That is why India loose on tourism, no tourists really interested in venturing to risk. Specially single tourist would always avoid India.
nowadays many insurance companies avoid making insurance if you are a traveller to risky countries like India.
With these corrupt judges, rotten judiciary and mafia like police future of Indian tourism has gone.
One can always find policeman collecting haftas from vendors and hawkers on tourist sites. do you expect any help or security from them? it is foolish to believe in Indian judiciary and indian police which is one of worst on this planet. See how neighbouring, singapore, malaysia, thailand, hk,indonesia, china do wonders in tourism. World mock at this fanatic lawless country. Even elite or middle class indians don;t wish to travel to india. they prefer singapore, thailand , malaysia for their holidays which is much cheaper than indian tourism which costs more of harassment and money.
RE:Future of indian tourism
by Loan Shark on Jan 09, 2008 04:33 AM Permalink
Every country, inlcuding USA, releases accused on bail, if the judge feels that the suspect is not a danger to the society. Sometimes even murder suspects are released on bail. Releasing on bail does not mean acquittal.
So, don't always find fault with the Indian judicial system.
RE:Future of indian tourism
by Ramasubbu on Jan 09, 2008 04:59 AM Permalink
So how much money one pays in bribe to get favourable justice or to get favourable investigation by police.
Can any one in world adore indian judiciary who are often found collecting haftas and abusing the power. How many custodial deaths and rapes go unnoticed in india, If you pay few dollars to police they will even lick your a$$.
RE:RE:Future of indian tourism
by Loan Shark on Jan 09, 2008 05:12 AM Permalink
Obviously, you are confused between the roles of police and judiciary ... LOL
RE:Future of indian tourism
by Ramasubbu on Jan 09, 2008 05:46 AM Permalink
Iknow , police makes money and judiciary also gets benefited in helping them LOL.
tell me why indian judiciary is considered to be most impaired or paralysed? Infact police do the judiciary's job, much before judiciary comes into picture, where as they are suppose to investigate and fairly assiste judiciary in doing their job.
I see only one common comparison in indian judiciary and indian police- both are equally corrupt and do trading of law for money.
RE:Future of indian tourism
by Ramasubbu on Jan 09, 2008 05:57 AM Permalink
If there is law in india, why there are so many crimes and rapes, including rapes in police stations?
RE:Future of indian tourism
by Loan Shark on Jan 09, 2008 08:36 AM Permalink
there are crimes even in the US ... some even worse than those in India despite a better police and judicial system ... and absence (almost) of corruption
you have got your head screwed backward ... and that's not your fault ... LOL
RE:Future of indian tourism
by Judge on Jan 09, 2008 04:50 AM Permalink
IN usa in such cases Its done for a bail not less than 50,000 dollars!. hence in most of the cases people do not get to utilize bail option and hence people fear of commiting crimes. IN india the bail amount in such a case should be 10-20lac rupees.
RE:RE:Future of indian tourism
by Loan Shark on Jan 09, 2008 05:11 AM Permalink
wrong ... bail could be as low as a $1000 bucks for molestation ... not rape or sexual battery.
besides, getting a $50k bail bond is just as difficult and expensive as getting a 2 lakh bail in India.
RE:Future of indian tourism
by Mr Pundit on Jan 09, 2008 04:02 AM Permalink
India is not a safe country in terms of insurance companies and foreign tourists.
RE:Mumbaikars - be careful - molestors are on the loose
by Mr Pundit on Jan 09, 2008 04:07 AM Permalink
Now these criminals would go and harass their family. that is why no one go to seek justice in India. more crimes either way. Either way police mafia and judiciary becomes rich, by getting salary from public resources plus bribe or favours from criminals
RE:RE: Democracy
by Mr Pundit on Jan 09, 2008 04:03 AM Permalink
Probaly police made some money out of being lenient. IN india one can do murder and walk off, if he is tied up with local police inspector and pay him as little as 100 $.
RE:RE: Democracy
by Loan Shark on Jan 09, 2008 04:35 AM Permalink
releasing on bail does not mean acquital ... it just means that charges and evidence together do not make the accused a danger to the society.
