Idol Worship is a form of associating sanctity with elememts of the world , like in algebra representing untangibles with symbols to make worship and concentration channelised ...
its part of a metaphysical thought process to acknowledge the whole creation to be of, by and for God's ...
so next time any swine muslim (that back-stabbing tribal ilk ) tell hindus about our pagan status, tell them that their mullahs and prophet who sanction rape, suicide bombing in the name of 32 virgins, that its beyond them to understand the sanctity and scientific nature of hinduism, let them live in a tribal culture whose holy book says the earth is flat wih kabba at center!! Our vedas and gita have 1000s of years back spoken about the true speed of light, exact astronomical coordinates of milky way and andromeda, ayurveda, vedic maths and so on ... and let them not quote degenerate forms of hindu literature like manu smriti which was written to serve brahman interests ... these are creation of humans, not the word of the True God like Gita which claims you can be a brahman by karma alone !! the manu smriti does not represent our sanatan dharma - Gita does !! but cant say that Quran with its unambiguous quotes (which make muslims uncomfortable, cant help it) extolling commoditising women, exhorting jihad for 32 virgins, the prophet himself ordering the killing of innocent jews and prisoners-of-war has to be a SATANIC CULT !!you cannot deny the truth by repeating a falsehood 5 time
RE:the essence of IDOL WORSHIP - what islamists never can understand
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 04:05 PM Permalink
Its a historic fact that Prophet Abraham never visited mecca ... muhammed was a liar in telling so as abraham never visited arabia in his life, millions of islamic fools during Hajj every year in blind faith supposedly imitate the actions of abraham (ibrahim) when he never did such a thing ...not to forget the senseless "qurbanis" in which they offer goats and camels, if this is not tribal culture, i wonder what else is .... i can quote umpteen examples to show the falsity of the very essence of your religion ... and all you can do is quote some degenerate social ills of hinduism to counter that? dare refute the very essence of your quran and you will find yourself at loss - but i cant help you for that , its a catch 22 situation which you can get out only if you follow the path of truth - and islam'ss essence is most definitely not that
RE:the essence of IDOL WORSHIP - what islamists never can understand
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 04:38 PM Permalink
READ YOUR HISTRY WELL - YOU WILL KNOW THAT THOSE VERSIONS OF RAMAYANA ARE GROSSLY FALSE ! they claim absurd facts about exact location of ayodhya and so on ... they are not accurate to say the least !!
and here again you are exposed - while i quote exact verses from Quran to show the hollowness of islam, you quote ad-hoc literature commentary to couter it , huh!
RE:the essence of IDOL WORSHIP - what islamists never can understand
by Ahmed Khan on Jan 19, 2008 04:10 PM Permalink
Correct u r numbers, it's not 32. It is 72.
No matter how much the terrorist, no matter how the people in the world try to destroy the religion Islam, It won;t help them. This religion will stay on till the world exist. And i am not surprised whats happening in Pakistan, coz prophet Mohammed SAS said, there will be a time in this world where the Muslims will kill Muslims and they won;t know why they are doing it and this is what happening in places like pakistan, iraq and some other which i guess everybody might be knowing. Pakistan is the country where they don;t know anything about Islam and all are there just only with Muslim names. Islam teaches tolerance, patients, dignity, manners, but i guess over there the teachings are taught opposite and its a punishment from Almighty Allah to that country
RE:Pak
by red lips on Jan 19, 2008 03:49 PM Permalink
I have read and i am still reading Quran. Quran teaches a human being the art of living. If the Pakistanis have read the Quran they would have known the art of living, but i am afraid they haven;t.
RE:Pak
by red lips on Jan 19, 2008 04:08 PM Permalink
Mr Bandu Bondu, there are reasons why man can marry four gals and its not just marry and have sex. There are various authentic reasons which i can give. People always tell this 4 marry things and try to send a bad name. I guess we can sit together with a cup of coffee and talk
RE:Pak
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 04:13 PM Permalink
red lips, for a star explian thses quotes which exhort muslims for jehad ineturn for 32 virgins:
Koran 78:31 As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.
