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Why this fight?
by The Brain on Feb 25, 2008 07:48 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Can I know why we are fighting? Can't you guys except a fact that there is only one single GOD.

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RE:Why this fight?
by The Brain on Feb 25, 2008 07:55 PM  Permalink
hey hi gagan chadha, how are you doing man?

yes, I was quite busy, was on offshore for quite a long time. Howz life going on...



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RE:Why this fight?
by veera kumar on Feb 25, 2008 07:57 PM  Permalink
"there is NO GOD,except ALLAH"

hope u got the answer ...

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RE:Why this fight?
by sayed tafseerhasan on Feb 25, 2008 08:06 PM  Permalink
godd one you ahve done my job

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RE:Why this fight?
by Libran on Feb 25, 2008 08:06 PM  Permalink
That is true and I call Allah as Ram, Shiva or Laxmi

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RE:RE:Why this fight?
by sayed tafseerhasan on Feb 25, 2008 08:10 PM  Permalink
you your self rfuted your claim Everyone knows
Ram shiva and laxmi are different characters. and Laxmi is Visnu's wife how can Shiva is Visnoo'swife

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RE:Why this fight?
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:16 PM  Permalink
We dont have any objection if you say the properties of RAM,SHIVA and Laxmi belong to one Almighty as almighty is ominpotent,most knowledgeable,bountiful and merciful but if you say no i pray ram i pray shiva and laxmi in there seperate forms and the forms created by a human's hand we totally disagree.

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RE:RE:Why this fight?
by veera kumar on Feb 25, 2008 08:17 PM  Permalink
who cares if u disagree ??? ha ha ha ...

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RE:RE:RE:Why this fight?
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:22 PM  Permalink
dont bother we call that falsehood at work.

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RE:RE:RE:Why this fight?
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:19 PM  Permalink
dont care..?? see we are open minded.

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RE:Why this fight?
by veera kumar on Feb 25, 2008 08:20 PM  Permalink
we call it mental disorder ..ha ha ha

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RE:Why this fight?
by JGN on Feb 25, 2008 07:55 PM  Permalink
There is no god. the jealously of the West Asian god/s is the main cause for the rift.

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RE:Why this fight?
by The Brain on Feb 25, 2008 08:02 PM  Permalink
If there is no god, then who created the earth, the moon, the sun, the galaxy, the universe...

Friend, everything has a creater, nothing comes by change...

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RE:Why this fight?
by JGN on Feb 25, 2008 08:05 PM  Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything has a creater...........then who created the CREATOR????????

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RE:RE:Why this fight?
by sayed tafseerhasan on Feb 25, 2008 08:07 PM  Permalink
how creator can be created

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RE:RE:Why this fight?
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:21 PM  Permalink
You have a point,but how did it get into your mind who put it.

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Religion
by JGN on Feb 25, 2008 07:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Religion is not the product of civilized man. Man inherits his god just as he inherits his physical qualities. The idea of a supernatural being creating and governing this earth is a phantom born in the mind of the savage. If it had not been born in the early stages of man's mental development, it surely would not come into existence now. History proves that as the mind of man expands, it does not discover new gods, but that it discards them. It is not strange, therefore, that there has not been advanced a new major religious belief in the last 1400 years. All modern religious conceptions, no matter how disguised, find their origin in the fear-stricken ignorance of the primitive savage - from The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks



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RE:Religion
by Solid Man on Feb 25, 2008 08:24 PM  Permalink
JGN if there is no God and no after life why be good in this world??? dont you think the world will finish logically if everyone beleives like u

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RE:Religion
by JGN on Feb 25, 2008 08:27 PM  Permalink
No, we beleive in neo-humanism and basic goodness of all humanbeings. Do you know that the Buddhists do not believe in any god? They believe in the theory of "karma" (though that is also not scientifically correct).

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oil
by super success on Feb 25, 2008 07:38 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

oil khatam musalmaan khatam

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RE:oil
by super success on Feb 25, 2008 07:39 PM  Permalink
bcoz no financer left for them

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RE:oil
by The Brain on Feb 25, 2008 07:45 PM  Permalink
Allah is the finacer for Muslim, you need not have to worry about them. Allah will take care of Muslims..



