It is a shame that party like Shiv Sena which boast about Hindutva is hell bent on destroying the Hindu society by cultivating and spreading the weeds of poison. Actually this party is in decline and it is confused as to what stand should it take. Should they give priority to the 'Marathi Asmita' (to counter Raj Thackrey) or should they stick to Hindutva. Now we all know that Indian political parties have nothing like ideologies and they pay only lip service to it and hence the dichotomy.
Now coming to the 'Marathi Manoos' ideologues who have presented their views on rediff forum let me have a straight talk with you. A 'Marathi Manoos' is happy if he is earning a salary of 3000 rupees per month. If someone gives them an increment of 250 rupees per month they will be ecstatic and think that they are the 'King'. But he will never try to earn 10,000 rupees per month so that his standard of life increases dramatically. He lacks tha hunger that the other communities like the 'Bhaiyyas', the 'Lungis', the 'GaandaBhai' have to succeed. A 'Marathi Manoos' will always try avoid the hard work but still claim that whatever Mumbai is it is because of them.
So all the Ghatis on this board, just cool down, introspect about your well being and then come and talk to the hardworking Indians who can rightly claim that they built Mumbai. And long live Shiv Sena who should have created a kind of world record in corruption when they had power in Maharashtra.
I doubt whether Udhav is an educated guy.I feel terribly sorry for him. He should have born under British rule. Then he would have realised the importance of India standing together.he wants the money of the so called immigrants,he wants their brain,then he don't want them to stay there,just like some foreign nation. I think India is still undivided and still it is a Union of states and i don't need a passport to travel across the country(Except Delhi). But if he meant migrants from other countries who encourage terrorism in our country,Udhav may be right. But if he meant molestation of women, it was not an immigrant who raped a girl in the poilce chowki during the day time!
I dont like Shiv Sena and its ideologies, but being resident Mumbai since my childhood I have seen it moving from being a great city to a falling city..there is just no doubt that the working class population which have been flocking from UP and Bihar are the main reasons of this increasing crime rate and mess.These are frustrated and desparate lots who have only seen poverty and crime in their gaons. I am a maharastrian(who shows middle finger to shiv sena), but what I just said is being a Mumbaikar and any resident Mumbaikar -be a gujratiu, marathi,malyali all would echo my feelings. Though this is a democratic country where everyone is free to go everywhere, a line needs to be drawn somewhere. We can not have all the unemployed biharis flock to Mumbai(and even Delhi) and ruin this once beautiful city.
RE:Bhaiyyas
by anurag khare on Jan 05, 2008 11:19 PM Permalink
Dude, that happens all over the world people flocking to greener pastuers, it is responsibility of government to see that they don't become a burden (live onb streets and more)who rules the BMC????, who are the slum lords the same bloody politicians who talk crap and do nothing just make people fight against themselves so that they can get their vote banks
RE:RE:Bhaiyyas
by Madhukar sahay on Jan 05, 2008 11:39 PM Permalink
ppl like Udhav Thakre have their own grudge against norht Indians. Shiv Sena couldn't muster Vote from north indians in Mumbai because of such nation breaking agendas and are out of power. So their agony can be understood. Has Udhav Thakre seen the Group Goondaism that prevails when local trains ply from Bhayendar. The type of group goondaism is such that ppl standing at the gate of Local train wont at all let you in even if some space would be there inside. And immgrant ppl from one of hhe western state of the the country are majorly part of such goondaism. I wont want to name the state as i dont want to hurt anybody. But Udhav won't comment on it becuase of his nation breaking agendas, preoccupation and other grudges.
RE:RE:RE:Bhaiyyas
by Madhukar sahay on Jan 05, 2008 11:45 PM Permalink
And not to forget most of the class 1 bureaucrats and police officers who are running your state in a condition because of which Mumbai is known as one of the safest city are from North India.
