RE:Dont blame Christian's for violence in Orissa
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 06:27 AM Permalink
See how xtians think! B*turds, to you lowly converts religion comes first, not nationality! Don't we know who is inciting those converted african tribals to target Gujjus in Kenya? If you continue this hatred of yours against your own country men, mark my words, not one xtian wil be spared in India! Go and see how xtians are living and thriving in Gujarat before you vomit sh**it here, scum bag.....
World should know that if they trouble Christians Christianity will grow but never stops, if you may stop rising son but cannot stop rising god's people Christians once Indiragandhi refer d "like sleeping lions" if you rise them you will face the consequences either ways let's love one another we all are Indians we only can change ourselves please pray that God almighty may unite our hearts, Jai hind
RE:Poor way of treating christians
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 12:37 AM Permalink
Xtians are "fully awake" SOns of Bit*ches"! Wherever they go, they destroy peaceful, indeginous religions/cultures and leave them strife ridden! We Hindus are "sleeping giants" and we are waking up now. We will slay the semitic demons called Xtianity and Islam. Modi is symbolic of it. By claiming there is only one God and only one path to reach him, you devils are spreading intolerance of the highest degree in the society and your demonic cult religion must be put to sword and will soon be....
RE:RE:Poor way of treating christians
by becker on Jan 06, 2008 02:48 AM Permalink
May God bless you. Everyone knows how tolerant your religion through you!
RE:Poor way of treating christians
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 06:29 AM Permalink
We only learnt tolerance from the "peaceful" cult called xtianity! I am surprized at your outburst when I only am repeating your kind words!
RE:Poor way of treating christians
by Rick on Jan 06, 2008 10:31 AM Permalink
ANOTHER GUJARATI CHU-TIYA. MODI COULD NOT EVEN GET A US VISA FOR HIMSELF. U GUJJUS ONLY DEPEND ON CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES FOR UR LIVELIHOOD. COWARDS
RE:RE:Poor way of treating christians
by Sensor on Jan 06, 2008 12:28 PM Permalink
Whom did christians depend on ? They killed local American and robbed their wealth and thrive on them, Now the Christians depend on Hindu Software and Buddisht products for survival
Govt. has given land-money-freedom of not being taxed to minority institutions. These lands in prime location and size are availabe to them from British Govt. Period!!! They are misusing and lending the land given to them for no cost to business houses to earn money. They are getting aids from foreign govt/institution. Using all these thing they are out to convert each and ever one on the name of social service. Let similar and parallel level playing filed be available to Hindus Organisations or otherwise there should be full band on conversion. Don't try to forget a report some time back where a guy from Jharkhand was caught in sting operation taking small kids for conversion..............
Please REDIFF at least you should become fully impartial and publish only those reports that has no colour.
converted toChristianity. Interestingly, the Maoist (Naxalites) activists in the district are also mostly from among the recent converts to Christianity.Among 47 Maoists arrested in connection with recent burning of villagesinhabited by Hindus ( Brahmanigaon, Jhinjiriguda, Katingia, and Godapur) as a counter to attacks by tribals on the Churches, 20 guns have been recoveredby the security forces from them. It is evident that the Maoists and theChurch are hands in glove with each other to spread fratricidal killings and clashes among the tribals which is evident also from incidents inKarbi-Anglong and North Cachar Hills districts in Asaam. Conversions of poortribal villagers are being conducted on gun point and by spreading terrorism. While in active government service Mr. Radhakanta Nayak IAS(Retd.) and Mr. John Nayak IPS (Retd.) both converted Christians wereinstruments of the Church to proselytize the poor and illiterate 'Pana' and tribal communities in Kandhamal district of Orissa. Under guise of NGOsthousands of dollars are pumped into the country for conversion of tribalsin Jharkhand, Chhatisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Andhra Pradesh and the North-East. Taking advantage of the poverty and lack of education, thousandshave been converted who are also being trained for separatist movements likeNSCN in Nagaland and Maoist insurgency in the aforesaid states. This trend is more pronounced since 1970 which is evident from the census reports till2001. In Kandhamal
the truth about violent christist insurgency in orissa jan 2nd, 2008
this of course will never make it to the media.
