RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 05:59 AM Permalink
My thought exactly. Less than 6 weeks after his wife was killed, this guy is all smiles on his party's win ... but revenge is a big factor here. I think he is happy to have a chance to take revenge on Musharaff and so he has joined hands with Shariff - a political rival of PPP.
Shariff was dethroned and exiled by Musharaff and his wife was killed by Musharaff (that's what Zardari has always claimed). Both have a common enemy ... and both now have a mandate from the people of Pakistan. The general has already lost America's trust.
Musharaff has to go now. He better strap a belt of explosives to his waist and pull the cord.
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:10 AM Permalink
what are impossible in india by the way, parvin killing pramod, indira killing sanjay or anything else?
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:19 AM Permalink
Indira gandhi did not kill sanjay ... those were just rumors. Sanjay Gandhi died in an air crash doing something he enjoyed doing ... aerobatics is a dangerous sport ... experienced military pilots have died in air shows
As for brother killing brother ... shah jahan and aurangzeb both became emperors after killing their brothers ... shah jahan died in captivity of his son ... so, chill.
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:24 AM Permalink
okay. stil there is only your dream that zardri who killed benazeer not even rumor but you are cursing the entire country for this. who told you that sahjahan killd his father brothers and even aurangzeb, why did he need to kill his brothers for becoming emperor? if any one deserves to be killed then he will be killed, right. any way do you know any brother of shahjahan? just let me know. shah jahan was wasting the public money and was only engaged unsocial activities, so he deserved to be imprisoned, even in prison he was only crying for his wife. this is not allowed for an emperor so he deserved to be in the jail. there is nothing wrong in this.
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:33 AM Permalink
I never said that zardari killed his begum ... did I? are you hallucinating or missed your dose of anti-depressant?
shahjahan killed his kith and kin ... I remember reading in my history book, although it has been several years since grade school ... but see how you justify shah jahan's imprisonment? so it is ok if a muslim does, but not right if a hindu does ... talk about double standards ... LOL
RE:RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 07:38 AM Permalink
wow! I am really impressed with your knowledge of hinduism ... I can't say if you are right or wrong as honestly, I have myself never paid much attention to my own religion.
Guess in my material world, religion will have to wait!!
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:39 AM Permalink
muslims are never double standard. do you agree for a man to remain imperor and enjoy on public money? if not then dont talk about shahjahan being imprisoned. you read books approved by indian govt, which is so biased and coloured that no body can expect anything fair. how much i have read about hindu culture and ramayana and mahabharata from history books, why should iread them? they are just stories and mythologies. what about teaching islamic histories. no body does it. it is better if history book is kept away from any kind of religions feeling and hatred and personal feelings too. you are not remembering any history book any way, you are simply remembering your leaders bjp and rss false propaganda, in fact if you repeat the lies again and again then it starts looking like truth and that's what these parties believe in.
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:48 AM Permalink
I never said that muslims have double standards. I said that you have double standards. Perhaps my english is hard for you to understand ... afterall it's my second language. LOL
I never asked you to read ramayana aur mahabharata ... even I haven't read them myself, just watched those 1000 episodes on tube every Sunday morning for months.
here is from wiki-pedia about shah jahan's fight for the throne ... hopefully this entry was not submitted by BJP
"Court intrigues, however, including Nur Jahan's decision to have her daughter from her first marriage wed Shah Jahan's youngest brother and her support for his claim to the throne led Khurram, supported by Asaf Khan, into open revolt against his father in 1622." read more there.
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 07:00 AM Permalink
yes you are rihgt, i am really not able to understand your english. but it is you whoo needs correction. where is brohter coming into picture, now suddenly you are saying shahjahan rebelled against his father and earlier you told shahjahan killed his brothers. do you know what youare speaking at least. i am not able to understand. and why you have this double standard any way? why you are starting this brothers killing brothers? are you not involving other muslims here and saying you are talking about me only. have you seen ramayana and mahabharata. how many people have killed their own for the sake of petty reasons. would you like to be like dharmaraaj ydhishthir? drinking, gambling and then betting yorur wife in gambel and remain dharmaraaj. hope you will be just to condemn this. hope fully allyour mahabharata and ramayana were not written by muslims. LOL...
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 07:09 AM Permalink
ok .. I said brothers when I was talking about both shah jahan and aurangzeb ... then, I said ok .... kith and kin as it's been a long time since grade school ... now you say that I earlier said brother and now quote as saying father - still kith and kin. Besides with matrimony within a muslim family, like niece marrying son, noor jahan's daughter marrying shah jahan's brother ... and what not .. who can keep up with the cobweb of relationships and who is sleeping with whose sister.
It's like you believe that it is ok to rebel and maybe kill your dad, but can't do that with your brother. who can possibly argue with you on that?
