Bal Thackeray's comments are not only misleading but also mischevious. He cannot attack hindi and hindi people as directly as like attacking tamil and tamil people because hindi people control the central government. They will castrate him if he misbehaves. So tamil nadu and tamils are the scape goats. That's all.
RE:misleading and mischevious-III
by s m on Feb 21, 2008 07:10 PM Permalink
You are escaping the points made by Shree Balasaheb Thackeray. Can Lalu dare to say that Madras/Bangalore/Guwahati etc. cities are for all and biharis have constitutional right to settle down in these cities and demand Hindi as the principle language of working? Can he openly say that he will conduct chaat puja in these cities? Won't he be castrated if he says like this?
He is taking undue advantage of the patiance of Marathi people. Dare he say this outside Maharashtra?
RE:misleading and mischevious-III
by peria samy on Feb 21, 2008 07:31 PM Permalink
You are also misleading. Hindi has been announced as national official language without the consent of non-hindi speaking people and at the cost of other Indian languages. These hindi people, whether educated or illiterate, go through out India using only their language and show their arrogance to non hindi people by misbehaving. Now not with standing that, they demand hindi to be official language in states also. Already regional languages, some though more acheived than hindi, are facing difficulty in their respective region.So if your leader is a honest person, he should atack that. Why he should drag tamils here?. It shows he has a fear.
RE:misleading and mischevious-III
by Calspadeaspade on Feb 22, 2008 01:25 AM Permalink
I agree with you Peria. I have seen lot of hate mails from maharashtrians whenever Tamilians oppose Hindi.
RE:misleading and mischevious-III
by on Feb 21, 2008 11:48 PM Permalink
Fight guys fight ... because of all these nonsense we are still developing country. We donot need "external forces" to destabilize this country, but who nows, "external forces" are paying these stupid politicians to utter such stupid things.
RE:misleading and mischevious-III
by Roger Binny on Feb 22, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
YO,Saaamy Sirrre,,,,Idili vaddakum,,,nulla sirree..Pooongi baja dooon? There is not a single "northie or southie" napusank has guts to touch Thackery, try it. And see what happens. Saaaamy,,,,pls tell your terrorist LTTE friends to try it. Let's see how it goes.
RE:RE:misleading and mischevious-III
by Calspadeaspade on Feb 22, 2008 01:27 AM Permalink
Your Balsahib supports LTTE also. There is a point made by both Mumbhai and tamil Nadu. Only thing is they both attack each other even though there could be some common grievances and common grounds.
congress rulers refused to rename the left out part as 'Tamil Nadu'. In demand for the change, one Sankaralinga Nadar, who himself a congress man, went on fast for seventy days and died. Even after his death, congress party did'nt relent.All these events made Tamil people and intellectuals to suspect that congress party is trying to make the left out Madras state as cosmopolitan state, doing injustice to Tamils.When DMK came to power in 1969, they changed the name to 'Tamil Nadu'. During anti-Hindi agitations, no north Indian was attacked nor their properties ransaked in chennai or in Tamilnadu. But in Bangalore, hundreds of Tamils were killed, women molested and properties worth crores of rupees were looted by hooligans during cauvery riots. Tamils living in Bangalore ran away to Tamil Nadu for safety. During 1960s Tamils in Mumbai were hounded by Bal Thackeray and his men for just competing in employment. Even the eateries selling Idli Dosai were ransacked. Many got killed also. No one opened their mouth in those days. Tamils in Mumbai never threatened marathi identity or language. They always respected marathi people, their language and culture. Unlike Hindi politicians who go regularly for addressing their people in mumbai, tamil politicians like karunanidhi and jayalalitha are confined only to their state.Whether from Mumbai or Bangalore or ceylon, Tamils run only to Tamil Nadu for safety and protection if they are attacked. It is their safe haven. It should continue so.