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Facts on 'Clashes among Christian Missionaries and the Tribals in KandhamalDistrict of Orissa'. Reports of communal violence involving the converted Christians led by theMissionaries on one hand and the Tribals on the other, in Kandhamal Districtof Orissa by the media since 25th December 2007 are vastly distorted and motivated which in public interest need be clarified much before thenational image is tarnished before the general public and the internationalcommunity. The whole series of incidents started from unprovoked and preplanned attack on Vedanta Keshari Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati who wasvisiting his disciples in Darsingbadi village in Kandhmal District on 24thDecember. Swamiji, 82 years old has been working relentlessly in the District since 1967 to protect the local population where more than 75% arebelow the poverty line and are not literate. He has opened schools andhostels, hospitals and temples to protect mainly the tribals and the down-trodden from the clutches of Missionaries who are operating withmassive fund from foreign countries and pumped into NGOs in disguisedoperations to convert the local tribals into Christianity. Chief of such NGOs is one 'WORLD VISION' patronized by one Mr. Radhakanta Nayak, a localof Darsingbadi village from 'Pana' community but later got converted toChristianity. He happens to be a
UPA, especially Congress/Sonia, supports all kinds of Christian Missionaries, so they can convert Hindus.
If they want to help the poor, then do so, BUT why do they have to convert them. And this conversion is what is causing all this violence and it has to stop, just like terrorism has to stop.
RE:UPA supports conversion
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 12:46 AM Permalink
If it is there during UPA or Congress rule wasn't there when BJP was ruling, it is not the problem of congress or BJP but the problem is the way people think about each others,if one can change the way he think only possible to stop violence.....if Gandhi was influenced by bible teaching to nonviolence that is the only way one can chage voilence...
RE:UPA supports conversion
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 12:50 AM Permalink
Gandhi was not influenced by Bible! Bhagavad Gits was his his guiding light till death. Missionaries asked him to convert so that they could convert a majority of Indians. But Gandhi snubbed them and read his comments on the crookedness of missionaries. You will hang in shame!
RE:RE:UPA supports conversion
by Godwyn on Jan 06, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
Mad....oohhh...Madhwa, How many lines of Bhagwad Gita have u learned??learn your own religion first then point out other religion!!
People should realise that many tribals convert to christianity because of the caste discrimination. Let the upper caste Hindus forget their casteist supremacy and treat all castes equally.
RE:eYy7W
by Srikanth on Jan 06, 2008 08:57 AM Permalink
Dear Becker, I bet you that those who have converted from tribals are equally in X'tianity. Their church is different and they are not allowed to pray equally with the others. They can't marry the so-called uppercaste X'tians. There is a church tax. I don't like to the part of this debate as I feel it is a freedom of any indivijual. But in chritianity, there are caste and other divides like Hinduisms.
RE:eYy7W
by George Godd on Jan 05, 2008 11:39 PM Permalink
Why people like u allways blame upper cast to hide secret agenda of Missionaries . Now there is no upper cast left in India , all position/ Job/Chair is occupied by ST/SC and OBC so wake up
RE:RE:eYy7W
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 01:35 AM Permalink
Yes sir you are right as for the statements and reservation rules, but come on let us see AP Politics, (96MLAs, out of 294 are reddy cast , which is only 6% of state population,35 are kamma which is only 3.59% population, Kapu's are 21 MlAs upper cast are 152MLAs) Upper caste is just 16 percent of state population but 51% seats are belong to them and 142MLAs are from Bc,sc STs others which is 84% of state population.think sir all the IPS IAS Jobs who holds, Starting from Municipality Dalit Have to work in drainage where as the upper caste man want to be in upper Chair, in village A dalit sweeper gets only 300 to 500 a month think about Modern world and technology of our country...
RE:eYy7W
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 01:16 AM Permalink
Sir you are absolutely right, good idea,if our home religion never treat all equally defiantly people think of some other way,
RE:eYy7W
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 01:18 AM Permalink
How come xtianity does not treat people of colore euqally? Heck, it is not even your home religion! You bloody converts are sick......
