It is irrelevant whether the "Ram Sethu" was man-made or is natural, what is relevant is that it does not make nautical sense.
In the case of the Suez and the Panama canals, ships save thousands of nautical miles in sailing distance and hundreds of hours in sailing time vis-a-vis the Sethu Samudram where a ship will probably save a few hundred miles and at the most two hours in sailing time. This is the difference.
"The Sethu Samudram does not make nautical sense".
-- Captain (retired) H Balakrishnan of the Indian Navy --
RE:A thousand probabilities do not make one truth.
by snpost on Feb 28, 2008 07:36 PM Permalink
We are talking about infrastructure here captain, not about nautical sense. Ram sethu will develop the port facilities of the South, and take business away from SL.
RE:A thousand probabilities do not make one truth.
by ramji on Feb 28, 2008 06:21 PM Permalink
NDA joined with DMK last election and got finished, Now it is UPA turn
RE:A thousand probabilities do not make one truth.
by subbiah k on Feb 28, 2008 07:13 PM Permalink
The fact is - NDA after parting from DMK got finished.
The underlying issue is the unspoken racism of the Aryan north and some South Indian (who have invented an Aryan past for themselves), against the dravidian south in general. If you read the Ramayana carefully, its just a book on how the Aryan North went to war against the dravidian south. Look at the subtle racism here, an army of monkeys from the forest in the south help an aryan invader to defeat a dravidian army. The Ram/Sita story was later invented to justify to the uneducated mass- the domination of the Aryan over the south and the war. Come on it the 21st century, the mass is educated now. We are hindus, but some stories that is associated with the Hindus in the North has to be re-looked at.
RE:Unbelievable
by thomas on Feb 28, 2008 05:23 PM Permalink
I heard there was a lizard named Periyar, decendent of Ravana, who did all nonsense in TN for sometimes and inherited a race of DMK(the modern Ravan army) who has a leader, arrested at midnight, showed his under garment to the world?
RE:Unbelievable
by snpost on Feb 28, 2008 07:51 PM Permalink
Yes, we became educated and started asking question about who was Ram?, who was Ravana? Looking underneath the layers of this myth - why did the aryans look down on the south (guys you called Ravana descent). Is it because of the lack of qualities in the people of the south or is it because of mere jealousy and racism. Look at some Northern states and compare with some southern states, the descendent of Ravana as you called us- is doing quite well.
RE:Unbelievable
by snpost on Feb 28, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
Yes, the truth. About the BS- the aryan masters been feeding the ordinary hindus for 3000 years. A bunch of monkeys build a bridge. Why can't UP/Biharis employ some monkeys to build infrastructure in their respective states. Yes, the excavation is also going to discover Atlantis.
RE:Unbelievable
by snpost on Feb 28, 2008 08:04 PM Permalink
Its easy to put all this down to aryan crap theory. The south is not the main market for fair and lovely in India. The fact is that the story of Ramayan is a story of the war of people from the North of India, against the southern states. This has to this date created a sort of racism which has not fully been explore in India. Of course everybody came from africa, but that does not make everybody on earth today eligible for an african passport (any one of the african countries). The truth is that there is regional cultures and regional languages in India. Stopping one state from achieving a dream, because of some story- which may well be more than a story in the Northern part of India is not a good approach. This is going to cause a rift between states and hindus.
RE:Unbelievable
by VPS on Feb 29, 2008 12:21 AM Permalink
You a fool. you don't know what u r talking about. You are a DMK's dog. Barking in favour of a foolish dream. To hell with your dream and let belief of crores should be saved. Jai RAM!!!
In the view of the Ram Sethu affidavit issue, it is shocking to see politicians and sections of the media treating Hindu sentiments casually. Once again our PM was out of the loop %u2013 this time in filing the affidavit by his government that Rama is a myth. The present case is an illustration of the UPA government's inability to show guts and acknowledge a mistake and address it. It is well known that the UPA government functions under the direction of Sonia Gandhi. If it gets bouquets then she receives them while brickbats are hurled at the others who form a firing line to protect her. When she realizes the opposition and fears that an issue would adversely impact a vote bank then she steps in to right the wrong and earns encomiums. Congress spokesman Abhishek Singhvi, who is good at verbal jugglery said, 'To err is human, but to rectify is divine', the ASI bureaucrats are humanized by receiving all the blame for the affidavit %u2013 but who is made divine? Divinity is a manifestation of godliness one wonders which god's divinity he has in mind. Even genuine objections expressed by the Hindus are dismissed as extremist, a stark contrast to the way minority issues are dealt with.