Koran 37:40-48 ...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.
Koran 44:51-55 ...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)
Koran 52:17-20 ...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...
Koran 55:56-57 In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 55:57-58 Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 56:7-40 ...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "
Koran 55:70-77 "In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..
RE:Pak
by red lips on Jan 19, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
Mr.Rahul Some of the verses are wrong, and some you have quoted out of context. Please don;t do that. I too can pull verses from scared scriptures of different religion and post over here which will show hatred. So there is no point for me to do that. It will be ignorant on my part if i do that and i won;t do that also. Differences are always there is every religion, why don;t just follow the resemblance of every religion and live peacefully.
RE:RE:Pak
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 04:23 PM Permalink
please dont make geeralisations like "quoted out of context" to escape the truth ... i dare you to tell me the exact verse and point ut your "correct context" ... else plaese accept the truth for you cant falsify it by hiding behind dubious interpretations
RE:Pak
by Sultan on Jan 19, 2008 04:24 PM Permalink
what is your problem if muslim gets hur in jannath, if you need come to islam. you will also have. do you think that hitler after killing 3 million jews will go to jannath, he escaped from this world, but hereafter he will be put in hell fire. u just read ur books, even it is mentioned in your books.
RE:Pak
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 04:50 PM Permalink
THIS JUST PROVES YOUR ULTIMATE INCENTIVE FOR ISLAM - YOU SEX MANIACS WANT ETERNAL LUST IN LAS VEGAS JANNAT !! did i not say about your tribal mentality
RE:RE:Pak
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
RABID SULTAN: this story of krishna is a childhood prank, and the story goes on to say how he finally left the spot after returning the clothes! remember how the Lord protected Draupadi from dishonor, it was never in his ethos to degrade women ...
but coming to your muhammmed :
how can a person who married his own daughter-in-law, forced his son to give up his wife, had sex with a 9 year old girl, said that quranic revelations come to him when he is in bed with a pre-teenage girl, a sex mainac who kept sex slaves in his harem, promised 32 virgins to people dying for jehad be called a prophet ???????
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by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 04:20 PM Permalink
RABID SULTAN: this story of krishna is a childhood prank, and the story goes on to say how he finally left the spot after returning the clothes! remember how the Lord protected Draupadi from dishonor, it was never in his ethos to degrade women ...
but coming to your muhammmed :
how can a person who married his own daughter-in-law, forced his son to give up his wife, had sex with a 9 year old girl, said that quranic revelations come to him when he is in bed with a pre-teenage girl, a sex mainac who kept sex slaves in his harem, promised 32 virgins to people dying for jehad be called a prophet ??
RE:Pak
by Younus Khan on Jan 19, 2008 04:23 PM Permalink
mohammed said that ummah will be divided into 73 sects and out of that 72 will go to hell which means 99% muslims will go to hell anyways
RE:The ISI used the suicide bombers
by Ayappan on Jan 19, 2008 03:39 PM Permalink
After 50-100 years, only ruins of pakistan will be there for the discovery and national geograhic channels
India has been a land of freedom of thought and tolerance from the very dawn of her history. Conformism of any kind, religious or political, is alien to her genius and culture. As a result different schools of philosophy, forms of government and ways of worship have co-existed in it all through the history. Theistic and atheists, spiritualists, and materialists, Shaivas and Vaishanavas, Buddhists, and Jains have flourished here side by side with full freedom to preach their viewpoints and convert others to their line of thinking and way of worship. Even Charwak, the Indian precursor of Karl Marx, has been accepted as a Rishi in the Indian tradition.