RE:Bhaiyyas
by sandeep sulakhe on Jan 05, 2008 11:23 PM Permalink
I am not saying what is wrong and what is right and what needs to be done.I am putting forward what I have seen in 2 long decades that i have born,lived and now working in this city. My heart cries seeing Mumbai in the mess that it is now.
RE:Bhaiyyas
by Rebel on Jan 05, 2008 11:29 PM Permalink
Please lead the decongestion parade .....lets start with you .... please go back to what ever place your forefathers pigrated from ...does'nt matter if it is in Maharashtra .... ask your forefather why they left their native place in Malwan , Marathwada and the Kolhapurs and solapurs ....by the way I have seen what happens at Ambedkar Jayanti ...and they are not bhaiyyas ....what about Ramabai Nagar .... Dharavi ...how many bhaiyyas are there ??? ....
there is no doubt that there are just too many bhaiyyas in Mumbai but who is to blamed who is ruling BMC for the last 15 years .....not Bhaiyyas but the " dhartiputras" or the "insiders" ....
RE:Bhaiyyas
by pal on Jan 05, 2008 11:26 PM Permalink
friend check the facts, most of the people living in slums are from other parts of maharashtra. This is from figures issued from the government of maharashtra itself. most of the bais in mumbai ,where do they live , don't tell me they live in flats why dont people in south india or calcutta have a problem with migrants why do hear about problems in mumbai only , when non-state people live in other states also.
RE:Bhaiyyas
by santosh satpathy on Jan 05, 2008 11:17 PM Permalink
We r one nation when we see clearly that its in our interest.But we become marathi,gujuu,Bhaiyas,Biharis,bengali,Odiya ,tamils etc first when we see that we have to make sacrifies.This is the true nature of all us citizens.Even before the witness identify who the real culprits are ,SS ppl are beginning give the incidents political colors.As everyone know when it comes to apartheid politics SS is a veteran.Uddhdav is desparate and dont know who target, thats why he is shooting these idiotic blanks.
RE:Bhaiyyas
by Kvins on Jan 05, 2008 11:13 PM Permalink
Actually right..Migration to an extent is alright. But these people and their never ending chain of population that come to Mumbai causes a lot of strain on Infrastructure..
Believe when any train from UP/Bihar comes up . The entire Kalyan station gets packed up .. and you just cannot walk / or worst even stand..
guys....grow up... dont listen useless leaders like THAKEREs... this is 21st century.. all Indian regional leaders trying to pull back India back to stone age ...so that they can warm their ass on heat of poor people's sentiments.... Thakere's dont want anyone from outside..and they them self dont want to do anyting......remember... if all migrants move out of Mumbai...fukin Bollywood..and so called business capital of india would be some other place..and u know what would left....few egoistic people like Thakere's... Jai Hind
Moron Udhav should not think Mumbai is his own property. It is part of India. Every Indian has right to be there and go there. Shiv sena activits are bunch of goons.. who have no direction or guidance. They are like bull in china town.
RE:Mumbai is not his own property
by Chandra Prakash on Jan 05, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
They have one direction, very well guided. That is extortion. Chennai is a better place to live.
RE:Mumbai is not his own property
by Sudip Bhattacharya on Jan 05, 2008 11:05 PM Permalink
Chennai at any time is the best metro in India. I agree to you fully
RE:Mumbai is not his own property
by Krishna Arjun on Jan 05, 2008 11:15 PM Permalink
then ..why you are not going to chennai ?
Bombay / mumbai is now becoming worst and worst day by day ...It is impossible to run a industry here ...so many over heads , high salaries with low work output and cheap money eating ppl ...
Crowd any where. Electricity shut downs ...trafic jams ...rain water jam ...criminals ..what not ...
Mumbai is becoming like calcutta now ...a city near death.Once Rajiv have said this in past.
RE:Mumbai is not his own property
by GSB on Jan 05, 2008 11:13 PM Permalink
Kolkatta was a rot and will remain a rot. Bengalis are emotional and communists which makes them totally useless. Anyway all intelligent bengalis are outside calcutta. Ask a Bengali where he is from if he says any place other than WestBengal he is a usefull guy else useless.
