I really want to know whether Pak is one of the states of USA so that US is able to wield its power. Why should a president, totally routed in the elections, the sole and only cause of lose of invaluable lives in Pakistan in the last 8 years as well who is said to be sole architect of kargil debacle, co-exist with the democratically elected government. Does the Pak people agree to this. Still the shadow of the death benazir is hanging on him and his colleagues. no one who brought injustice should be spared. Did Mush did everything on his own. If anyone thinks or say so, then they are said to distilled idiots. It was the pressure from the International community and the people of Pak themselves. the more important is that he being a ex-service man and a president (soon to be former president) should be treated with due respect. probably he may even go in exile to Jeddah (to the same house where he kept Nawaz). Let their not be any disgrace to him but at the same time he does not have the sanctity to remain in that place. Good bye President Musharraf
People of Pakistan as a matter of fact thank President Musharraf for having not only conducted a free and fair, transparent elections, but also lived upto his promise to restore democracy. This is the time for national reconciliation and to work together in the larger interest of the country and its people. To pursue vendetta against the very President is totally destructive. What is needed is constructive work and not destructive work. Its not going to help the country except satisfying the ego of certain political leaders. All the political leaders have been pardoned by him and those who are seeking his head must first understand that their past may be recreated as its ghost is still haunting them. They have a plenty of cases against them, and they were all not above boards misusing the positions when they were in power.These leaders must think dispassionately all the eventualities before going ahead with their plan for his ouster.This will create sympathy for him and any action taken against them by the President will later be welcomed as these leaders instead of rebuilding or refurbishing the image of the country,are indulging in mudslinging.They must act together and work out a formula to restore the confidence of the people.The action against the President can wait but the development works cannot.Let everyone work on this score and create an atmosphere so conducive that people should not think that dictatorship was better than democracy. Now the ball is in their court.
RE:Move to clilp Musharraf's Power - A dangerous move.
by super success on Feb 24, 2008 01:07 PM Permalink
baap re baap itna lambba bhaashan mey toh padte padte thak gaya
RE:Move to clilp Musharraf's Power - A dangerous move.
by anand kumar on Feb 24, 2008 01:17 PM Permalink
First of all Jamsheed should know that the so called "President" of Pak is a self styled dictator and going by the words of Secretary of State of US, it is her words that he faithfully follows and dictates to a sovereign state to keep his post. He allowed those who corrupted motherland and exiled to avoid facing trials, and just to keep in power will play to the dictations of US. US clearly said it will talk to Musharaff than to the elected representatives of Pak. Where does the state exist if the "so called" President is a puppet of US?
RE:Move to clilp Musharraf's Power - A dangerous move.
by arjun on Feb 24, 2008 01:23 PM Permalink
jamsheed abumohammed should should be next "prime minister of pakistan " for his remarkable thoughts. hahahahahahha
The signals coming from US show that Americans can only deal with only one selfish person.For their ulterior motives of creating inthe world, they will go to any lengths. Basically US is a TRADER country, who wants to do buisness at any cost, so that their arms factories will work. Hence they would want Musharraf in the dock.
RE:Muslims of India
by tabraiz khan on Feb 24, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink
Traiters are found not just in muslim community but also in Hindu community. The fact that Hindus are not reckoned currently because the common perception is that India belongs to Hindus and why Hindus will betray their country ?. Their betrayal is taken just as a revolt rather then being a traitor. When muslims were ruling India,many Hindus betrayed India more then one can remember now, assuming it to be a revolt just against muslims rather then against India but still Muslims never branded the entire Hindu community as traitors or terrorist.
RE:Muslims of India
by surath mukherjee on Feb 24, 2008 02:06 PM Permalink
Tabraiz for your kind information the person who revolted against the Islam invaders are treated as Freedom fighter and are given a heroic place in History like Rana Pratap Shing , Shaivaji etc. Moreover you were also an Hindu and after subjected to torture and for the sake of existence your forefathers converted to ISlamism. Muslims of never belong to Mughal ,Pathan etc.
