Check his message -------------------------------------------------------- RE:No Valid replies. by Truth Exposer on Feb 23, 2008 07:56 PM I dont want to argue with you on false msgs if you really want to debate with me write somethig logically you will difinitely get answeres for that ------------------------------------------------------------
Mr.Truth exposer - Thanks for acknowleding that your koran and mohammed teachings are false. you yourself have agreed in this message that those are false messages. I have taken all the verses from Koran.But you are acknowledging it as false messages.
Great man. When Koran and Hadiths are exposed,islam has to hide like you.
i will keep posting certain other verses from koran. Keep explaining to the board. Do you need any more from koran and hadith.
RE:Mr.Truth Exposer is hiding behind Falsehood.
by on Feb 23, 2008 08:09 PM Permalink
Mr.Truth- Can you explain this to the board.i hope you are reading koran and hadiths. Every verse i have taken in Koran.
The Koran teaches us that there are seven heavens one above the other and that the stars are in the lower heaven, but the moon is in the midst of the seven heavens.
However, in reality the stars are much further away from the earth than the moon.
(Koran 67:3-5) He Who created the seven heavens, one above the other...And WE have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps ...
(Koran 71:15-16) Do you not see how God has created the seven heavens one above the other, and made the moon a light in their midst,and made the sun as a lamp?
(Koran 71:41:12) And He completed the seven heavens in two days and inspired in each heaven its command; and We adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and rendered it guarded...
Firstly, the Koran states that there are seven heavens in universe. Any sane person who has studied a bit of Modern Astronomy can tell that the conception of seven heavens was nothing but a result of Mohammed's absurd imagination. Muslim compliers try to cover up this serious flaw in the Koran by saying that the expression should be considered poetic rather than scientific.
Secondly, Koran claims that the stars are in a lower or even lowest heaven, while the moon is in a middle heaven. Even a child in primary standard knows today that the stars are much much further away from the earth than the moon.
RE:Mr.Truth Exposer is hiding behind Falsehood.
by on Feb 23, 2008 08:08 PM Permalink
Mr.Truth- Can you explain this to the board.i hope you are reading koran and hadiths. Every verse i have taken in Koran.
The Koran teaches us that there are seven heavens one above the other and that the stars are in the lower heaven, but the moon is in the midst of the seven heavens.
However, in reality the stars are much further away from the earth than the moon.
(Koran 67:3-5) He Who created the seven heavens, one above the other...And WE have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps ...
(Koran 71:15-16) Do you not see how God has created the seven heavens one above the other, and made the moon a light in their midst,and made the sun as a lamp?
(Koran 71:41:12) And He completed the seven heavens in two days and inspired in each heaven its command; and We adorned the lower heaven with lamps, and rendered it guarded...
Firstly, the Koran states that there are seven heavens in universe. Any sane person who has studied a bit of Modern Astronomy can tell that the conception of seven heavens was nothing but a result of Mohammed's absurd imagination. Muslim compliers try to cover up this serious flaw in the Koran by saying that the expression should be considered poetic rather than scientific.
Secondly, Koran claims that the stars are in a lower or even lowest heaven, while the moon is in a middle heaven. Even a child in primary standard knows today that the stars are much much further away from the earth than the moon.
RE:Mr.Truth Exposer is hiding behind Falsehood.
by MBotha on Feb 23, 2008 09:23 PM Permalink
dude, it is not for layman to interpret on quranic verses, picking out of context verses with intention of demeaning does no good. Having said that what is mentioned in Quran is beyond any doubt and is truth and nothing but truth. Keep harping out of context verses, mankind for 1429 years has tried to change holy quran, forget a word they could not succeed in changing a letter. And thats quran. The chanllegne is still on, keep trying!!
You are just a mortal with a limited knowledge, whose knowldge keeping chaning everyday. What is ok to day is harmful tomorrow. science is exact thing which looks ok for this moment, but is not so the next, due to limitations of mankind. do not compare mans knowledge with the All Knowing. dude, keep learning, we have a long way to go...
RE:Mr.Truth Exposer is hiding behind Falsehood.
by Sunny Armageddon on Feb 23, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
Koran 67:3 verse is as under:
67:3 [Hallowed be] He who has created seven heavens in full harmony with one another: [2] no fault will thou see in the creation of the Most Gracious. And turn thy vision [upon it] once more: canst thou see any flaw?
Koran 71: 15
Nuh (Noah)
71:15 "'Do you not see how God has created seven heavens in full harmony with one another, [8]
71:16 71:16 and has set up within them the moon as a light [reflected] and set up the sun as a [radiant] lamp? [9]
Your third reference is wrong as there is no 41st verse as are the other translations and ofcourse your interpretations. If you have any clarifications, do mail me coz i am a student of comparitive religions. byjoveh@rediffmail.com
RE:Islam is Reaching its END
by Sunny Armageddon on Feb 23, 2008 09:27 PM Permalink
Good wishful thinking and it is in total contrast to reality. Christanity and Islam are amongst the two celestial religions and ARE SPREADING.
