By asking Israel to vacate Arab land, Bush has talked of justice. In the same way, he must urge Pakistan to vacate Kashmir, so that there is permanent peace in South Asia
RE:Bush must be commended
by ammy on Jan 11, 2008 05:50 PM Permalink
What is Arab land? Did you mean, Arab occupied land? Well, than how is it a justice to ask one occupier to vacant the land and leave out the other?
As mentioned by my friend earlier that all the powerful countries of the world should come together to ensure a safer & more secure world order is restored in todays world of chaos & terror. Terrorism should be eradicated by swift yet daring strikes (Something we Indians can learn from Israelis). Terrorism should be curbed by brutal violence against anyone who supports it in any form whatsoever. A complete crushing of the economical, political & militaristic wings of these islamic outfits will result in complete victory. But along with it one must curb corruption & institute a professional & civil beauracracy which will ensure a smooth functioning of state despite any challenges. Today's corruption is disgusting & puts a country such as ours with much potential to a high disadvantage. What we need is a political revolution not bloody or violent but which will shake the country's corruption base & bring in an era of justice & stability free from all forms of communal hatred or political BS.
If there are no external forces involved like......Iran, Syria,etc. the children can eat in the same plates,sleep in the same bed ,go to the same school,play soccer together,etc....provided no terror outfits are involved .
History reveals that Israelis were chased out of their land and were scattered all around the world ,it was in 1948 they established their state,and started reuniting ; how did Hitler get to kill 6 million jews ? how did the jews get there ? there were driven out ,you cannot go by the borders marked by the UN in 1967....who is the UN anyway ? if you go back thousands of years it was only the jews who owned the land. get your history right folks !!!
RE:Israel was born before anyother country in the middle east.......
by sudhir kumar on Jan 11, 2008 12:13 PM Permalink
You are right Hinduism and Judism are the oldest religion on this earth and Israelis and India are the oldest countries.And of course history of thousands of years must be taken into account to make any decision, this will bring peace to world.
RE:Israel was born before anyother country in the middle east.......
by ammy on Jan 11, 2008 05:51 PM Permalink
Exactly, Jews were in majority in medina...Untill Mohammad stepped there and drove them out
The alliance of US-ISRAEL-UK-INDIA-RUSSIA should be the approach for a powerful new alliance.Only then Islamic or any form of terrorism can be countered. These countries should put their differences aside and pave wave for fresh talks and arrangements. Only then jerk countries like Pak,Iraq,Afganistan can be marginalised and loss to other nation be reduced.
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by sami on Jan 10, 2008 04:35 PM Permalink
All the countries mentioned in your nexus except india , are the countries with most blood on their hands - US responsible for hiroshima & nagasaki where lakhs died & the effects are felt it today , israel has snatched the palestinians land & have killed lakhs of them , UK has bestowed untold miseries on the people of india during the Raj , russia has killed thousands of people in afghanistan & is killing many more in chechnaya right now - what is there to marginalise in iraq & afghanistan - america has already marginilsed it & with a little bit of cunning they will marginilise pakistan , India should remain neutral & be far from all these countries.
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by Jags on Jan 10, 2008 04:54 PM Permalink
Sami, there is no neutral ground anymore. The Islamo-fascist outfits have managed to create that divide. All said and done, the reality is that it is now the world against terrorism(No matter what other label you give it). You think only bombs dropped from Jet-fighters, or bullets shot from machine guns by army men in fatigues is the indication of war. No my friend....bombs being set off in parks, trade-centers attacked by commuter planes, Subway trains blown up by suicide bombers...they all are indications of war. These soldiers are actively funded and trained by the above outfits who do not have the funds nor the guts to fight a conventional war, but still want to conquer the world.
RE:RE:Sign Of a New world order
by Insearch insearch on Jan 10, 2008 04:57 PM Permalink
Nuetral ground is the best option is an agreed notion but the problem is that it is only a notion.India's neutrality has cost us everywhere. Its either dominate or get dominated..
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by timothy dsouza on Jan 10, 2008 04:42 PM Permalink
May I clarify that when Israel was formed in 1948 there was no country called Palestine. Please be clear Israel has not snatched Palestinian land but the Islamic countries are forcibly trying and helping palestine to occupy Israel.
RE:RE:Sign Of a New world order
by shaji tabor on Jan 10, 2008 05:10 PM Permalink
If you say Palestine is of Israel,rather than of muslims,you must convert back to Hinduism since all your forefathers were Hindus
RE:RE:RE:Sign Of a New world order
by Ajith Kumar on Jan 10, 2008 04:54 PM Permalink
Mr. How would you feel if I use local thugs from your area, occupy your home, throw you out and then enjoy the cake. This is what happened in palestine.
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by Tera Baap on Jan 10, 2008 05:31 PM Permalink
Before Israel was created where this jews were staying.Jews where driven out of palestine not by christians or muslims but by Romans,Jews are the one of the dirtiest people in this world with dirtiest mentality.Highly racial who consideres all other people as dirt.
All the islamic extremism started after Israel was formed and got intesified after the agression of Afganisthan by Russia.
RE:RE:Sign Of a New world order
by shaji tabor on Jan 10, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
If you say Palestine is of Israel,rather than of muslims,you must convert back to Hinduism since all your forefathers were Hindus
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by rashmi sahu on Jan 10, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
As far what i have understood is Earlier demography of middle east prior to advent of Islam was that all the population was following Jewish religion.Then came christ and islam.All jews were forcibly converted in to islam by mohd Paigambar, some by christs teacing etc. So there original land which belonged to them was snatched.Post Iind world war they had taken there placed which ancestrally belonged to them, prior advent of Islam.Regarding the past of arabia articles on arcaheologyonline.net will throw light in view of latest archaeological findings. You can read that and broaden horizon.
America works for its own interest and majority of whites just believe in skin colour.The problem of terrorism in the world of islam is due to wahabi and salafi sect funded by Saudi arabia. Further Quran does have some verses of kafir, disbeliver esp hadiths but the time has come to forget those verses hating others who are of different religion and follow the formless God which existed since one Arab 96 crore 8 lakhs 53 thousands & 2 years. Because there is only one God no other God.
We all should introspect our follies committed in the past on the name of God and look forward for our peceful coexistenxe and bright future
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by Ajith Kumar on Jan 10, 2008 05:36 PM Permalink
All I was trying to say was, there is no meaning repeating the bad part of history and intensify the hatred that has already creeped in.
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by Insearch insearch on Jan 10, 2008 05:03 PM Permalink
Its a noble thought Rashmi and your argument about the amerrican approach is also pin-point accurate.However to bring in sanity around the world there has to be a clear approach...either a mild one or an aggressive one.Not preaching an alliance to dominate politically, but if there is a need then policing is necessary as we have tried passifying ppl to behave which has not worked so probably an aggressive approach would be necessary to restore peace at the world level. However your insight the religious aspect on Islam and Christianity is noteworthy and knowledgeable..
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by abhijeet manay on Jan 10, 2008 05:50 PM Permalink
Majority of whites believe in skin colour. You live in the south of something ?
RE:Sign Of a New world order
by Akram on Jan 10, 2008 05:01 PM Permalink
you agree there was no israel before 1948. if not palestine what that land called as, who were administrating the area.
RE:RE:Sign Of a New world order
by shaji tabor on Jan 10, 2008 05:08 PM Permalink
If you say Palestine is of Israel,rather than of muslims,you must convert back to Hinduism since all your forefathers were Hindus.