Hinduism ( First of all Hindu or Hinduism there is no Religion because there was no word called Hindu ) The Arabs/Persians called us Hindi ( because the dravadians are black ) Secondly the Arabs/Persians are called this land as Baharat ( Baharat means spices, this land for spices ) Hinduism a culture, mixed with Dravadians/Arayans/Muslims/christians/Budh/Jains/Sikhs and others. It is mixed culture. The Dharamshastar followers the Arayans Hijack and amended their books to control the locals. Let me know which is the first book available and how old it is and when it is written. The whole things are fabricated/deleted/amended according to need. So keep quite, there is no such issue let them carry-out the project it is good for whole country for Indians.
RE:Hinduism is just mere culture - Nothing more.
by gopinath yadav on Feb 28, 2008 05:04 PM Permalink
Mr.Karunanidhi,
I may agree with deletions / amendments / whatever u call the Aryans did. Your words says that other than Dravidians everybody has did some or other amendments /deletion etc; to their culture. I agree with you but not with the project to carry on.
Forget Rama/sita/Ravana/Mahabharahta/Quran/bible or anyother religious books which i may not know; this project is worse for the environment as we are going to demolish the naturally built sethu and dump the sand in so many places which inturn will be utilised for the constructions and make things more messier.
As per the climatists / environmentalists (world wide) they believe this sethu is restricting so many calamities (Water overflow, tsunami etc;) with which it is doing good for countries.
As for the Indian Govt. savings goes..it is hardly peanuts, they can eat enough money for all the other projects which goes in India but they say they wan't save money.
Pls don't get through the into politics of others and make this beautiful earth & us suffer. Already we are screwing the environment a lot and we can't do more. Let's give a better world to our future generation.
RE:RE:Hinduism is just mere culture - Nothing more.
by Krish G on Feb 28, 2008 05:41 PM Permalink
yep, as rightly said if u dont bother much about Hinduism have some regards for the ecology around you... a natural calamity is the biggest calamity of all... respect nature..
jus forget about whether its built by Ram or Adam.... a natural formation is meant to be kept and not to be demolished... remember there exists a coral patch underneath....
RE:Hinduism is just mere culture - Nothing more.
by vijay kumar on Feb 28, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
Do not spread what ever you can, try to read history first and then comment.
Read this first if you are a true Indian
Swami Vivekananda wrote: [The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, III, Topic 'The Sages of India']
The very fountain-head of our religion is in the Vedas (Srutis) which are perfectly impersonal; the persons all come in the Smritis and Puranas- the great Avataras, Incarnations of God, Prophets, and so forth. [Note: Srutis means revealed knowledge; Smriti means memory, history]
And this ought also to be observed that except our religion (Sanatan Dharma; Hinduism), every other religion in the world depends upon the lives of some personal founder or founders. Christianity is built upon the life of Jesus Christ, Mohammedanism (Islam) upon Mohammed, Buddhism upon Buddha, Jainism upon the Jinas, and so on. It naturally follows that there must be in all these religions a good deal of fight about what they call the historical evidences of these great personalities.
If at any time the historical evidences about the existence of these personages in ancient times become weak, the whole building of the religion tumbles down and is broken to pieces. We escaped this fate because our religion is not based upon persons but on principles. That you obey your religion is not because it came through the authority of a sage, no, not even of an Incarnation. Krishna is not the authority of the Vedas, but the Vedas are the authority of Krishna himself. His glory is that he
RE:Hinduism is just mere culture - Nothing more.
by Tamil Arasan on Feb 28, 2008 06:22 PM Permalink
You son of "B" "karunanidhi", people like you will even sell your women for money, so one can expect only such words from you. Go to Rome and lick Pop's feet he will give you more money, we are not going to believe your wicked story to divide Hindus in the name of Aryan and Dravidian, with the blessing of our great leader late Shri.Muthuramalinga Thevar Ayya who said "Hinduism and Nationalism are my two eyes" we will defeat the traitors like you....
Hinduism ( First of all Hindu or Hinduism there is no Religion because there was no word called Hindu ) The Arabs/Persians called us Hindi ( because the dravadians are black ) Secondly the Arabs/Persians are called this land as Baharat ( Baharat means spices, this land for spices ) Hinduism a culture, mixed with Dravadians/Arayans/Muslims/christians/Budh/Jains/Sikhs and others. It is mixed culture. The Dharamshastar followers the Arayans Hijack and amended their books to control the locals. Let me know which is the first book available and how old it is and when it is written. The whole things are fabricated/deleted/amended according to need. So keep quite, there is no such issue let them carry-out the project it is good for whole country for Indians.