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RE:oil
by Indian on Feb 25, 2008 07:51 PM  Permalink
Yeah, we sure do know how he is taking care of muslims in iraq, chechnya, pakistan & other muslim countries.

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RE:RE:oil
by Mahesh on Feb 25, 2008 08:19 PM  Permalink
You should be glad that u r an upper caste Hindu.. else I would have been curious to hear you idiot speak !!!

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RE:oil
by rexberry on Feb 25, 2008 07:44 PM  Permalink
@super success
even if US uses it oil reserves toh Arab world ka haalat kharaab ho jaayega... mujhe bhi wapaas boriya bistaar lekaar india aana padega... i m ready for that... but US will buy oil only from ME

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RE:RE:oil
by Sangh Parivar on Feb 25, 2008 07:42 PM  Permalink
ha ha ha...can't stop laughing :P

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RE:oil
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 07:48 PM  Permalink
Please Note: Musalmaan never had oil before he ruled 1 thousand years on india.Never had oil when he ruled half of this earth.

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RE:oil
by santosh satpathy on Feb 25, 2008 07:51 PM  Permalink
Ali beta,think about ur self...how long u gonna roam on this earth??

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RE:oil
by The Brain on Feb 25, 2008 07:53 PM  Permalink
well santosh, he is going to live on this earth this the time he meets death. Allah has fixed everyone's time of birth and death.



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RE:oil
by veera kumar on Feb 25, 2008 08:03 PM  Permalink
@beta ALI

may i know when and which period in HISTORY did muslims rule India for 1000 years???

can u give us the historic time line ???

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RE:RE:oil
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:06 PM  Permalink
JGN please read the types of marriages in hindu dharma you will know what looting is.

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RE:RE:RE:oil
by veera kumar on Feb 25, 2008 08:16 PM  Permalink
@ali

perhaps did u pass in Mathematics ???

punjab is called entire Bharat ???

the first attack on bharat took place around 12 th century ...

now u can continue from here

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RE:RE:oil
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:09 PM  Permalink
Can you enlighten us with the timeline yourself.

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RE:RE:RE:oil
by veera kumar on Feb 25, 2008 08:14 PM  Permalink
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijayanagara_Empire

now u can enlighten us abt 1000 years Muslims rule of Bharat

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RE:RE:oil
by The Brain on Feb 25, 2008 08:05 PM  Permalink
veera, go and search google or read some historic books... it doesn't say 1000 years, but it definately says approximately about 1000 years.

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RE:oil
by veera kumar on Feb 25, 2008 08:07 PM  Permalink
@brain

u mean to say Muslims started ruling India at 10th century itself ?? ..

now u go and read history properly ...

the last Hindu empire to fall -Vijayanagar empire was on mid of start of 17th century ...

dare to give me the dates of approx 1000 years of rule ??? i challenge u

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RE:RE:oil
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:12 PM  Permalink
The first incursion by the new Muslim successor states of the Sassanid Empire occurred around 664 CE during the Umayyad Caliphate, led by Al Muhallab ibn Abi Suffrah towards Multan in Southern Punjab, in modern day Pakistan.

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RE:oil
by snehal bipin raval on Feb 25, 2008 08:18 PM  Permalink
Rule india? never read in history though...anyways i was always weak in history....even today :-}

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RE:oil
by super success on Feb 25, 2008 07:52 PM  Permalink
ali boy please answer my question why muslim killing muslim ? please clear my doubts

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RE:oil
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:05 PM  Permalink
that is wrong you are not supposed to kill a muslim neither a person like you.It is prohibited in my faith.I dont know what your faith teaches about that.

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RE:oil
by sayed tafseerhasan on Feb 25, 2008 08:14 PM  Permalink
why Hindu Killing Hindu, Cristian Killing Cristain, Communist killing Communist. Indian Killing Indian, Pakistani killing Pakistani I hope you got the answer

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RE:RE:oil
by The Brain on Feb 25, 2008 07:53 PM  Permalink
Muslim kills muslims is similar to hindu kills hindu. I hope you got the answer.

