RE:Bull Hunting--- Guns available and hunters needed in TN
by Bala krishnan on Jan 15, 2008 07:46 AM Permalink
Well..then you are not worried about cruelty to animals?..Isnt that the whole issue is about ??? This is what called as double standards!
RE:Bull Hunting--- Guns available and hunters needed in TN
by Owl on Jan 15, 2008 08:35 AM Permalink
Hundreds & Thousands of goats, cows & birds (pigeon, hen/chicken), fish etc are killed daily for food for human beings. Why doesnt the court do anything about it? If the logic is that these animals are reared for food, the bulls are reared just for this sport.
When someone says it is cruel to the animals, one should also note that nothing is cruel than killing them and eating them for food. Are human being so barbaric that they cannot find their own food without hurting the animals?
How come all of a sudden people started against this sport. I agree that it is very cruel to the animals. But let people first stop butchering these poor animals and eat them. Then they all can talk about the cruelty to them.
They will wait in the line to watch the animals butchered in front of their eyes, skinned and then cut into flesh and take home and eat them. They are not really bothered about the animals, just double standards.
But of course what do you expect Indian Politicians to do.
RE:Stop people eating them first....
by Tim on Jan 15, 2008 07:43 AM Permalink
People write against killing animals for food and immediately the message is reported for abuse. But people talk crap and all sort of languages here and the message gets a lot of responses.
Let us see what the moderator do. I hope he/she is wise enough to see the content and not just be like our politicians.
IF YOU WANT TO STOP CRUELTY TO ANIMALS THEN STOP EATING THEM FIRST......
RE:Stop people eating them first....
by Sanket Gadkari on Jan 15, 2008 09:20 AM Permalink
My dear Tim,
People like you who harp against non-vegetarians are strange. When you are eating vegetables, grown on farmlands and fruits from trees, incidentally who also fall under the criteria of living beings, are you not cutting and harvesting from the living beings ? Is it not cruelty to ampute and eat and relish. Just because these trees suppossedly cannot talk, move or convery feelings its alright to do so ? And if you finally see my point of view, prescribe what should people eat ?
RE:Stop people eating them first....
by Abilash on Jan 15, 2008 09:44 AM Permalink
I dont agree that Eating NV is cruel thing. We are in top of the food chain.. Research shows that ;Plants respond and communicate with each other. By eating greeens are you not killing a living thing
I have seen several Jallikattu when I was young and all I can say is, it is one crazy sport. I understand the emotions when people say it has been practiced for centuries. But thats what our culture is all about - owing to change based on critical judgements. A lot of people talk about the torture of the cows, in addition to that (perhaps more important) is the injuries to the lads going out there. Moreover, they have raised the prize money in recent years and it only serves to drive the madness. I fully support Supreme court ruling and Pongal is not all about Jallikattu. There are other exciting and traditional sports like Poll Climbing, Uriyadi, etc which are practiced in many villages in TN during Pongal.
RE:Jallikattu
by Srinivasan Ashok on Jan 15, 2008 06:48 AM Permalink
Yes, stop everything. Eat Junk food and sit in the home and watch TV that's what do you want?.
I am not sure why you have double standards everywhere. What about the thousand animals which are slaughtered everyday on the name of non-veg food! If you can kill them why not let these folks enjoy what they are doing since centuries. Or killing is better for these animals.... everyone who is non vegetarian has no right to favor these kind of verdicts...
RE:Stop killing animals also
by Max on Jan 15, 2008 08:46 AM Permalink
even plants have lives as was discovered and proved by the Indian scientist JagdishChandra Bose...so if you are so much concerned about taking lives..stop eating vegetarian food too!
RE:Stop killing animals also
by Sanket Gadkari on Jan 15, 2008 09:25 AM Permalink
My dear Sharma, aur thodi sharma kar bol,
People like you who harp against non-vegetarians are strange. When you are eating vegetables, grown on farmlands and fruits from trees, incidentally who also fall under the criteria of living beings, are you not cutting and harvesting from the living beings ? Is it not cruelty to ampute and eat and relish. Just because these trees suppossedly cannot talk, move or convery feelings its alright to do so ? And if you finally see my point of view, prescribe what should people eat ?
RE:Stop killing animals also
by S Kumar on Jan 15, 2008 08:38 AM Permalink
There is not a single word of comment from the supreme court or the so called secularist when it comes to butchering cows by muslims. In jallikattu, the bulls are not killed not tortured. In every jallikattu, people are injured and not the bulls. Then where does the statement "cruelty on animals" come into picture. It is a silly north Indian act, trying to curb the freedom and happiness of south Indians. In north, there is a country sport where bulls drag a cart for 2 miles ad the people on the cart continuously whip the animal. May be in the eyes of north Indians, this is love towards animals. How about horse race where extreme cruelty is shown on horses. The horses are given alcohol and continuously whipped during the race. May be in the eyes of north Indians, these are kindness to animals.
RE:Stop killing animals also
by Pankaj Ramani on Jan 15, 2008 08:50 AM Permalink
Well written , I like it.Eventhough I am a North Indian , I Hate double standards....
