SECULAR governments have an Endowment Minister and Endowment Department to manage Hindu temples and rob the money donated by Hindu devotees. Did they ever publish what they are doing with the Hindu money?
Why don't they have similar departments for mosques and churches?
Why don't these SECULAR people treat all religions alike?
RE:RE:SECULAR governments
by its me on Jan 03, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
it is our fault. we need to take weapons in our hand and give them lesson. 'laato ke bhut bato se nahi manete'. Every hindu must take arms training. Take resposibility of security of our nation and property.
RE:RE:Why not mosques and churches?
by Sultan on Jan 03, 2008 11:15 AM Permalink
we donot require security, hence we are not going for any darshan to have a such a crowd in mosque, infact we pray shoulder to shoulder standing behind Imam, we can pray any where in this world on salah time. Islam is perfect deen in the eyes of allah.
RE:Why not mosques and churches?
by JGN on Jan 03, 2008 11:22 AM Permalink
Mr.Sultan, your memory seems to be very short. There were many incidents of stampede during the stone throwing at Haj and fire at tents of pilgrims at Mecca, etc, no to speak of bomb blasts at Hyderabad mosque and Ajmer! Why you people single out only one section of the society?????
RE:Why not mosques and churches?
by blogger on Jan 03, 2008 11:11 AM Permalink
because not all the temples are having money to fund their daily expenses. They have to use the rich temple's money to maintain other small temples.
In Andhra Pradesh, the state government has an Endowments Department, which monitors the Hindu temples and even "takes care" of money donated by devotees.
It is this Endowments Department, which is responsible for the messy state of affairs in all temples. They run the temples as though they are business centers.
Temples must be run by temple authorities only without any governmental interference.
RE:Government must keep out of religious affairs
by Dev on Jan 03, 2008 11:12 AM Permalink
it dosent make any difference, by doing this, still funds will be robbed by sadhuu / sant or trusties.
RE:Government must keep out of religious affairs
by Dev on Jan 03, 2008 11:20 AM Permalink
you sounds like bloody VHP/RSS, why cant u just accept the truth, your way of thinking is different then why you want others to think as what you think, you are blind but others can see the truth......... you know what? all these money gose to RSS/VHP and BJP to play their dirty game across country
RE:RE:Government must keep out of religious affairs
by Dev on Jan 03, 2008 11:22 AM Permalink
about money for mosques and churtches......... everyone (except you) knows they comes from Saudi and Vatican
RE:Government must keep out of religious affairs
by JGN on Jan 03, 2008 11:34 AM Permalink
Mr.Dev, have you heard the saying "give the dog a bad name and hang it" You label every hindu as VHP/RSS/BJP supporter. The hindu temples are under the control of the respective State Government and there is no way the funds from temples can be diverted to any activity of those parties!!
If the endownment authorities has right to safeguard the temple proceedings,it is also responsible for this incident it just canot escape from its duty by blaming temple authorities.
I dont thinks any gods live in any of these temples or worship places. These things have become a haven for greedy people to make lots of money and for VIP's to show their political clout.
RE:Temples are all about greed and money not god
by JGN on Jan 03, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
The devotees fail to understand that most of the places of worhsips (of all religions) have now degenerated into money making ventures. It is really a waste of time and money visiting such places. On the top of that these type of incidents also take place!
RE:Temples are all about greed and money not god
by Dheeraj Akula on Jan 03, 2008 11:01 AM Permalink
The primary reason for degeneration is government's involvement in religious affairs.
In AP, we have an Endowments Department, which looks after all temples and also "takes care" of money deposited by devotees.
Endowments Department looks after of Hindu temples, but not Muslim Mosques and Christian Churches.
RE:Temples are all about greed and money not god
by Sultan on Jan 03, 2008 11:20 AM Permalink
Accept Muslims, we donot have to take any thing to the masjid to satisfy Allah. thanks allah, everyone is equal in front of allah, In Hinduism every body has to take something to offer to a god, a poor man he cannot satisfy GOD, rich man with black money doing mistiefs on the earth he will be given preference to have a darshan first. Can any body think man has created idol and he is worshipping him by making temples, what is this religion.
RE:Temples are all about greed and money not god
by JGN on Jan 03, 2008 11:25 AM Permalink
Mr.Sultan, if your religion is good for you, practice it. Don't redicule other faiths. I am an atheist and don't have any hesitation in rediculing any faith. Be prepared to accept redicule for your faith also if you redicule others. I have read The Koran and know for sure what it contains!!!!!!!! So don't try to be over-smart.
Almost all temples in india are exist to collect money from people who are in desprate need to solve their problem. Temple in tirputi collects crores of ruppes. We have not seen anywhere this money has been utilized. Most non-hinu holy places outside india are very well organsed and too much facalites are provided to the visitors and the best thing is they dont ask for single penny from the visitor.
RE:temples are for collecting money
by sm on Jan 03, 2008 10:49 AM Permalink
Hello Mr. Siddarth,
Speak if you know or else keep quite. Do you know there is a trust in Tirupathi. TTD. It has various temples all over and has sponsored so many good things for a common man. It has hospitals, schools etc under its trust and are doing lots of things to help those in need. So dont just say, they are not doing anything.
For facilitating easy darshans for public, they have this ticket tagging and finger print system. These tickets can be booked from anywhere, near to your home. There are lot of TTD outlets which can book tickets for you.
RE:temples are for collecting money
by John ramkhan on Jan 03, 2008 11:10 AM Permalink
you are talking without visiting tirupati. you please visit once so that you will understand what kind of anarchy prevails there.
