RE:Long Live LTTE
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
The oppressors are the LTTE. They have destroyed the Tamil community by using child soldiers, pregnant suicide bombers and conscripting the next generation of Tamils for use as cannon fodder. Most of the Tamils in Sri Lanka live among the Sinhalese. Colombo is a majority Tamil speaking city. BTW Shiva is also worshipped by the Sinhalese so is Murugan.
RE:Long Live LTTE
by Dravidian on Jan 12, 2008 12:10 PM Permalink
Please check your history. The reason for the rise of LTTE is that Tamils were oppressed, denied opportunities and treated as second class citizens. Better to use child soldiers than to doom an entire population for ever. The Sinhalese are Buddhists. Why would Buddhists worship Lord Shiva?
RE:Long Live LTTE
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:18 PM Permalink
The reason for the rise of the LTTE was the behaviour of Tamil politicians. The Tamils who were only 12.6% of the population in Sri Lanka dominated ALL the spheres under the British who did their "divide and rule" policy. It was an apartheid state where Tamils enjoyed all the plum positions. When indpendence came the power was REDISTRIBUTED. Tamil leaders screamed "discrimination" to win elections and pushed the Tamils to violence at the Vaddukoddai Declaration. The Sinhalese follow both Buddhism and Christianity. Buddhists in Sri Lanka worship Hindu gods and godesses. All Buddhist temples have statues of Hindu gods in them and Hindu temples have a lot of Buddhist patrons. The religion followed by Buddhist Sri Lankans should more correctly be called Hindu-Buddhism. Please learn more about Sri Lanka, preferably not from Tamil propagandists.
RE:Long Live LTTE
by swaroop tagore on Jan 12, 2008 12:13 PM Permalink
sri lankan army gang rapes tamil women, kills babies,maimes all men so how does the ltte retaliate we need suicide tactics.how did vanchi nathan kill collector ashe? was it not an ambush tecnic? wee will fight repression in lanka till the last tamilian lives ther.
RE:RE:Long Live LTTE
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:20 PM Permalink
Allegations against the SL army are the same allegations levelled against the Indian army in Kashmir and the IPKF in Sri Lanka. It is merely propaganda that exists in any war situation. If you want to fight repression in Lanka, then you must fight against the LTTE which has ethnically cleansed all the areas it controls of all non-Tamils.
RE:REFLECT 2
by natraj tanjore on Jan 12, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
The issue is that the tamils were the aborigines of sri lanka much much before the sinhalese came over! Please get your facts and history clear before opening your mouth and proving beyond doubt the depth of your intelligence! Tamilnadu, apart from Gujarat is the only state where the outsiders can settle eaily without any son of soil jingoism and prosper! Proof Nalli, vummidi, the marwari and gujarati, telugu business community, who have grown in size over the years! Also this is one state where there have been Chief Minister of non tamil origin - MGR, Jayalalitha! The kollywood is swamped with non tamilians! So my dear get your facts straight and dont behave like a disgruntled golti!
RE:RE:REFLECT 2
by MANOJ RATNAK on Jan 12, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
Sinhalese king Walagamba brought 5000 tamil slaves in history to srilanka .. and for this r u calling aborigines.. u cun-
RE:REFLECT 2
by buddys buddy on Jan 12, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
I hope you have strong Mentality against Tamils.. which is not safe and you dont have any right to speak about national integration because of that. You have given big bull shit lectures without knowing about the real situations there in SL. And everybody will understand your knowlege by seeing your mail.
I dont know why you had included punjab maharashtra etc.. etc.. which is In India.
Indian Tamils and SL Tamils are different. You didnt understand the basic difference. Only similarity is Both Speak Tamil. You had pushed down by fear by seeing these stories that oneday Tamil from Tamilnadu will come and sit in your state and ask for Seperate state or country for themselves. And for that you had taken the support of readers belonging to other states also by listing them on your mail.
First of all grow up. No one can take away your rights from you. Think as an Indian. Then speak about National Integration. Dont express your meaningless and stupid comments if you are not sure about what is happening around. Sorry for that.
RE:REFLECT 2
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:06 PM Permalink
I'm sorry, but could you please explain yourself further? I cannot understand what you're trying to say.