RE:RE:eYy7W
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 01:50 AM Permalink
Here i am not talking good about Christians at all but about the freedom i am referring as an Indian, if white are not treating black equally do you want to do the same? do you think that it is right thing? if they are not treting there do you want to do the same here?,sir.....
RE:RE:RE:eYy7W
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 06:42 AM Permalink
Man, you have a forked tongue! You have been blabbering about how converting to xtianity will bring equality to people. When I pointed out the anamoly with your religion of "equality", you cleverly avoid religion! Ask your white padres to reform the western society where all men of your own religion are not treated equally and then think of improving the lot of the Indians! You disgust me......
RE:eYy7W
by Global Hindu on Jan 05, 2008 11:20 PM Permalink
They convert to christianity because missionaries convert people when they are in vulnerable situations. No missionaris, no problems
RE:eYy7W
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
Hai who r the Christians they are mostly Dalit under privileged, downtrodden, for year together less educated, poor and under privileged people. what do you think they create problem or are they rising up on other religions to fight or violate it is not the conversion that is raising problem but the upper cast want them to be under their control, so Dalit when they become Christians they are civilized more and are compete ting with the world this the upper cast does not want to happened. missionaries are not problem makers but they solve the problems , think like "William carry" who first raised his voice boldly against the "sati" Practice.others fought on child marriages temple slavery Deavadasies system.. Problem is not with converts but with the upper cast....
RE:RE:eYy7W
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 06:37 AM Permalink
Lies of the missionary kind! Never ceases to amaze me how you guys lie. It is you second nature as taught by Bible.....
SC/ST/OBCs get all the facilities through resevation. In fact, no upper castes exist anymore in power. You are only converting by spreading these lies. The fight started when people that u scum bags converetd attacked a 82 years old Hindu swamiji. When hit back, you talk about equality and all that crap! You are mischief mongers and are a danger to the Indian unity and very existence. You have now teamed up with Naxals and the earliest you are taught a lesson, the better for Hidus and thus for India.
RE:eYy7W
by Bharathi on Jan 05, 2008 11:28 PM Permalink
missionaries are spies. Period. They convert poor people and make them spies for western gangs. Graham steines was also a spy who was looking at our missile installtions. Orissa is a defeense location dear. All missionaries are No 1 terrorist with allegiance to western and italian mafia
RE:RE:eYy7W
by SAM JOHN on Jan 05, 2008 11:39 PM Permalink
Graham stains was a doctor missionary.Healing and preaching good news of Lord Jesus.You and me would sit our AC houses and enjoy.Would we go to serve the lepers?would we go and help the unfortunate one?Hindu High castes are exploiting the poor tribals,which they want continue doing...so they want that poor tribals should not be educated or helped by anybody
RE:eYy7W
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 12:19 AM Permalink
Graham staines was a crooked misisonary in doctor's grab converting tribals and pitting them against the majority thus tearing the secular fabric of Hinduism! He met his match in Dara Singh!
You xtian crooks claim monopoly over charity. How abt Ramakrishna Mission, Vanavasi Kalyan programs of RSS/VHP for tribals? They are communal if they do charity and if you do, it is secular charity? Get a life hypocrites!
RE:RE:eYy7W
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 01:13 AM Permalink
Then many Indian missionaries are going to Europe and west with Buddhism and Hinduism, are they all spies? do you think that Indian govt want them to do such things? talking about Graham if he was a spy does he need to work with leprosy people and spy? will you even touch a leprosy man? if you say he was a spy proof some information he passed or if so why didn't the Govt cought him? Was "Dharasing" in missile department or in defense to kill him? or was there any reaction from Australia for this spy please think over it...
RE:RE:RE:eYy7W
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 01:21 AM Permalink
Where is the proof that he was curing "leprosy" patients! Dont lie thru your teeth! He was converting orissa tribals by inciting them against the majority. There are no leprosy patients amongst orissa tribals. Dont speard lies and you xtians are the leprosy ridden b*turds that need curing.....