RE:Mumbai is not his own property
by Aditya Phadnis on Jan 05, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
wish granted...make that also a separate state.
By the way the father of the nation during partition had sacrificed millions on Hindus in Punjab and Lahore so that Muslim majority Calcutta can come in India.
RE:Mumbai is not his own property
by Sagar Kulkarni on Jan 05, 2008 11:15 PM Permalink
great ...all chenaites leave mumbai God bless you, atleast the population of mumbai would be less...
RE:Mumbai is not his own property
by santosh satpathy on Jan 05, 2008 11:18 PM Permalink
We r one nation when we see clearly that its in our interest.But we become marathi,gujuu,Bhaiyas,Biharis,bengali,Odiya ,tamils etc first when we see that we have to make sacrifies.This is the true nature of all us citizens.Even before the witness identify who the real culprits are ,SS ppl are beginning give the incidents political colors.As everyone know when it comes to apartheid politics SS is a veteran.Uddhdav is desparate and dont know who target, thats why he is shooting these idiotic blanks.
just wants to ask few question to dear udhav. 1) who are the people who arrested in molestation case? 2) who was the gye who raped a teenager in khaki dress in day time at marine drive? 3)who are the people working in BMC which is incompetent corrupt to the core? 3) who rulesa BMC???? 4) who are the policeman in mumbai? 5) who are the politicians misruling, selling, raping mumbai? Udhav ji mumbai is mumbai not because of maharastrians but inspite of maharastrians!! Itna awaj karte ho to ek mumbai aur bana lena tha na maharastra me? remove mumbai & puna ,MAHARASTRA is like any other state in india. Mumbai was developed by Britishers as business center. U can only put shivajis statue over victoria terminus building! u people can only do symbolic things, keep on chanting marathi manus to get there vote so that u can keep on looting BMC and creating ruckus! most rowdy, principle less party u r leading my dear friend. There is a saying in hindi " jo dusron ki taraf ungli dikhata hai, uski khud ki 4 ungaliya uske taraf ishara karti hia. I still remember sharad pawars statement " shivshahai rojgar yojana me sirf do logo ko rojgar mila hai , udhav aur raj ko! change man! jai hind !! Jai bharat!!
RE:migrants and blah blah blah
by dheeraj on Jan 05, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
and udhav ji, b4 talking against outsiders first talk about bangladeshis! they r not only flooding mumbai, i have seen them in places like bhabhragad! i bet u dont know about bhambharagad! u will know only mumbai, because its milking cow! bhambhragad is deep in gadchiroli at AO border, naxlite infested!i worked there! i m bhaiya! if u have guts & leadership then do something for this menace! or hardly any hindus will be left to vote for u in india!
RE:Uddhav the IDIOT and Shiv Sena the MORONS
by Analyze on Jan 05, 2008 11:07 PM Permalink
U bloody shud leave Mumbai as u dont belong to it u use ur blooody cars think it is below dignity to commute by public transport If u are from Tamil nadu or North east indian which i presume u may be from either of these states .u consider all other Indians as outsiders The ring leader a panwala Rajender shukla is a behari all those of u who dont believe in keeping city clean make mocekries of BMC cleanliness drive. Visit gateway iof India 90 percent of all outside tourist throw water bottles into the sea u fool Get lost from Mumbai we dont ened arrogant rascals like u polluting it when Shivsena BJP cionstructs 55 flyovers please dont use a single one of them as u have no legal right to stay in maharashtra i know u dont contribute a single tax to BMC i also know that u dont if u have sanctity please give ur name Also i know u dont wish to halt at signals and encourage rash driving
RE:Uddhav the IDIOT and Shiv Sena the MORONS
by rishi txr on Jan 05, 2008 11:16 PM Permalink
Donot loose ur cool. India is for indians. How many more divisions u want. Is not the division of country as Pak & B'desh enough for us on basis of religion. How many more divisions on language, regionalism etc. Please stop dividing this country.