RE:REFLECT 2
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 12, 2008 12:19 PM Permalink
Yes in the Tamils are not 12.6$ the native Sri Lankan Tamils are 12.6% Tamil sof recent Indian origin are another 5.6% and the Tamil speaking Muslims are around another 7 to 8%. The total Tamil soeaking population is around 25%. It was around 35% at the time of independence.However this has reduced and is rducing becouse of the genocidal and racist p0licies that were coarried out by every Sri Lankan government since independence. The descendants of many people who were Tamil and proudly identified themsleves as Tamils have now been forcibly assimilated as Sinhalas. You can still go to areas immediatley North of Colombo in the Negombo Chilaw and Puttlam distircts and witness this. The Grand parents only speaking Tamil and calling them selves Tamils.The Bilingual children wo state that their Sinhlas but when you question further they sheepishly admit their Tamil orgins but stae that they have to now identify themselves as Sinhalas. Thenm come the grand children who only speak Sinhala and are very Sinhalaand take great pains to hide their Tamil ancestory. The North and East Sri lalnka have so far proudly reamained Tamil. Aroudn a milion native Srilankan Tamils hailing from the North and East have left teh county due to these racist policies and are mostly living in the west. Yo dont find Sinhla refugees. 60% of the Srilankan coastline is in the NOrht and East this is 30% of the land area. This has always been Tamil land for thousnads or years ruled by the Tamils.
RE:RE:REFLECT 2
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 12, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
The Sinhalas nevr had any peep in these areas lat alone to say bhoo. Yo can check the population statistics of these areas . The native Tamils are still aroudn 95% of the population in the NOrth. TheNative Tamils wree around 70% of the population in the East and teh Tami lMuslims were around 29% . The Sinhlas were less than 1% up the early mid 60s. Now due to arege scale ethnic cleansing they around 33% and are increasing/ President Rajapkse soon wants the East to be a SInhla majority proivince. You stae that you are of mixed origin I presume that you are Tamil /Sinhla mix however your statement themsleves show what I sted is correc t you are so anti Tamil and very pro Sinhala as you feel this w is what wil be favourable to you . Like th eSri alnkan government you tell a lot of half truths or omiit a lot so people here will get the incorrect fact and impression
RE:REFLECT 2
by MANOJ RATNAK on Jan 12, 2008 12:18 PM Permalink
Dear north indian , you are true indian !!! great voice..you r right tamils have problem with integration. if you sit in dining table with others u should not make chuck chuck noise like most tamilians do .. they just came out of jungles
RE:REFLECT 2
by swaroop tagore on Jan 12, 2008 12:28 PM Permalink
what did the sri lankan government do? please speak out facts. when did it recognise tamil as an official language along with shinala? only when terrorism surfaced.the sri lankan government resorted ethnic cleansing thru the veli oya project.telugu is spoken by more than 10% in tamil nadu and thats why the government of free india introduced the states reorganization act of 1956 to carve out the separate state of andhra pradesh from the erstwhile madras presidency, your views expressed are very myopic about the tamils in lanka. then why did the govrnment not grant citizenship to tamils of indian origin? why was shinala forced on tamils? even after recognizing tamil as an official language? please dont talk about us tamilians in tamil nadu integrating with india then how did abdul kalam become the president of india? if you allow tamilians to integrate why your island nation has never had tamil president or tamil prime minister? have you allowed tamils to integrate? your budddhist monks cannot accept hinduism,so you want to wipe out the ethnic community. you are of a mixed race and therefore you can never be pragmatic of the difficulties of tamils in your land.UF YOU WANT TO INFLICT FORCE TO INTEGRATE TAMILIANS YOU CANNNEVER DO THAT TAMILS IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD HAVE A DIFFERENT IDENTITY.HAS THE LTTE RAPED SHINALA WOMEN? HAS IT SURFACED JUST AS THE WAY ATROCITIES BEING PERPETRATED BY SHINALA FORCES ON TAMIL WOMEN? PLEASE RESPOND.
RE:REFLECT
by Freedom on Jan 12, 2008 12:12 PM Permalink
So you have read textbooks of 'India States' and we accept it.