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RE:oil
by super success on Feb 25, 2008 07:57 PM  Permalink
where hindu killing hindu?

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RE:oil
by The Brain on Feb 25, 2008 08:03 PM  Permalink
oh lol, look at LTTE, look at Naxal, Look at MOIST. whome they are killing, are they killing muslims?

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RE:RE:oil
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 08:07 PM  Permalink
super@yes they dont kill each other but certainly some will kill the followers of other faith.
I dont say all but some definately.

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RE:oil
by Mahesh on Feb 25, 2008 08:18 PM  Permalink
How about Thackerey saaheb kicking off North Indians from Maharashtra? How about high upper class people not allowing lower caste people to temples? ...come on dude...clean ur shit first.. it stinks..

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RE:oil
by Ziauddin Syed on Feb 25, 2008 08:03 PM  Permalink
Is there any "valid" reason in a hindu upper caste killing a hindu dalit? NO. Killing has no reason.

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Chapman Cohen on God
by JGN on Feb 25, 2008 07:38 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Chapman Cohen, in his "Theism or Atheism," clearly276 states: "We know that man does not discover God, he invents him, and an invention is properly discarded when a better instrument is forthcoming. To-day, the hypothesis of God stands in just the same relation to the better life of to-day as the fire drill of the savage does to the modern method of obtaining a light. The belief in God may continue awhile in virtue of the lack of intelligence of some, of the carelessness of others, and of the conservative character of the mass. But no amount of apologizing can make up for the absence of genuine knowledge, nor can the flow of the finest eloquence do aught but clothe in regal raiment the body of a corpse."

Religion arose as a means of explanation of natural phenomena at a time when no other explanation of the origin of natural phenomena had been ascertained. God is always what Spinoza called it, "the asylum of ignorance." When causes are unknown, God is brought forward; when causes are known, God retires into the background. In an age of ignorance, God is active; in an age of science, he is impotent. History attests this fact.

"The single and outstanding characteristic of the conception of God at all times, and under all conditions is that it is the equivalent of ignorance. In primitive times it is ignorance of the character of the natural forces that leads to the assumption of the existence of Gods, and in this respect the God idea has remained true to itself throughout

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RE:Chapman Cohen on God
by bagpuss on Feb 25, 2008 08:03 PM  Permalink
The reason science cannot explain the existance of God is because scienece is not as clever as it thinks it is.

It cannot explain the so called 'big bang', why it happened, what was here before the big bang... it cannot explain the afterlife... it cannot explain the universe, its expansion or what it is expanding into etc. & for some obscure reason we are supposed to accept that science can answer everything... and if it can't then it doesn't exist... this just shows how minute science is compared to the things it cannot answer.

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Catch them young!!!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 25, 2008 07:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

If Christianity, Hebrewism, Mohammedanism, or any other creed is true, its truth must be more apparent at the age of twenty-five than it is at the age of five. Why does the ecclesiastic not leave off his advances until the child reaches a mature age, an age when he can reason? Then, if theism is true, he can accept it with a reasoning mind, not a blindly faithful mind. The theist realizes, however, that belief is at one pole, reason at the other. Belief, creed, religion, are ideations of the primitive mind and the mind of the child; reason is the product of mature thought. Schopenhauer remarked that, "The power of religious dogma when inculcated early is such as to stifle conscience, compassion, and finally every feeling of humanity."285
It is an undeniable fact that if the clergy would but leave their tainted hands off the minds of our children until they would have reached a mature age, there would be no religious instinct. Religious instinct is a myth. Give me but two generations of men who have not been subjected to this religious influence in childhood, and there will be a race of atheists - from The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. BROOKS


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RE:Catch them young!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 07:53 PM  Permalink
Muhammad only got prophethood at 40,jesus got it in the womb of her mother.Muhammad never bowed or worshiped any of the myth of arabia until his age of 40 at which he attained the prophethood and started preaching the true faith.
Jesus proclaimed he is a prophet of God in her mothers lap now tell me where are the tainted hands in there case.