RE:RE:RE:RE:eYy7W
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 02:07 AM Permalink
Let's not talk about Graham but tell me is it right for us to kill our own people just because of the religion? is there any report that Christians or Christian missionaries causing damage to any one just for the sake of religion.. if not so why then we do it to them? remember the news say that 338 houses were BPL People come on let's have pity let not the competiton talk.....
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:eYy7W
by Madhwa on Jan 06, 2008 06:32 AM Permalink
So inciting converted tribals and pitting them against non-converts is not a crime? To me this sedition and a crime of the highest degree! 80% of the non-converts are disgusted with the 20% converts that got money from foreign missionaries and are now treating the 80% as lowly........You guys must be kicked in the rear..
You do not disturb the rain forests or any sensitive ecological balance by allowing the free economics just by claiming that the country is now liberalised. The tribal belt of India is not ready for the freedom of preaching;the tribals have been left very much behind in the development of India. People qualify for freedom on the basis of their readiness for it. We have been going thro' very disruptive politics because of 'one man -one vote'. If you look at the north-east where the Christian preachers have got 'huge harvest',the same evangelists are now clamouring for 'protection of tribal identity'.
I am happy that somebody is exposing their hypocrisy and would like the government to immediately ban religious conversion in tribal areas and create focus on development.
How dare some xian attack a 70 year old VHP sadhu?what is wrong with this country? Why Hindus are so tolerant and get attacked by Muzzies and christians?
RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by becker on Jan 05, 2008 10:36 PM Permalink
Who burnt to death pastor Graham Staines and his two minor sons!?
RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by Demo-crazy on Jan 05, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
So, was it some kind of tit for tat attack, by Christians?
RE:RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by Lizlane xavier on Jan 05, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
dude you are talking against the community that has created enough hospitals orphanages and old age homes for jerks like you. if you dislike people converting then you go ahead and pick up the lepers,feed the hungry,help the needy instead of sitting at home on your ass and rioting. Learn to appreciate people who help you out,or at least be willing to learn the entire episode instead of creating unwanted ruscus.
RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by George Godd on Jan 05, 2008 11:44 PM Permalink
Nobody has invited them to do all this . They doing this to convert poor , un educated tribes . Why they have no gut to do thisd in Pakistan . There they have to convert to be cricket team . So do not take Hindus for granted any more .
RE:RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 02:18 AM Permalink
If poor get converted and become rich and educated what problem you and i have? when you create violence and kill them they are in latterly lose and are dying, is it humanity ? is it the time for us to do that? does our democracy say so? when people become Buddhist,Jainism,Sikh or parses why don't you question them? why are you only back of the dalit and tribal families?...
RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by ad on Jan 05, 2008 11:15 PM Permalink
are you under the impression that only christians do charity ?....don't muslims, hindus, sikhs do charity?.....are you proud about the inquisitions, about the wars in darfur, kenya, ethopia...?? charity has nothing to do with religion.....all religions have some negative traits....
RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by Lizlane xavier on Jan 05, 2008 11:54 PM Permalink
i am sorry brother,you are wrong, No religion had Bad traits. its only interpreted in the wrong way. but you tell me would you burn kids and women who have once helped your family.NO Right! how can you people be so naive.how can you all stand up for these creeps who burn churches and kill helpers. is this what you have learnt. when will you realize that the hinduvta that is used by polititions is far from the Real hinduvta (which is an amazing way of life.) Grow up! if you have so much guts then attack a muslim and show. you WONT right!!! you know that they will shove swords up ur asses. Chickens.
RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by prem kumar on Jan 06, 2008 01:43 AM Permalink
90% of Christians want to be recognized as Hindu but our system does not accept, they keep them as Christian, tell me who is separating Hindus it is we only. is there any Muslim wants to be recognized as Hindu? if Hindus are polytheisms people why don't you allow them to worship what ever they want and be part of Hinduism,it is not the matter of charity but the freedom they choose ...
RE:It is a pity in India,Hindus are not safe
by Srikanth on Jan 06, 2008 09:02 AM Permalink
Dear Xavier, You are painting bad colour on great religion x'anity. All orphanages,hospitals,education institutions are meant for conversions. You people are doing services only on this basis on not on the basis of actual human services. You degrade the service of Mother Terasa. God bless you.
