What can India do if Pakistanis ' rent out' their assets to chinese. It is not the first time they did this. In past they have rented out parts of Northern Kashmir to chinese. How about renting out the entire country will save a lot of money and earn some rent in return ?
Thats bad for india!i wonder y this news came so late on rediff its ages old:) The road linkin Gwadar and Karachi is complete running and u can see the snaps in flickr if u want to!beautiful city being built! yep bay of hormuz! energy jugular like kashmir is water jugular for pakistan;) but the city is damn kewl! dubia ports is buildin major part of the new port! a place worth visiting! quiet cool and beautiful! and yep pak-china project!
The commies must now be basking in glory that they have finally been able to get India encircled by China. With such politicians supporting the MMS led Congress government, can there be any further cause for alarm. It is high time that though India continue to engage China both economically and diplomatically, it upgrades its defense capabilities and economy with help of powers which seek to contain China, otherwise several North Indian states may meet the fate of Tibet in the coming years and we shall have only ourselves to blame. Now that China seeks to have the energy pipeline of India by the 'jugular' do our 'sickular' self seeking politicians and the common Indians realise the importance of the Civilian Nuclear energy deal? China may have made it clear to all that no matter how many times MMS goes to Beijing, its relationship with India are never many times more significant than its relationship with tiny Pakistan. But will our ostrich like politicians see the truth or is it the cliche "Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai" that the commies espouse?
RE:What do the commies say
by raj sreedhar on Jan 22, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
You Mother Fu'kn Commies have any comments? I bet they wont. I bet if the country's was USA they would have gone crazy. What this tells you about the N-clear deal. PURE POLITICS. These SOBs should be thrown out of India especially people like Karat. That SOBs son studying in UK. In Kerala Pinarai Vijayan's son studying in UK. They like the Capitalist country's education and products. Commies are the real SOBs.
The Chinese strategy is plain and simple: 1. Took Aksai Chin way back in the previous century from Pakistan Occupied Kashmir and built a road linking the two countries. Now the western China has access to Pakistan. 2) Next has been the Gwadar port development. It is farther out from Karanchi and away from the line of Islamabad - Lahore - Karanchi segment which is very volatile. 3) As the port development builds there is a road to be connecting the port to the Aksai Chin corridor into China. 4) The next in line is an oil pipeline from Gwadar to Chinese hinterland via Aksai chin.
This infrastructure is going to give the Chinese following strategic advantages:
A. Presence in Arabian Sea flanking India. B. Give them access to oil from the Gulf of Hormuz being in proximity. C. They can develop other infrastrucutre in the name of support such as naval dockyard for ship building but allowing presence of Chinese Navy personnel in the vicinity. D. The last develpment can be the passage of the gas from Iran - Pakistan _ India pipeline to Iran - Pakistan - Chine instead and develop an alternate source fro the Iranian gas if India starts somethin down the years. E. With Gwadar the Chinese complete heencirclement of India with their proposed developments in Myanmar..( A pipeline already exists with road infrastructure on the anvil) A port development is bound to follow sooner or later. F. And the last is the the application filed by an Hong Long based Hutchinson
RE:Chinese String of Pearls
by Attatar Yena on Jan 23, 2008 06:26 AM Permalink
What can India do if Pakistanis ' rent out' their assets to chinese. It is not the first time they did this. In past they have rented out parts of Northern Kashmir to chinese. How about renting out the entire country will save a lot of money and earn some rent in return ?
RE:Chinese String of Pearls
by Fazal Curmally on Jan 23, 2008 10:03 AM Permalink
Perhaps what is lacking in the discussion is, the possibility that Pakistan and India don't need to go to war or be enemies. Pakistan has neither rented nor handed over Gwadar to anyone. Gwadar was developed for two reasons. Pakistan needed more ports and secondly, Central Asia needed an access to the sea and Gwadar fitted the bill.
Pakistan is an indepndent country and not rented out to anyone.No one claims India is a Russian stooge because of a predominance of Russian arms in the Indian armed forces arsenal or Russian help in the Missile and space program. Were Pakistan rented out, they would not require a nuclear program. If India has the bomb, then Pakistan has the bomb too. This one fact rules out fighting and concepts of dominating power in the Indian Ocean. With Gwadar, Pakistan has ensured that in case of a conflict its sea lanes will remain open because the Indian navy or any other navy would be spread out too thin to be effective in blockading Pakistan by sea.
Where India should really be looking is the Bay of Bengal because they share it with Myanmar and the Chinese are there physically. Then there is a Maoist insurgency in Nepal where the Maoists will sit in parliament, and Eastern India that borders both China and Myanmar. Can India share the Bay of Bengal with the Chinese and yet assure free access to the Straits of Malaccas to the Americans? That should be the question that needs an answer. Pakistan is not going to fight India because it would mean dest
RE:I think our defence minister is sleeping
by raj sreedhar on Jan 22, 2008 11:20 PM Permalink
Thats why we need a strategic partnership with countries like Austalia,Japan and the US. All all democracies. On the other side a military ruler and Commies. Both attacked India. People and media should ignore Commies statements. They are there to serve the interst of China.