This situation was changed by the advent of Islam in this country. Apart from the fact that it came to India on the wings of foreign invaders one of whose main motivation was spread of Islam in this country, its very character was anti-thesis of Indian thinking and attitude in regard to religion. Unlike the numerous forms of worship and systems of thought that co-existed in India at the time, it stood for a monolithic uniformity and conformism. It had no tolerance for any other form of worship. It not only aimed at converting all the Indian to Islam, on the point of the sword if necessary, but also expected such converts to reject their pre-Islamic past and ancestors. The Muslim invaders looked upon the people of this country as kafirs or heretics. They behaved towards the Hindus in a barbaric manner. They destroyed temples
RE:@ sultan
by Srinivas on Jan 19, 2008 03:38 PM Permalink
and libraries and indulged in most heinous type of vandalism. Their cruelty and harshness towards Indian kafirs knew no bounds. When Mahmud of Ghazni saw the temple of Mathura he was so much wonder struck by their splendor, magnificence and art that he exclaimed that they must have been built not by men but by angels who must have taken centuries to complete them. But his Islamic zeal impelled him to raze them to the ground.
Indians who had been accustomed to wars in which the women, the old, children, the peasants were left untouched and who had never seen temples and other places of worship being desecrated or destroyed like this felt aghast at the conduct of the new invaders. This further explains the notorious declaration of Maulana Mohammed Ali, the President of All-India Congress Committee in 1923 that for him a goonda and an adulterer Muslim was thousand times superior to Mahatma Gandhi.
RE:RE:@ sultan
by Srinivas on Jan 19, 2008 03:41 PM Permalink
The first Muslim invasion of India came from the north-west by the Arabs who were led by Mahommad Bin Qasim. It took place in 711 A.D. and resulted in the conquest of Sind. This first Muslim invasion did not result in a permanent occupation of the country because the Caliphate of Baghdad, by whose order and command the invasion had taken place, was obliged by the middle of 9th century A.D. to withdraw its direct control from this distant province of Sind. Soon after this withdrawal, there began a series of terrible invasions by Muhammad of Ghazni (the idol breaker) in 1001 A.D. Muhammad died in 1030 A.D., but within the short span of 30 years, he invaded India 17 times. He was followed by Mahommed Ghori, who began his career as an invader in 1173. He was killed in 1206. For thirty years Muhammad of Ghazni ravaged India and for thirty years Mahommad Ghori harried the same country in the same way.
Then followed the incursions of the Moghul hordes of Chenghiz Khan. They first came in 1221. They then stayed on the border of India but did not enter it. Twenty years later, they marched on Lahore and sacked it. Of their inroads, the most terrible was under Timur in 1398. Then comes on the scene a new invader in the person of Babar who invaded India in 1526. The invasion of India did not stop with that of Babar. There occurred two more invasions. In 1738 Nadir Shah%u2019s invading host swept over the Punjab like a flooded river %u201Cfurious as the ocean%u201D. He was followed by Ahmad Shah Ab
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by Srinivas on Jan 19, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
These Muslim invasions were not undertaken merely out of lust for loot or conquest, but also to strike a blow at the idolatry and polytheism of Hindus and establishing Islam in India.
Muhammad of Ghazni also looked upon his numerous invasions of India as the waging of a holy war. Al%u2019Utbi, the historian of Muhammad, describing his raids writes:
%u201CHe demolished idol temples and established Islam. He captured %u2026%u2026cities, destroyed the idolaters, and gratifying Muslims. He then returned home and promulgated accounts of the victories obtained for Islam%u2026%u2026..and vowed that every year he would undertake a holy war against Hind.%u201D
(source: Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar Writings and Speeches. Reprint of Pakistan or The Partition of India. Education Department. Government of Maharashtra 1990 Vol. 8. p. 53-66
RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by Sultan on Jan 19, 2008 03:23 PM Permalink
Mr. Rahul Kumar this is for you, quoting out of context without reading full quran is foolish thing u did. but I will expose you truth of your religion. Hindu Brahmins always criticize, condemn and mock other Religions. Most of the most virulent anti-Muslim, anti-Christian and anti-Sikh literature in the world has been, and is being, published by Brahmans. Their criticism and mocking is unreasonable and unacceptable. In fact, they are often blatant lies and falsehoods. In his autobiography, Dr. Charles, an American scholar says that it is very simple to define a Hindu. He says a Hindu means "one who believes anything and everything if said in the name of God and shall never question its authenticity". The Brahmins claim that Lord Rama is incarnated (came in human form) to study and understand the difficulties of mankind. Is it really necessary for a god to incarnate Himself? Can He not understand His creation? Or has his intellect also been destroyed by the Brahmins ? Why should God become a donkey or a cockroach in order to understand the sufferings of these creatures?