RE:tradition ?
by Kamlesh Sharma on Jan 15, 2008 05:32 AM Permalink
people should also be banned from killing animals for non-veg and only already dead animals should be allowed for non-veg
RE:RE:RE:tradition ?
by thiyagu aravind on Jan 15, 2008 07:17 AM Permalink
Then You please stop wearing your Leather shoes as its made from the same living animal's skin.There is no end to this man.
RE:tradition ?
by Reel on Jan 15, 2008 05:11 AM Permalink
IF SPAIN AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES HAVE THE SAME TRADITION, IT IS CLEVERLY DISGUISED AS A RICH CULTURE, AND IF TAMILNADU HAS SOMETHING WITH BULLS......IT IS SUDDENLY NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.....
RE:RE:tradition ?
by sivakumaran subash on Jan 15, 2008 05:16 AM Permalink
Kerala is ignoring because the dam is in Kerala's land. Can you claim ownership of ripe mango in your neighbours' compound? If there is a problem to the dam most of the downstream low lying areas including major part of Ernakulam (economic hub) will be under water. Don't mix Jallikattu and Mullaiperiyar.
RE:tradition ?
by thiyagu aravind on Jan 15, 2008 07:15 AM Permalink
So U meant to say that Supreme court given a verdict without considering Keralite's problem.If u can think that supreme court's rules can be overridden then everybody will have the same rights to do so.
RE:tradition ?
by sivakumaran subash on Jan 15, 2008 10:16 AM Permalink
Thiyagu Aravind, I have the experience of living in Tamil Nadu for more than 26 years and over 8 years now in Kerala. The dam water was agreed to be shared between Kerala and Tamil Nadu. The land was taken on lease by Tamil Nadu for 999 years in 1886 through an agreement between the then Maharaja of State of Travancore and the Madras Presidency. The project was conceived in 1895. Again, a new agreement was signed around 1970 when the old one was about to expire. The lease amount was increased from Rs.5/ to Rs.30 per acre and the Tamil Nadu government was allowed to produce electricity at a price. The whole problem started only in 1979 when the region faced mild tremors. Now, there are also debates on annexing dam areas bordering the state to Tamil Nadu. The State Reorganisation Commission had also suggested including Devikulam and Peermedu areas (dam areas) in the state. Tamil Nadu is concerned because the new amended law empowers Kerala Dam Safety Authority even to decommission dams, if found unsafe. Such an eventuality will affect more than 80000 acres of land that is under irrigation and will be a body blow to the state of Tamil Nadu. It has also opened debates on water policies of both governments, diverting west-flowing rivers (from Kerala to Arabian Sea) towards east (Tamil Nadu) so as to avoid wastage of water, the rationale of allowing privatization and commercialization of water in this water starved era, policies that makes people to pay for every drop of water they
RE:RE:tradition ?
by sivakumaran subash on Jan 15, 2008 10:18 AM Permalink
In this backdrop, the issue involved is the livelihood of millions of people on both sides. Court verdicts and emergency legislations may not solve the real crisis. Water going waste is of no concern for Kerala and the same being used by Tamil Nadu also should not be a problem for them. Increasing agricultural productivity and saving livelihood of lakhs of people in Tamil Nadu, particularly in those dry and rain shadow districts in the region, is very important. Likewise, the safety and security of lakhs of people of Kerala are also equally important. Conflicting views on the stress and strength analysis and technical feasibility of increasing reservoir level of the dam should be thrashed out first. Instead of depending on courts and legislations, negotiations and talks should be the main modus operandi to settle the dispute. Taking over of irrigation subject by the Central Government may not be a real solution in a multi-national, multi-ethnic society. Rather, the central government should play the role of an efficient and effective facilitator to find an amicable solution to the dispute. There is a need for evolving an effective inter-state water dispute redressal mechanism. Any attempt, on both sides, to incite passions of regional chauvinism should be condemned in unequivocal terms. But, unfortunately political parties in both states are inclined mainly to incite passions rather than finding an amicable and workable solution to the dispute. The ruling party in Kerala is b
RE:RE:tradition ?
by Albert Adibadla on Jan 15, 2008 07:35 AM Permalink
Kerala will do what they think they should do... Let Tamils do what they want....
this is were the education matters a lot. just making rules and asking people to follow it will never give any solution. we need to educate them. i have been to those places were jallikattu happens and wat drives the guys is craziness. somebody will shout "if you are man go and catch that", and these guys will go and stand before the bull. the very problem here is nobody knows the value of their life.
RE:education
by Srinivas P.R on Jan 15, 2008 04:40 AM Permalink
then why are u bothered if they themselves are not worried about their life. Its their life and their business. They are not asking you to be part of that right?
RE:RE:education
by dive on Jan 15, 2008 04:46 AM Permalink
it is not they are not worried about their life, it is that they dont realize. i can understand that it their business, but u need to see how many become handicapped because of this. may be we can create a different game using bulls, which are less harmful, not risking their life.
RE:education
by ashish sinha on Jan 15, 2008 04:56 AM Permalink
yeah.. so it seems to me that there is nothing like festival or ritual.. its all the ego of young boys... may be they just wanna go after bulls to impress the girls in the crowd.
RE:education
by senthil kumar on Jan 15, 2008 08:32 AM Permalink
hei fool ashish (i think u r the same cab driver from who also go against indians)...if u idi*t do everythn for the sake of lusting girls, do it idi*t...its a common villagers festival nd they dont have a lust mind like you..got it!!!