RE:No Valid replies.
by on Feb 23, 2008 07:39 PM Permalink
Muslim scholar and statesman, Ali Dashti gives the following list of women in Mohammed's life.
RE:No Valid replies.
by rexberry on Feb 23, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
now if muslims start talkin about loopholes of mahabharat and ramayana.. wat can u do... draupadi had 5 husbands... kuch bhi...
RE:RE:No Valid replies.
by on Feb 23, 2008 07:47 PM Permalink
Mr.truth exposer. I dont belong to any religion. So i dont bother like you. But no religion created terrorism in the world except islam. So islam has to be defeated to save the human life and the earth.
Mr.Truth Exposer - You exposed you are a muslim.
Ok.Can you explain this.I am taking all the verses from koran. you know koran is the best tool to expose the falsehood of islam.
There are many contradictions in the Koran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations, however Mohammed, as you will see, being an illiterate was very capable of making such errors.
How Many Days Did It Take To Create Heavens And Earth? (Koran 7:54) Your guardian-Lord is Allah. Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX Days...
(Koran 10:3) Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in SIX Days...
(Koran 11:7) He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX days...
(Koran 25:29) He Who created the heavens And the earth and all that is between, in SIX days...
The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and the earth in 6 days. But the verses stated below contradict the above verses and imply that it took God 8 days to create the heaven and the earth. Read carefully and add up the numbers.
RE:No Valid replies.
by on Feb 23, 2008 07:49 PM Permalink
The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and the earth in 6 days. But the verses stated below contradict the above verses and imply that it took God 8 days to create the heaven and the earth. Read carefully and add up the numbers.
(Koran 41:9) Is it that ye Deny Him who created the earth in TWO days?...
(Koran 41:10) He set on the (earth). Mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR days...
(Koran 41:12) So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO days and...
Do the math: 2(for earth) 4(for nourishment) 2(for heavens) = 8 NOT 6
This implies that Mohammed did not know how to add integers.
RE:No Valid replies.
by rexberry on Feb 23, 2008 07:37 PM Permalink
there are loopholes in every religion... but understand one thing these religions is not today's creation.... what we feel wrong today maybe it was right at that time... you cant deny it... its applicable for muslims,hindus christians every religion ... each and every teachings of holy books is good but times have changed and living lifestyle has changed...so not everything is applicable today as per the teachings...... coz that was written many decades back... and everything written in any of the holy books is not practically possible today.. Your concern is terrorism and not Mohammed ... n if ur so concerned then stop travelling as all the petrol n diesel u use is from mohammed land.... if u cant then dun be hypocrite
RE:RE:No Valid replies.
by on Feb 23, 2008 07:45 PM Permalink
Mr.Truth Exposer - You exposed you are a muslim.
Ok.Can you explain this.I am taking all the verses from koran. you know koran is the best tool to expose the falsehood of islam.
There are many contradictions in the Koran. God cannot make an error in doing simple calculations, however Mohammed, as you will see, being an illiterate was very capable of making such errors.
How Many Days Did It Take To Create Heavens And Earth? (Koran 7:54) Your guardian-Lord is Allah. Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX Days...
(Koran 10:3) Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in SIX Days...
(Koran 11:7) He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in SIX days...
(Koran 25:29) He Who created the heavens And the earth and all that is between, in SIX days...
The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and the earth in 6 days. But the verses stated below contradict the above verses and imply that it took God 8 days to create the heaven and the earth. Read carefully and add up the numbers.
RE:RE:RE:No Valid replies.
by on Feb 23, 2008 07:49 PM Permalink
The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and the earth in 6 days. But the verses stated below contradict the above verses and imply that it took God 8 days to create the heaven and the earth. Read carefully and add up the numbers.
(Koran 41:9) Is it that ye Deny Him who created the earth in TWO days?...
(Koran 41:10) He set on the (earth). Mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR days...
(Koran 41:12) So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO days and...
Do the math: 2(for earth) 4(for nourishment) 2(for heavens) = 8 NOT 6
This implies that Mohammed did not know how to add integers.
RE:RE:No Valid replies.
by rexberry on Feb 23, 2008 07:43 PM Permalink
i have heard that a non muslim is termed as kafir .... and according to quran a non muslim will go to hell somethin like that... anyways this was written decades back...
RE:No Valid replies.
by rexberry on Feb 23, 2008 07:59 PM Permalink
@truth exposer i am a common man... for me my priorities are my family my happiness...... this is even with my indian muslim collegues,pakistani collegues,philipino collegues... trust me we never speak about religion... i think this is one of the reason we gel with each other very well
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by on Feb 23, 2008 07:56 PM Permalink
The Koran contradicts itself on this topic as well. The following verses state that homosexuality is forbidden.
(Koran 4:16) If two men among you is guilty of lewdness, punish them both...
(Koran 27:55) Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than Women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!
RE:No Valid replies.
by on Feb 23, 2008 07:54 PM Permalink
dont run away.Have you read hadith? what is the meaning of this.- Can you explain.