Even the term Sinhala is not of sinhalese. Sinhala was tamil kingdom like chera, chola, pandiya or pallava. Ramayan/other Indian text have clear reference to it. The basic sinhala cult is from polynesia and after occuping the south-western coastline, these aliens later occupied the inland southern and central territory along with its 'identity' and people.
Futhur driving inside, the Certal Ellala Tamil kingdom was occupied by socalled sinhalese. The western was during British and the eastern region is under process of occupation by illegal sinhala settlements.
The sinhala in recent past not only harassed Tamils but Malayalis (mapillas, nairs etc) and Telugus (kamavas/naidus) whom were in laks came in during wartime or for business. Even today the significant Telugus/Malayalis enjoy freedom in eelam forces controlled territories whereas in sinhala controlled more or less have been 'converted' as sinhalas. Those whom objected this conversion had to leave the island fearing harassments.
Now tell will any people allow occupation to this extent and Tami Homeland has been occupied by alien cult here in Elangai.
RE:REFLECT
by natraj tanjore on Jan 12, 2008 12:19 PM Permalink
Get your facts straight buddy, the tamils were the original inhabitants of the srilankan land, which was any way part of India. You guys came much later and it is said that your ancestors had accompanied lord hanuman!
RE:RE:REFLECT
by Rajeev on Jan 12, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
Mr. natraj, where did you read all this wrong info. 1st you correct your History knowledge then talk. Now even America rejected the Aryan's invasion theory and started teaching in school that Aryans were the original inhabitants of india.
The1st Famous Ramayan after balmiki is Tamil only. It is the people like you who do not read the scriptures propely misleading the fact and trying to divide the Indian like English.
Talk about the RamanujaCharya (Gajat guru from Tamil nadu). Just read his philosophy do read the book written by the person like Karunanidhi.
RE:REFLECT
by Mr INNOCENT on Jan 12, 2008 12:06 PM Permalink
How u feel about India intruding into Kashmir, and suppressing them with shear brute force comprsing of 8 lac troops armoured with AFSPA (Armed Forces Special Powers Act), according to which they kill any Kashmiri civilian on mere suspicion, arrest & harass them, crackdown the localties, rape plus various other human rights violations unleashed on them. This is really a sorry state of affairs that Indian media is projecting self cooked stories to its people, hiding th ugly face of Indian "democracy".
RE:RE:REFLECT
by swaroop tagore on Jan 12, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
Kashmir is the greatest consitutional fraud committed by india on kashmiris the people of kashmir have the right for self determination which is deprived by india till date.india can conduct general elections in kashmir but can never have the guts to conduct a referendum becos india strategically can never afford to lose kashmir this is the truth. if the nation is so democratic let them leave the fate of kashmir to the kashmiris this was raja hari singh's views.
RE:RE:REFLECT
by Rajeev on Jan 12, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
This is the problem with the Tamil like you Mr INNOCENT (not all Tamilials). You are also talking like pakistani muslims. Tamilnadu is a good state it has been leader in many areas. It has real good talent & people but just b'z of people like you TN is not developing as much as Andhra & Karnataka.
Why don't you think as a Indian, being a Indian how can you question the bravery of our armed forces. Remember b'z of the Indian armed forces you and I are able to speak freely otherwise Indian (either Tamilian or Northindian or kannadiga) would have been working under Chinese or pakistani.
RE:REFLECT
by senthil on Jan 12, 2008 12:37 PM Permalink
First of all,, In today's world no one can claim that it is Singhala state or Tamil state or Kannada state or Andhra state and it belongs to only the respective people.
In the modern world where there are lot people's movement, a country or state is place where all types(regardless or country , state, religion or language) of people live together.
My dear SL friend, Let us assume the following case.
let us say 50,000 Telugu speaking people born and brought up and live in Tamilnadu.
let us say 50,00 kannada speaking people born and brought up and live in Tamilnadu.
let us say 50,000 malayalam speaking people born and brought up and live in Tamilnadu .
let us say 50,000 Oriya speaking people born and brought up and live in Tamilnadu. Now What if Tamilnadu govt and tamils discriminate Telugu people , kannada people, malayalam people, oriyaa people and refuse their legitimate rights( Discrimination in schools, university, jobs, opening a business etc).
