen it??
Muslims & muslim country always blame others for their debacle better they should introspect themselves first. The problem is deep in their core itself.
RE:muslims
by Hrushikesh Pimpalgaonkar on Jan 24, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
Dude... Hinduism not about one god Ram or anybody else... Hinduism has always believed that by anyway if you pray god, it will anyway reach god..its something like all roads lead to rome.. the holy city of pope...then u pray allah, ram or christ it doesnot matter..all r the same... this is wht hinduism teaches us. Also, it is not at all a religion.. we r a lifestyle.. we dont differentiate ourself from ny other man...even animals.. all we say is there is god.. some believe its in different forms and some believe it is only one...or some believe it is not there at all... The only thing on which we hindu believe is that 'Live & let others leave'. We donot deny anybody right to live...our only expectation is that they should also not deny our right to live... we wish to live peacefully forever... However if somebody tries to deny us our right to live.. we have complete right to fight back... Don't site Ramayana & all...there are too many flaws and even we know that..some things might be hyped...after all its an epic...what we always try and get is good qualities of Ram.. every body wants to be like him because of his good qualities.. and you talk abt Dravidas killed by Rama..Do you even know that Dravida have their own version of Ramayana?
RE:RE:muslims
by Sultan on Jan 24, 2008 03:57 PM Permalink
in theory it is ok I agree with you, but why your creating image and making your own god with your hands & worshiping.
RE:muslims
by firoz ahmad on Jan 24, 2008 02:35 PM Permalink
I somewhat agree to what hrushikesh is saying. Forget the past, no need to discuss all that. Just follow one thing -"Live and Let live, peacefully"
RE:muslims
by Rajendra Deshpande on Jan 24, 2008 03:00 PM Permalink
Mr.Sultan I am not bothered about Pandit Nehru's version about Hinduiusm. He never understood Hinduism. He was a confused man and unfortunatly first prime minister of India. This womeniser talking about Religion? To understand Religion, one need a pure soul. One can't understand Religion with biased mind set up and hatred feelings about others. Religion certainly above all, it is a way of life, it takes you to know the Bhagawan/God/Allah and for that one should be above these feelings of hatred. Unfortunatly history demostrate that Islam was spread with a sword and not by love which itself is teaching of Islam. There is no fault with Islam, it is problem with the people who want to spread Islam by sword or by killing the people. The amount of venom you experience it in todays life about Islam is not due to its teaching but the attitude of the people who want to spread it by force and by innocent killing. Therefore, change the mindset and try to behave like a humanbeing, it means respect the feelings of others, after that only process of reaching towards allah may be followed. Just by shouting Allah, Insha - Allah, you will never reach upto him/her. Serve the poors, help the people, instead of bashing on each others. Reliagion is not a issue to be faught over Rediff's discussion board, it is a gives the guidance to the person about way of living the life which Allah has given to you.
India is happy that Bush continues to blindly back Mush much to the common Pakistani's anger. This unleashes violence and self-annihilation in that country. The Pakis will do to their own country what India couldnt. Thank you Bush, for starting the process offically.
RE:Bush and Mush
by Sultan on Jan 24, 2008 04:08 PM Permalink
Bush & Cristians want all the countries to follow Western Culture. They know that they are already started coverting hindus to cristinas by spreading their money in colleges and churces in rural areas. Brahmins are more worried about Cristinity than Muslims. because in islam their in no compulsory for accepting islam, the truth will prevail itself. After making round of oil countries Bush will purchase India with our political parties.