(Al Hadis, Vol. 2, p. 682-683, No. 106) Ayesha reported that the Prophet of Allah enquired as he was dying, "Where shall I pass tomorrow, where shall I pass tomorrow?" He was hoping it would be me (Ayesha), so his other wives gave him permission to use their turns so he could be with me (Ayesha) until he died.
Picture this, here is a "saintly" old man dying in the arms of his seventeen year old child bride and still fantasizing about which one of his wives to have the next day.
RE:RE:No Valid replies.
by on Feb 23, 2008 07:41 PM Permalink
So you agree that Koran and mohammed teaches falsehood. Excellent.
good point.Instead,Better all muslims can goto mohammed land.The world will be in peace.Go and ask all his followers to goto mohammed land,why are they staying outside his land.
RE:No Valid replies.
by thakela on Feb 23, 2008 07:38 PM Permalink
First of all, you do not have the courage to reveal yourself. And I don't know how much you know about your own religion.
RE:Muslims - you are trapped by world no-1 terrorist Mohammed. Beware
by Sami on Feb 23, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
you first read the teachings of Prophet PBUH. or else read the comments of swami vivekananda and other great people. If someone creat a image of terrorist muslim will not care at all. these all just created for cheap political advantages. every third country is a islamic country in the world. every fourth person is a muslim in the world. now one worries about the difficulties occur in the world. life is for islam. Allah says, Oh ye believe! Seek help with patient perseverance and prayers: For God is with those who patiently persevere
Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods, lives and the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tiding to those who patiently persevere.%u201D Say when afflicted with calamity, To God we belong and to Him is our return
Rediff should disable all discussion Boards related to terrorists and pakistan, because all discussions end up in only one direction, which will further divide the country and create more Yahya khans in the future. Because blame game leads to nowhere. People talk confidently about others and their religion whom they have never seen, known or understood.
RE:Moderator please ban lankapower
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 23, 2008 07:19 PM Permalink
Thakela, You r such thakela.... Rediff should promote such discussion. So people can vent out. And Rational and logical thinking emerges out of this
RE:Moderator please ban lankapower
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 23, 2008 07:27 PM Permalink
Thakela dude..ok.. Then how u can communicate with the Brainwash people. They are kupmendhak. Only think there world is limited with the well ..lam.
RE:Moderator please ban lankapower
by thakela on Feb 23, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
its look more like you yourself have been brainwashed by the likes of lankapower, anonymous, etc. These people don't even have a face. They find fun in writing hate posts.
RE:Moderator please ban lankapower
by Star on Feb 23, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
Sameer Bhagwat People like YOU have proven to be wimps in expressing great reluctance towards Islam and its Laws.. %u201CThroughout the years of conflict between the "West India, Israil" and "Islam", the media has strongly altered the minds of non-Muslims by negative exploitation of Islam,
One positive aspect that that arises from the media attention to Islam is that it is bringing many Muslims and especially non-Muslims to research about Islam and then convert to this faith.
RE:RE:Moderator please ban lankapower
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 23, 2008 07:37 PM Permalink
Dude Star, IF .slam is answer to all the problems of world. Then what's happening in Pakistan. Why .slam brothers are killing each other. Dude aurangzeb killed his father to sit on Rajgaddi..There is nothing called religion. It' all politics. Dude after 50 years of rule, still pakistan is nowwhere. Dude Imran khan married to jew...and he is hard islamist. Dude, there is nothing called jannat. Everything is politics. Mushraf thought if he centralise the power with himself, he wl able to do lot in pakistan. What happened! One man can not rule with Gun. Dude one idea can not win and tie whole world.
thank god, I hv not born to radical ideas. At-least I think my own mind to think.
RE:Moderator please ban lankapower
by Sami on Feb 23, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
you first read the teachings of Prophet PBUH. or else read the comments of swami vivekananda and other great people. If someone creat a image of terrorist muslim will not care at all. these all just created for cheap political advantages. every third country is a islamic country in the world. every fourth person is a muslim in the world. now one worries about the difficulties occur in the world. life is for islam. Allah says, Oh ye believe! Seek help with patient perseverance and prayers: For God is with those who patiently persevere
Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods, lives and the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tiding to those who patiently persevere.%u201D Say when afflicted with calamity, To God we belong and to Him is our return
RE:Moderator please ban lankapower
by Krommy on Feb 23, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
write something different, you are just cut & paste the same!!, if board memebers are reporting abuse means your post is not acceptable, cant u think!!
RE:RE:Moderator please ban lankapower
by Sami on Feb 23, 2008 07:25 PM Permalink
you first read the teachings of Prophet PBUH. or else read the comments of swami vivekananda and other great people. If someone creat a image of terrorist muslim will not care at all. these all just created for cheap political advantages. every third country is a islamic country in the world. every fourth person is a muslim in the world. now one worries about the difficulties occur in the world. life is for islam. Allah says, Oh ye believe! Seek help with patient perseverance and prayers: For God is with those who patiently persevere
Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods, lives and the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tiding to those who patiently persevere. Say when afflicted with calamity, To God we belong and to Him is our return