What would these people do against tamils and tamilnadu?.
if you can answer this question, you would know actual problem.
Finally i suggest the federal-state arrangement in Sri Lanka. I hope this arrangement will solve the problem rather giving a separate country.
States should have more control but still be controlled by Fed govt.
RE:India & Srilanka
by on Jan 12, 2008 11:59 AM Permalink
Why are you calling North Indians "stupid"? You are an Indian Tamil aren't you? I am Sri Lankan and you sound a lot like some Sri Lankan Tamils who call the Sinhalese "stupid." Please learn to integrate with other Indians, this is my plea to Sri Lankan Tamils as well, please learn to integrate with other Sri Lankans. The Kashmir situation is different from the Sri Lanka situation. India is not claiming any part of Sri Lanka while Pakistan which is claiming part of India.
RE:India & Srilanka
by Rajeev on Jan 12, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
the 1st thing a Tamil like you (not all Tamilians) do is just blindly hate North Indians. This is the reason why Karnataka, Andhra is developing more compared to Tamilnadu. Tamilnadu has real talent, good culture but b'z of the bad politics and people like you its going behind other state.
RE:India & Srilanka
by aa on Jan 12, 2008 12:11 PM Permalink
u r 100% right rajeev....nobody from these states says that he is south indian...but wherever madrasis feel alone then they treat theirself as south indian.....but they r srilankan
RE:India & Srilanka
by drug on Jan 12, 2008 12:07 PM Permalink
don't worry my friend, next is mukerjee only?? But it's a waste of time & bomb for such a old man.. One phone call from LTTE cadre is enough!!
RE:hope it works well
by Satheesh on Jan 12, 2008 11:55 AM Permalink
LTTE is no christian organization... you belong to the brand of writers in this forum who try to tie religion to every single point being discussed...shame on you, you bigot
RE:hope it works well
by truthandonlytruth on Jan 12, 2008 12:31 PM Permalink
LTTE is a tamil organization! some say!! Is it really tamil? No.. It is the org of people whose mother tongue is tamil and not all. Is it really so? No... It is the org of people whose language should not include traces of Pan Aryan languages. Is it really so? No... It is the org of people who are against anything which is not tamil. Is it really so? No... It is the org of people who are dead against anything which does not have tamil, who should have no tolerance to anything which is not tamil, who should have the guts to kill everyone other than its own people. CLear!! LTTE is one such ORG. Its not too far from now when nobody knows anything about LTTE and its machinations... LTTE IS ALREADY DYING ITS NATURAL DEATH. [ That which has a beginning has an end ]
RE:hope it works well
by maria on Jan 12, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
You half boil, you learned your english through convent which rund christians, and your mother gave birth to you and sibling in Christian Hospital only and all your neighbours wanted to go earn abroad, that is also christian country. Mind your words, do not drag christian to this issue, Chidambaram is a tamilian, Raja is a Tamilan and Anbumani Ramadoss is a Tamilian and Sonia is Christian. Shut your holes propoerly.
India is just a combination and the union of Lot of cultural and social differences, still we have a setup of a Nation and obeying the laws of the Government, The srilankan issue is a long term social issue between the Sinhalese and Tamils living in srilanka, whereas the minority tamils have participated in the development of thier own land, and they are still beleiving thats thier home land, They are fighting for thier own rights in thier own country, like the assamese and kasmiri's fighting for thier own rights in our country, we have lot of issues and complications to solve here....we should not give neither the support to the srilankan government nor against. History says always the srilankan government is against Indian movements as Srilanka is the army base for the American Facist government, Let Dr.Manmohan solve the problems in his own land like Kashmir, Assam, West Bengal and others. Then let him go to Srilanka and solve their issues.
Till then why we have to break our head for these kind of unwanted issues.
RE:India & Srilanka.
by on Jan 12, 2008 12:00 PM Permalink
I think your plea should also go to the LTTE supporting outfits in Tamil Nadu. They are the ones who always make a big ruckus about the Sri Lankan situation and pressure the Indian government.