RE:Hinduism a mere Culture.
by Tamil Arasan on Feb 28, 2008 06:19 PM Permalink
You son of "B" "karunanidhi", people like you will even sell your women for money, so one can expect only such words from you. Go to Rome and lick Pop's feet he will give you more money, we are not going to believe your wicked story to divide Hindus in the name of Aryan and Dravidian, with the blessing of our great leader late Shri.Muthuramalinga Thevar Ayya who said "Hinduism and Nationalism are my two eyes" we will defeat the traitors like you....
RE:Hinduism a mere Culture.
by bullseye on Feb 28, 2008 05:01 PM Permalink
karunanidhi,change your name from this sanskrit wording to tamil language -iraka (equivalent tamil word for karuna)-nidhi (panamudizhu- equivalent tamil word for nidhi) so change your name to irakapanamudizhu before you show your love for tamil and dravidans. tamizhen endru sollada,thalai nimerdu nillada. finally,for our friends who do not know tamil, the meaning of karunanidhi is- pity money bag in english.
why almost all the deadly deseas r originated frm the land of jesus, is he spreading peace or deceases i think second one is true long live jesus, for killing humanity
The sethu samudram project is supposed to save Rs 250 crore every year by saving the ships the detour around Sri Lanka. I believe that that sum is too paltry to justify the hurt sentiments of the Hindus. One could easily save much more than that every year by neglecting the innumerable tombs and deripit structures that ASI maintains all over the country. There are thousands of others that are completely neglectd. You require nothing to maintain the Ram Setu. Whether or not it was manmade is a different matter, it is the matter of what we want. I am not a very religoious person but I can understand the the feelings of those who are. The real point in all this is that the government is out to prove to the largest minority community that we co not give a tinker's nickel for the sentiments of the majority community, just watch how we snub them. That might work get UP vote on their side in the forthcoming elections.
RE:Rama Setu
by bullseye on Feb 28, 2008 05:11 PM Permalink
karunanidhi why do you carry this sanskrit name of lord vishnu who is the avatar of ram.better change yr name to karupumadhi which will meet your thought of blackmind.
Hi friends, this projct will never be implemented! No need to worry ! Soon there will be elections in May 2008 - for the Centre and for the TN govt.!!!!! Cong./Vijayakant/saratkumar on one side!! DMK with CPM and CPI on one side - ADMK/BJP on the other side !!! No one will get majority !! In the Centre BJP will come to power and drop the idea !!
DMK will be no where !! That is the end of DMK regime in TN !!!
Dayanidhi maran will join hands with Cong. soon !!!!
RE:Ram Sethu
by ramya kumari on Feb 28, 2008 04:20 PM Permalink
BJP in Tamilnadu Ha ha....
sethu is approved by BJP governement only.it is first signed by arun jaitley.for selfishness and want to rule india they took dmk support and signed it and now cried . this is nothing new for them. we know about advanis jinna speech and babri masjid demolition speeches some years ago. government should go ahead and finished this project as quick as possible.this is important for tamilnadu and tamil community. jai tamilnadu
RE:Ram Sethu
by Tamil Arasan on Feb 28, 2008 06:21 PM Permalink
Why "ramya" you are laughing come to my village in Nellai you will be surprised because 90% of my village are BJP supporters, rest 10% are Christians they will support only those party who is against Hinduism. For all this change in my village I am thank full for the Baxxtard karunanidhi, because of him we all become BJP supporters. Because we believe in our forefathers culture and religion unlike some traitors who can sell their culture and religion for money.
RE:Ram Sethu
by gopinath yadav on Feb 28, 2008 05:10 PM Permalink
Its right time you guys get separated from India. You no longer understands the of having unity. For you guys first state comes next country rather it should be viceversa for everybody.
Guys please change atleast we youngsters (if we are) let's not get into dirty politics of regionalism. Be united it may benefit u immediately but longtime it will be good and should make us to give good India to the next generation. Its our responsibility to do that and not screw nation as much as possible and give nothing to next generation
RE:Ram Sethu
by bullseye on Feb 28, 2008 05:17 PM Permalink
ramya kumari,i am fm kanya kumari.tell me which church pays more money for conversion so that can tell some people like you to beg them and be a chamcha to them with their cellphones/food weekly tips for church attendence.