LORD RAMA Lord Rama is the central character of the Epic RAMAYANA (whose author was Valmiki). Rama is the son of Dasharath, the king of Banaras. Dasharath had three wives, Kaushaliya, Kaikeyi and Smitra besides several hundred concubines. According to the Ramayana, Rama spent most of his life trying to save his wife Sita from the clutches of Ravan. At the same time Rama was enjoying life to the f
RE:RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by Srinivas Kasinathan on Jan 19, 2008 04:16 PM Permalink
All this spouting of stupidity is okay. Show us ONE SINGLE HINDU SUICIDE BOMBER! One single one dying for the sake of religion! You guys must be sick to justify the bloody mindless violence you perpetrate in the name of Islam. How else can one explain Quran?
RE:RE:RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by Sultan on Jan 19, 2008 03:26 PM Permalink
At the same time Rama was enjoying life to the full at every opportunity. In addition, Rama is responsible for the genocide of Dravidians when he ordered the firing of Lanka which led to thousands of Dravidian men, women and children being burnt alive. HOW RAMA WAS FOOLED BY SUKRIEVAN When "god" Rama was exiled to the forest together with his wife, Sukrievan appeared as a deer and fooled "god" Rama. Although Rama was a "god", he was not able to see through Sukrievan's disguise. 12 YEARS FOR RAMA, BUT ONE DAY TO RAVAN To retrieve his wife from `devil' Ravan, 'god' Rama sought the help of Hanuman, a monkey 'god'. Hanuman agreed to help Rama bring his wife back on condition that 'god' Rama in turn help him (Hanuman) to kill his twin brother prior to undertaking the mission. It took more than twelve years for Hanuman to build a bridge and accomplish the task, while Ravan just took Sita and flew to Sri Lanka in just one day's time. Where is the bridge that Rama built? Who is more powerful- 'God' Rama or devil Ravan? Would a 'god' seek the help of another 'god' to murder a third god? * If Hanuman could fly carrying big mountains, he should have in the first instance carried and flown 'god' Rama to Sri Lanka, which would have resulted in early rescue of Sita. * Who knows what Ravan might have done to Sita during this period of twelve years? Definitely a devil would have done only "devilish" things! Before helping 'god' Rama, Hanuman made Rama sh
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by Sultan on Jan 19, 2008 03:30 PM Permalink
WHAT LEADERS SAY ABOUT GOD RAMA? When such dastardly acts are proven to have been perpetrated by Rama, the Brahmin leaders declare : "My Rama (god Rama) is not the Rama of Ramayana". So each Brahmin has his own Aryan god Rama, which does not exist in any text !
SOME QUOTATIONS ON RAMAYANA %u2022 MAHATHMA GHANDI : "The Ramayana and Mahabaratha are nothing but another Arabian Nights story". %u2022 JAWAHERLAL NEHRU : "Rama is not a god; but he is a hero" %u2022 C. RAJAGOPALACHARI, First Governor General of India & Ex Chief Minister, Tamil Nadu). : "Ramayana is not a divine story; it is only a literature."