RE:Muslims of India
by tabraiz khan on Feb 24, 2008 06:32 PM Permalink
Dear Surath, your freedom fighters like Rana Pratap who was against Mughal emperor Akbar never fought for Hinduism nor Akbar for Islam.Rana pratap just trying to save his kingdom and Akbar pursuing his imperialism.even Shivaji though a hero for Marathas(irrespectively of Hindus or Muslims) didnt do anything good for non-marathas. They were fighting for freedom just to maintain their kingdoms. It was only power which brought them against each other even today Congress and BJP fighting for power, Musharaf and Nawaz sharif and bhuttos for power. The lust for power is never ending. You are right when you say that many Hindus were forced during medieval period to convert them to Islam, but if this policy would have been generalised then the entire Indian population would have been muslims, but the fact remains that when the new converts got aware of Islam, they were not only proud to be part of it but sacrificed their lives in the name of Islam without any second thought. On the other hand Islam was not spread just by the power of sword, if you take East asian nations like Indonesia,malaysia,philipines, thailand etc, no muslim army reached there but Islam spread like anything. Proud to be an Indian, proud to be an Muslim, and respect for all Indians.
RE:Muslims of India
by rationalist on Feb 24, 2008 07:33 PM Permalink
Dear tarbraiz
Your thoughts are reasonable to a great extent, but for a small point
It is true, that hindus , who got converted became proud of their muslim identity later..True. but this has to do a couple of things
1.There is nothing in Hinduism that could instill a feeling of Guilt in them for being converted. Any convert from Hinduism to any other religious never carries a feeling of guilt with the, It leaves people free to choose. 2. Hinduism (in general -exceptions cud be there)do not instill fear in its followers that they feel terrible about the punishment from Hindu Gods for being converted into another religion
Due to the above two reasons the converted Hindus never felt the need to convert back
Also, the converted people were treated better by the ruling Muslim class than the Hindus who were not converted, there by increasing the stature of converted hindus in the society. Also Muslim as religion promotes extreme equality and brotherhood amongst its own members, so the converted Hindus were easily assimilated to the muslim fold.
Also the converted Hindus , were unarmed and dismantled, their movements controlled by the ruling muslim dynasties so that it was almost impossible to come out..
Also , after one or two generation under the above mentioned conditions, a normal hindu convert would have little intentions to go back to his parent religion, when the ruling class remind muslims and he getting privileges in his new found status.
RE:Muslims of India
by monjul islam on Feb 24, 2008 11:25 AM Permalink
The threat of communial violence in my Great Country is mostly due to IRRESPONSIBLE comments of IRRESPONSIBLE and narrow minded citizen like you.
RE:Muslims of India
by mohd uddin on Feb 24, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
i am a muslim...and i am proud indian..u knw in islam... u have to follow the rules of your country...and dyin for ur mother land is of great honour...
It will be very unfortunate in history if US does not flush the ex-general and allow democracy to exist in Pakistan. Let us hope that all citizens of Pakistan stand united and put other designs of external forces at bay and survive.
Things have gone wrong all the way since a long time; with the Sacrifice of the Tigeress, to the Violence, to the Babu-ing of a Man (Tigeress's Son) at a very young age. Zardari Bhai and Shariff Bhai need to be grateful to Musharraf for allowing them entry to Pakistan and Polls to happen. Had it been Hitler's era, and not Musharraf%u2019s, they couldn%u2019t even imagine what would have happened to them. But that things are settling, they need to know that Violence, impeachment, terrorism and force without reason have no place in Democracy and a god fearing country like Pakistan. Say it "Pak" - "Istan". Extremism will always boomerang and people development in Pakistan will never happen that way. Religion, God and Violence come next to People's lives. Pakistan should be grateful to Musharraf for his Guts, Greatness and Gratitude to people%u2019s thoughts, feelings and views. The new government should now realize %u2013 being leaders doesn%u2019t come free. Sooner they realize faster will development happen. There is no place for Violence in Politics and War of Words. With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility!
RE:Dont Backstab - PPP & PM-L
by anand kumar on Feb 24, 2008 02:52 PM Permalink
Who is tigeress? the lady who kicked her motherland for money and sold to US for the sake of power. For your kind reference refer the latest statement from Musharraf for the rason why he allowed the runaway corrupt politicians for elections. Rarely Musharraf also does not lie.