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RE:Catch them young!!!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 25, 2008 08:11 PM  Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Muhammad never bowed or worshiped any of the myth of arabia until his age of 40 at which he attained the prophethood...........Mohammed was the person who carried out the repairs of the old Moon temple at Kaaba. It was only after that he got involved in the business of Prophet-hood etc!!!!!! Read some more history.

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RE:RE:Catch them young!!!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 25, 2008 08:12 PM  Permalink
Ali boy, Moses was a murderer from Egypt hinding in the hills of Sinai. The origin of Semitic religions itself is tainted!!!!!!!!!!

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RE:Catch them young!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Arun Arya on Feb 25, 2008 08:11 PM  Permalink
and you still dont see the tainted hands? no wonder u are a follower of maha-mad.

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drought
by super success on Feb 25, 2008 07:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

if there was no drought in middle east for long time than i don't mughal would have come to india

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RE:drought
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 07:55 PM  Permalink
you need to really study history if you want to comment about it.Mughals didnt came from middle east......sorry if i offend you you are wrong.

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RE:drought
by Arup RaiBaruah on Feb 25, 2008 07:48 PM  Permalink
Mr. Super Success
Mughals are not from Middle-East. They were from Central Asia

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India favourite outsourcing destination
by CaptJackSparrow on Feb 25, 2008 07:34 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I feel arab and roman were really powerful people who engaged so many out sider follower to work for them. They are sleeping and impotent people are fighting for their esteem. Good job arab we need to learn lots of from you.

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RE:India favourite outsourcing destination
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 07:56 PM  Permalink
like the kshatriyas,the vashiyas and the sudras did for the brahmins.

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Islam
by Pius on Feb 25, 2008 07:33 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

MUSLIMES ARE HARVESTING OPIUM IN AFGANISTHAN,KILLING EACH OTHER,BEHEADING,MARRING 4 WIFES,DENING FREEDOM TO WOMENS,LOW EDUCATION AND DOING ALL BAD THINGS,WHILL PREACHING, ISLAM IS THE RELEGIEN OF PEACE.

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RE:Islam
by Ali boy on Feb 25, 2008 07:59 PM  Permalink
pius what is wrong in marrying four wives didnt solomon,david,abraham etc etc did it.Didnt the punishment of murder was death in judaism from where jesus(pbuh)came.Do you know what rights women have in christianity and judaism.What education has to do with islam does it prohibit a person from gaining education, dont christians and jews do bad things(hitler is just an example)islam is definately a religion of peace dont you know the literal meaning submitting to one Almighty.Not to his creation.

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way to success
by bingo on Feb 25, 2008 07:32 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies



what an Idea
by bingo on Feb 25, 2008 07:16 PM | Hide replies

Lets convert paki arabic culture to Indian
culture. Bcoz earlier they had Indian culture.
Then merge Pak in Indian union.



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RE:way to success
by super success on Feb 25, 2008 07:42 PM  Permalink
merge with pakista no way buddy

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RE:way to success
by Fried Yakov on Feb 25, 2008 07:37 PM  Permalink
No merger with India unless 100% give up terrorism and adopt sane religions (other than the 'religion of peace'). It is time we decided that Jinnah did not do anything bad at all. He separated the grain in India from the chaff in Pakistan, and you see the difference today.

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RE:way to success
by Sangh Parivar on Feb 25, 2008 07:43 PM  Permalink
yes...they have to be hindu first !!!

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POOR BALCHISTANIS
by varghese on Feb 25, 2008 07:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

SAD PAKISTHAN IS STILL HOLDING THE BALCHISTHAN LANDS AND A HOST OF MANY LANDS..HIGH TIME INDEPENDENCE IS GRANTED TO THEM...ALL THESE KILLINGS R HAPPENING AS THEY WANT INDEPENDENCE..PAKISTHAN SHOULD GRANT INDEPENDENCE TO THESE PEOPLE..THEY CANNOT LIVE UNDER THE PAKISTHANI RULES AND REGULATIONS..ISLAM HAS NOT GIVEN THEM UNITY..THEY STILL YEARN BASIC FREEDOM..

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RE:POOR BALCHISTANIS
by bingo on Feb 25, 2008 07:34 PM  Permalink


100% correct.



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