RE:temples are for collecting money
by A Subrahmanyam on Jan 03, 2008 11:04 AM Permalink
Siddharth, its nice to know you are concerned.You referred about Tirpathi Temple , do you know how much TTD(Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams) speding money on Pilgrim Facility.How many colleges,Anathashrams,Elderly Homes are running based on the money provided by TTD.The money is not collected by them but they are donated by the devotees.
RE:RE:temples are for collecting money
by Dharmazi Sundar Shete on Jan 03, 2008 11:14 AM Permalink
donated by Amitabh bachhan, aish, and many more celebraties..
RE:RE:temples are for collecting money
by John ramkhan on Jan 03, 2008 11:12 AM Permalink
what you have seen is only the tip of ice burg. you dont know the darker side. please open your eyes.
RE:RE:RE:temples are for collecting money
by Tarak on Jan 03, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
Please enlighten us Mr.John. We are talking about sacred temples here, not the gay churches.
RE:temples are for collecting money
by sai pradeep on Jan 03, 2008 10:54 AM Permalink
IT IS HIGH TIME YOU GAINED SOME KNOWLEDGE, ATLEAST THE LEAST OF THE KNOWLEDGE BEFORE TALKINK ON ANY SUBJECT. DON'T GET HURT YOURSELF.
I do not know who started this trend, but Hindu people are visiting temple on 1st January instead of Diwali. One should not go to places where lakhs of people gather. stay away. and go after one day and have peaceful darshan.
RE:Do not visit temples on 1st January, your day is Diwali.
by tiya k on Jan 03, 2008 10:42 AM Permalink
The advice to stay away from crowded places is acceptable......but surely there is no fixed particular day, date or time to visit a place of worship or any other for that matter, that can be prescribed by someone totally unconnected. And the remark about hindus visiting a temple on 1 st Jan instead of Diwali is completely stupid and it is mentality such as yours that gives rise to communal discord. What is wrong with a trip to the temple on 1 st Jan ? For your information, it isnt all hindus that celebrate a new year on diwali. New years fall on various days but you seem to think that only Jains such as you are right and the rest of the world is wrong.
RE:Do not visit temples on 1st January, your day is Diwali.
by Janardhan on Jan 03, 2008 10:43 AM Permalink
How does it matter whether you visit temple on Diwali or New Year Day? How would it solve the problem of crowd management? Its about belief & faith. It is quintessential to have improved infrastructure for better crowd management.
RE:RE:Do not visit temples on 1st January, your day is Diwali.
by JGN on Jan 03, 2008 10:50 AM Permalink
pakeshaan, it has been reported yesterday that 211 persons had died during the Haj this year. That was also punishment of Allah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Do not visit temples on 1st January, your day is Diwali.
by Akram on Jan 03, 2008 10:59 AM Permalink
JGN,
Most of the 211 people you are mentioning died due to natural reasons.Previously there were stampedes and fire accidents killing many. the authorities were effective in preventing accidents. if the authorities have taken proper preventive steps " KUMBAKONAM MAHAMAHAM STAMPEDE" "THANJAVUR BIG TEMPLE FIRE ACCIDENT " could have certainly avoided
BTW pakeshaan just want the kind of answer you told to create trouble and spread hatred. he is certainly a trouble monger in mask, in a mesage he has written he is from LAHORE in another from KARACHI.
RE:Do not visit temples on 1st January, your day is Diwali.
by maddineedi chand on Jan 03, 2008 10:39 AM Permalink
Jitendra, they weren't visiting the temple because its New year but because its the last day of the Bhavani Deeksha. Please dont blame people by just assuming things.
It is very sad that whether there is a news involving Hindus and Muslims or for that matter any other religious issues, this message board becomes a canvass for the readers to spill out the filth that is in their mind whether it is anti-Hindu, anti-Christian or anti-Muslim. While many write here assuming that Indian Muslims are 'un-Indian', we also have this Telugu, Kannada, Mallu, Tam issues with the choicest language being used to abuse each other. This attitude is more dangerous and deplorable than any other in the world. We really need to change our way of thinking in this global world and learn to respect other religions, cultures and practices without being judgemental about them. Grow up my fellow Indians! Be the change you want to see in the world!
RE:When we learn to respect each other?????
by jagan rachakonda nadham on Jan 03, 2008 10:53 AM Permalink
Somehow your message seems not a soothing one but one that spreading religious beans. There is no striking sympathy for the dead or injured. It is one's own faith that leads them in their own path of religion. Looking for the change to other religion may be self-destructive. One should not spread messages with underlying meaning in the guise of 'change'. The message board is for constructive approach. Let us pray for the souls of those who lost their life in this incident and for the early recovery of those who were hurt irrespective of religious sentiments. Thanks.
RE:When we learn to respect each other?????
by Sakthivel Kannan on Jan 03, 2008 10:42 AM Permalink
Excellent Comments. Even I posted a reply to a comment posted by one of our friends abusing Rajini and his fans as bloody south indians. We should stand united, then only our enemies will respect and afraid to attack us. If we dont have the unity then we are inviting more danger to us.
RE:When we learn to respect each other?????
by Sakthivel Kannan on Jan 03, 2008 10:41 AM Permalink
Excellent Comments. Even I was posted a reply to a comment posted one of out friend abusing Rajini and his fans as south indians. We should stand united, then only our enemies will respect and afraid to attack us. If we dont have the unity then we are inviting more danger to us.