RE:RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 07:25 AM Permalink
I bet chauhaan got that idea from a muslim ... LOL
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 07:16 AM Permalink
there is nothing wrong in this cobweb relationship. now you are attacking islam, you peple just go adn have safe sex and enjoy your female relatives and discard them. we refreain from illegal sex and marry what is legal to us. any way, your so called gallen prithwiraaj not only married but took and run away his own brother daughter and your whole community calls this lecherous rowdy as prithwi raaj chauhaan. hope youwill have some mind to understand this. islam allows marrying cousins and there is nothing wrong in this. what is wrong is the illegal sex which is not at all bad in your society. when HIV spread, you say use safe sex and muslims say do only legal sex. do you find the difference shark bhai...?
RE:RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 07:24 AM Permalink
for some reason my messages are getting flagged ... there must be some string of banned word
anyway all i am saying is that for sane people it is difficult to understand the complexity of intricate relationships ... for you it's like second nature
RE:Zardari doesnt really seemed to be bothered abt ..
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 07:30 AM Permalink
no muslims take the girl and run away, they set marriage and marry like a simple nice person. this idea is flowrishing long back from indain great mythology which you morons worship like god. indra bhagawaan raped ahalya the wife of gautam rishi and was blessed instead of being punished, rather ahalya was punished, i dont know if you people do have any mind who to take as good or bad? taking a girl and running away is actually old great hindu culture in india. you will never find any such thing in islam or in muslims. now your corrupt ideas corrupt stories are coming out which you had been hiding for long.
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by on Feb 22, 2008 04:04 AM Permalink
Zardari will hang or kill Musharaff . Guys u watch and see!! this is politics not his laugh dude!!
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:03 AM Permalink
and what is wrong in this if this happens? Mush-Bush combination must come to an end and mush deserves a death sentence for being usa stooge and killing millions of innocents under the command of ifs master bush.
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:25 AM Permalink
for once I support your views ... this musharaff guy has really screwed up pakistan ... he caused a coup to remove a civilian govt ... exiled him .... benazeer couldn't come back to her own country, and when she does, he kills her ... or that's what the common suspicion is ... now what shoudl spare this general ... he should be lynched in public during the lunch hour of a ODI.
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:31 AM Permalink
it seems you are just joking but i am really serious about this. this servant of usa must be given to death so that in next future any body will have a fear in accepting usa slavery and killing innocents.
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 07:07 AM Permalink
it is not the belling a cat or any thing else. even this election was not fair. but the loss of ruling party simply tells that public is so much united against them that their all the unfair means too could not do anything good for them. the only book is jihad and this is jihad what pakistani people have done. two days before the poll there was death of 88 people but stilll they came on the road and voted to throw the usa servant out. this is called real spirit of freedom. if there is any blast in india, then the polling will be postponed for thenext month or may be later. otherwise no body will come to vote. yes spirit is lacking.
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:59 AM Permalink
pakistani public has shown opposition to musharaff in the first ever fair elections ... they never liked musharaff from day one ... but how do you bell a cat? and how do you defeat a dictator at phony polls? well, there is no book on either.
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 07:49 AM Permalink
88 dead? big deal? I mean people die in bomb blasts everyday in pakistan ... its' routine there .... that doesn' stop life in pakistan. it never will!
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:39 AM Permalink
pakistan is a slave of USA ... always has been ... atleast since the cold war and Nixon years. why deny now, when aid from US has been putting that bread on your table for years.
RE:CHANDAR DIKHTA HAI TU BANDAR
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:53 AM Permalink
not pakistan, rather some stooges of pakistan who have been put on paistan by force. pakistan public has shown the guts now and despite therewas a danger they came out in the public and voted, tihs is the real spirit indians are missing. usa did not support pakistan, rather some greedy people and you are just imagining that there is nothing in pakistan, pakistan is much more progressed than you can ever thing. you colour your ideas and thinking with hatred and see only what you already believe in. you dont want to see the truth, it is dangerous, as it will ask you to change your ideas which you dont want. i dont mind if you blieve in wrong ideas. but it will only harm you as belief in wrong ideas will never give you any benefit. if you talk about public then indians are more a slave than any pakistani. ask any public about usa they will support usa for any thing, some out of hatred against muslims and islam and some due to dollar flooding to them. at least pakistan is not doing such thing. public is much aware of what is right and what is wrong. for long iran was a friend of india but india voted against iran, is it not a slavery of usa, that too for petty reason 123 agreement which isnot going through also. now who is slave of usa and who is eating bread of usa? loook at iran who has already started enriching centrifuges, that's what is required from just people not like indians who support only their selfishness and hatred.