RE:RE:RE:RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 03:31 PM Permalink
you stupid sultan: I have quoted exact verses from Quran, do you dare refute them? dashrath did not have hundereds of concubines, they were servants, in islam servants are equivalent to sex-slaves, please do not use your tribal religion's definition for our exalted civilsation ... your own prophet had sex-slaves whom he called "possessions-of-right-hand"
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 03:34 PM Permalink
i am quoting the quran which is suppossed to be god's revelation to your prophet, and in reply to buttress your semi-logic you are talking about comments from pseudo-secularists like nehru !! anyway gandhi on being shot died with the last words :he ram !
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by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 03:41 PM Permalink
RABID SULTAN: DO NOT TRY TO DIVIDE US HINDUA WITH BRAHMIN VS DALIT, ARYAN VS DRAVIDIAN !! dravids also worship lord rama, he did not kill innocent prisoners-of-war like your venomous prophet ... he not only killed innocent jewish tribes but also commanded his followers to take their women as booty ... this is historically documented facts ...
dont give stupid half-logic staatements and make a fool of yourself on public forum ...
plus you say lord ram enjoyed life while sita was kidnapped? moron - how can going to forests to protect his father's commitments be considered living a life of luxury ... you muslims are alien to the concept of self-sacrifice as you only believe in indulgence and hence require appeasement ... abhor you folks!!
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by Sultan on Jan 19, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
rama killed innocent lankans for one ravana with the help of hanuman
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by dharmesh vyas on Jan 20, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
HE TAUGHT ALSO (UNKNOWN) FOREFATHER OF SULTAN HOW TO CLEAN A** AND SAME WAY HE IS CLEANING TILL DATE......
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by Sultan on Jan 19, 2008 03:55 PM Permalink
also quote the beuty of islam please to your hindus. and also quote from your veds kalik avtar, quote krishna told to argun kill your own brothers for going to paradise if you r sastriya. Mr. Rahul this is during the war when maka kafirs broke the agreement with muslims so quran is telling to fight for the truth. you have to read in whole not picking just words. quran also quotes when they require peace take them to safe place.
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by Srinivas Kasinathan on Jan 19, 2008 04:11 PM Permalink
Are you drunk Sultan? Ramayana is a myth. Indian Mythology does not deal in God and philosophy. The mythology is used to explain the Sanatana Dharma. Godlike characteristics are sometimes accorded to certain characters in stories to bring out some drama and excitement in order to keep the listener interest alive. This is what is Ramayana. At no stage did Rama indulge in genocide of Dravidians etc. You must be a bloody recent convert to Islam from DMK. There is no historical evidence to support your stupid statements but there is more than historical evidence of the desecration and destruction done by Ghazi, Timur Lane, Babar, Aurangzeb, Nadir Shah, etc. The list is endless. Each and every single muslim ruler indulged in mindless violence and destruction, rape and pillage, and mayhem for no rhyme or reason other than Islam. Even today all the blood killings that these muslim fanatics indulge in is in the name of Islam. Whether Ravan did anything to Sita or not, certainly there seems to be evidence that muslims have done quite a bit to your grandmothers, mothers, sisters, etc. Otherwise you would not have been born!
RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by Contractor on Jan 19, 2008 03:27 PM Permalink
You again started these things. I hate people like you. There is no difference between the brain-washed Jehadis and people like you.
RE:RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by Sultan on Jan 19, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
Mr. Contractor, MR. Rahul started first not me, I am just replying him for misquoting quran out of context. first tell him to read their books and sanskrit to hindus so that truth will expose.
RE:RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 03:36 PM Permalink
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THE TRUTH ? the satanic creed of quran is irrefutable ... you need to read it with an objective mind ... come out of darkness brother
RE:Inspiration manual for suicide bombers
by RAHUL KUMAR on Jan 19, 2008 03:15 PM Permalink
isn't islam a SATANIC CULT for preaching such hatred? pls spread this message around so that we can expose the essence of islam and its primitive tribal ethos. Anyone reading the Quran objectively cannot help but feel the pulse of its satanic flavor and the perverse and contradictory fetishes of its prophet.