Every judicial system has a provision on releasing on bail.
RE:RE: Democracy
by Ramasubbu on Jan 09, 2008 05:02 AM Permalink
It is process of giving freedom to accused. later on police and judges can make more money in never ending acquital process which never sees its end, atleast 10 to 20 years.
RE:RE: Democracy
by Loan Shark on Jan 09, 2008 05:14 AM Permalink
still it is the law of the land the the judge has to observe it ... even if the judge is aware of corruption in judiciary, he may not deny bail citing possible motive of the accused to bribe police and judiciary while out on bail.
RE:RE:RE: Democracy
by Ramasubbu on Jan 09, 2008 05:52 AM Permalink
Loar shark bhai , how much your dad or mom pay to register your birth certificate? or how much money you paid to police verification of your passport?(if you got one), how much bribe did you pay to register your marriage? Did you ever go to police station to write a FIR as a common man? How much did inspector ask you money?
RE:RE:RE: Democracy
by Ramasubbu on Jan 09, 2008 05:50 AM Permalink
I am not against bail, but against corrupt indian judiciary? Tell me how many judges do their job honestly or how many police in india do their job honestly..
I don't think foreign tourist or foreign tourist have dimaag who has to go by your theory. is that right? I think you must be born and bought with with the public money and bribe income in your family. Any non-govt , public or entity will not favour your words or have trust in indian legal system which has been rusted to the core.
Indian legal system has been oxidized with poisonous gases...LOL... i don;t think anyone with right minnd will deny this.
RE:RE:RE: Democracy
by Loan Shark on Jan 09, 2008 08:33 AM Permalink
ha ha ... nothing ... paid nothing for birth certificate ... well honestly I don't know ... but they never told me that they had to pay bribe for registering my birth.
didn't pay to the passport wallah cop ... (I am a US perm. resident) ... never had the misfortune of going to a police station in India or even in the US.
For most law abiding people like me in India, police and legal system is not an issue ... yes, if you are a criminal and police has been tough with you ... screwed you when you were down, they you deserved it
Thats y girls are not safe anywhere in India, murderers are roaming freely. Thanx a lot for one more time making me realize, what does "fk the law" means
RE:Pervert, Disgusting, Pathetic and go on......
by Mr Pundit on Jan 09, 2008 04:04 AM Permalink
Law means money to bureaucrats. They can lease or sell law for filling their pockets and increasing their bank balance here or in swiss.
Every area police inspector in bombay is nothing less than crorepati , because the get so much bribe, favours, gifts to whom they give protection..
Pay money and buy law, this is the only slogan which works for India.
RE:question!
by Fun Lover on Jan 09, 2008 03:06 AM Permalink
Ah! Interesting question. In this case some people were actually helping the women. For example, the Hindustan Time photographers and some other guy whose name I don't remember, who worked in a jewelery shop. There was also talk of a guy in a "red shirt" who was acting as a good Samaritan. These guys are NOT in the list of the accused. Moreover, none of the accused till now see to have claimed that they were helping the women. If I remember it correctly, some of them have actually turned themselves in, though they are facing lesser charges of unlawful assembly rather than the more serious molestation charges. So yes, helping is always recommended.
RE:Shame
by Mohanlal on Jan 09, 2008 01:30 AM Permalink
What else you expect from the judiciary?Even mass murderers are roaming freely in this country and you guys want the courts to deny bail for molesting.Thats funny.
RE:Shame
by Mr Pundit on Jan 09, 2008 04:11 AM Permalink
Justice ? India? what is the relation. If there was justice or law not for hire, then probably there wouldn't have been Phoolan Devi or Maya tyagi incicences.
I remember a police in UP PARADED maya tyagi nude on the streets just because police thinks they can do anything in favour of who pay them.
MOTTO SHOULD BE
LAW FOR LEASE, PAY AND GET IT .
In south India most of police station do private arbitration between parties and settle the issues. Money works here.
Writing FIR in india is expensive affair which cost anything between 2000 Rs to 5000 Rs in metros. Police stations are legalised mafia.
Women in india feel police stations and area surrounding is most unsafe fro public even being place of law implementation.