If one were to see, Asif Ali Zardari's face doesnt look like a face of a person who has lost his wife to a hideous crime just a couple of months back.Infact he has a wider ear to ear smile than Nawaz Sharif. Thats Politics for you...........
RE:Politics
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:04 AM Permalink
the one who lost his wife, so he cant not smile again, right? which religion dose asks people to do that? does your do it? dont talk like a moron.
RE:RE:Politics
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:28 AM Permalink
don't bring religion dude ... it is not about religion ... no religion says that you cannot smile for a certain number of days if you lost your spouse, a kid or a loved one ...
His smile shows that the victory, which came at a very big personal cost to him, is worth a smile.
RE:Politics
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:33 AM Permalink
are against his smile? i ask once again, why should he not smile? any problem in any rule be it religion or any society? which rule asks to sit down and shed tears for whole one year or three months and dont smile at all no matter what?
RE:Politics
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:26 AM Permalink
spot on dude ... he is happy that he gets to keep all the money and can get four 19 year olds.
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In the center of the biggest traffic circle of every major city in Pakistan sits a craggy, Gibraltarish replica of a nameless peak in the Chagai range. This mountain is the home of Pakistan's nuclear test site. The development, in 1998, of the "Islamic Bomb," intended as a counter to India's nuclear capability, is Pakistan's only celebrated achievement since its formation, in 1947. The mountain replicas, about three stories tall, are surrounded by flower beds that are lovingly weeded, watered, and manicured. At dusk, when the streetlights come on, so do the mountains, glowing a weird molten yellow.
Islamabad's monument to the atomic bomb occupies a rotary between the airport and the city center. Nearby stand models of Pakistan's two classes of missile: Shaheen and Ghauri. The Islamabad nuclear shrine stands at a place where the city is dissolving into an incoherent edge town of shabby strip malls and empty boulevards and rows of desolate government buildings. A little farther in one comes to the gridded blocks of gated homes. The neighborhoods are called sectors. The streets are numbered, not named.
Late last year, after nearly two months in Pakistan, I paid the last of many visits to house No. 8 on street 19, sector F-8/2, a modern white mansion known as Zardari House. The house has been used by Asif Ali Zardari, the imprisoned husband of Benazir Bhutto, Pakistan's exiled former Prime Minister.
If the two largest parties in parliament join together to get more than clear majority, disempowering small parties, it is good for the country, implying real democracy, will of people prevailing. It is like the INS and BJP in indian parliament coming together to form coalition govt, disempowering vested interest groups like the marxists, dmk/pmk, lallus, paswans and so on. Country's real interests will be addressed, progress over last 4 yrs much better. Good luck for pakistan!
RE:Grand coalition, good for the country.
by Loan Shark on Feb 22, 2008 06:05 AM Permalink
I agree with you. In India, Congress and BJP should at least support each other on issues of national importance. BJP could have supported congress on the nuclear deal ... but they were agianst it even before they read teh document.
In pakistan, the common enemy in Musharaff has united the two parties and hopefully, they will together kick his buttt in public.
RE:Grand coalition, good for the country.
by Vaibhav Patil on Feb 22, 2008 03:45 AM Permalink
INS ehh? is this dude talking about Indian Naval Services? lolololol
RE:Grand coalition, good for the country.
by on Feb 22, 2008 04:07 AM Permalink
u clear ur brain/mind dude ,india is far far better than paki. u wanna leave there in that economy , think million times !
RE:Grand coalition, good for the country.
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:12 AM Permalink
people are still living there. dont dream much. if usa fears any then it is pakistanis not indian who sell their soul for one dollar every day.
RE:makes no difference. kashmir is going to still be full of terrorists...
by Vaibhav Patil on Feb 22, 2008 03:46 AM Permalink
India bleeds since Indian politicians have got hemrroids
RE:makes no difference. kashmir is going to still be full of terrorists...
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:05 AM Permalink
why india expect something else when india keeps enslaving kashmiri people.
Whatever they gonna say they can't run the govt in pakistan without intervention of America now infact, when America has gone so far involved into every decision of Pakistan. Remember in the book written by Bhutto, Nawaz caaled of the army after US showed their anger towards pakistan for breaking the peace in south asia. How can any govt. would survive heron without them.
RE:Whatever they say they can't do w/o US
by Golden on Feb 22, 2008 06:07 AM Permalink
it is very clear that america's days in pak is over. USA cant have any stooge in pak and enslave it indirectely and directely taking pak will be a death sentence for usa, remember pak has nuke, a simple iran could not be cracked by this cunning country like usa then leave the pakistan alone.
Mush mama is still around and there is no word yet of him resigning and moving out, so what's the big deal about all these jokers coming together for a 'coalition.' He should have quit the moment the results were out.