RE:RE:misleading and mischevious
by Mr San Jose on Feb 22, 2008 01:07 AM Permalink
You certainly have a point but it will never fall into deaf ears (others who don't speak tamil) :-)
Before segregation of South Indian states on linguistic basis, regions like Tirupathi, Bangalore, Kolar, Malabar etc were part of the erst while Madras state. Areas like Tirupathi were considered as traditional Tamil areas in those days. Balaji temple in Tirupathi has ninety percentage tamil inscriptions. Since at the time of segregation, those areas went into the hands of other language people as they were more. In Bangalore, during segregation, Tamils were majority in the cantonment area where as kannadigas majority in Bangalore rural area. Since rural Kannadigas outnumbered cantonment area Tamils, Bangalore went to Karnataka. Same with areas like Kolar also. And today every body knew the status of Tamils and Tamil language in Bangalore, not to say about other parts of Karnataka.. During reorganisation of states on language basis, Tamils were the people to lose much to others such that even today Tamil Nadu has no habit of celebrating state formation day as like the other three south Indian states. Many tamils lost their life in relation to border dispute in those days. Even after the segregation of other states on language basis from erst while Madras province, congress rulers refused to rename the left out part as 'Tamil Nadu'. In demand for the change, one Sankaralinga Nadar, who himself a congress man, went on fast for seventy days and died. Even after his death, congress party did'nt relent.All these events made Tamil people and intellectuals to suspect that congress
RE:misleading and mischevious
by Dilip on Feb 22, 2008 01:11 AM Permalink
Mr Peria Samy, you have got many points right but I wud like to point out at some flaws. All ur posts in this page talks only abt Tamil Nadu and Tamilians, not a word abt India or Indians. How can someone like u comment on regionalism? To start with you say Cantnment area in Bangalore had tamilians as majority, I agree with you, but do you realise that when the British started railway service in Banaglore Cantonment Area, since they needed cheap labor and more man power they recruited lotsa tamilians and this is how they settled there(not like they were settled there from hundreds of yrs!) and cantonment is a very small region in Bangalore so it really doesnt matter. 90% of my friends are tamilians and so is my wife but I like tamilians as they have learnt Kannada and they mingle and have effortlessly merged well with the locals (except for a few tamilians who have recently shifted to Bangalore due to the IT boom). Its true that north Indians are taking away jobs all over as they dont have jobs in their states and they can do any work for cheap labor. Once they start they get their frnds and family thus populating the already messed up cities, but it is under no rule that the locals can stop them. Hence there should be a minimum amount of jobs kept aside for the locals to help them grow. Cities like Bangalore and Mumabi are big and popular partly due to investments from outside and workers from outside. So lets all be in peace and let others be in peace. Jai Hind!
RE:misleading and mischevious
by Indian on Feb 22, 2008 01:31 AM Permalink
Peria Saamy, did you act in Munnabhai MBBS as Saamy. the way you talk reminds us of saamy in MunnaBhai MBBS
RE:Treatment
by Roger Binny on Feb 22, 2008 01:18 AM Permalink
Well he lived for 83 years,,,still going strong,,,kis napusank ki baat kar rahe ho? Do you know anybody, or you are announcing your napusankata to the whole world?
How true! This nut had installed his illiterate on the CM's post in Bihar and he is asking Literate and Cultural Marathi people to become as qualified as Biharis to become eligible for jobs in Indian Railway ! ! !
A new yorker can peacefully live in Texas A Texas person can live peacefully in New Jersy A person from New Jersy can live in California A Californian can live in Nevada A Nevadahian can live peacefully in New York and so on...
Why? Bcos they consider them as Americans and not as Californian, Texasian etc...
Here we have Marati Manav, Tamilian, Gujarathi, etc. No common language across the country.
We are aping americans in case of increase rate of divorce & other life styles.
RE:Regionalism
by Calspadeaspade on Feb 22, 2008 01:38 AM Permalink
Your comaparison is not correct. you have to comapare India with European countries which are separate countries because of language and some cultural differences. Britishers made India one country. Prior to that they were different little small countries. USA is homogenous because of all the settlers from Britain. Italians and others joined them later so the adapted to english language and American culture.
RE:Regionalism
by Die Hard on Feb 21, 2008 10:29 PM Permalink
It shows your ignorance in History. For your kind information. USA is not a country of natives. USA is a settlement land for many of the Europeans. That is why you see a mix of European surnames in the USA.
When the people are not original sons of the soil, how would they identify themselves as Californian or New Jersian.
RE:Regionalism
by georgio armani on Feb 22, 2008 01:43 AM Permalink
completely agree with this, even if they are not the sons of the soil, why should be identify themselves for their states and not the country. i fear the next thing they would want is to have those states made countries out of india.
RE:Regionalism
by Calspadeaspade on Feb 22, 2008 01:42 AM Permalink
There is a fear in US about hispanic settlers. Spanish may become another laguage in future. They will have problems as it becomes more multi cultural and immigrant population becomes considerable in ratio to main and start demanding their language and culture. right now asians are invisible minority who have adapted to American culture.
Why can't Lalu do something for Bihar instead? Bihar has been paying his wages for so long- what has he done for Bihar in return? This is playing on what people expect from Biharis. What will performing Chhat puja in Mumbai acheived? I dough Lalu is brave enough to go an do Chhat puja in TN because TN goverment has made Tamil compulsory instead of Hindi in school.
RE:Thackeray is right.
by aditi dokania on Feb 21, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
I dont think he is right..Its all bullshit..I thing litrate people dont talk like this
RE:Thackeray is right.
by daimavane on Feb 21, 2008 11:48 PM Permalink
Dai soothu..
TN govt ofcourse will impose Tamil. English is also widespread in TN schools so we got the languages that matter in our schools. Now what is your problem?
RE:Thackeray is right.
by S Ramanathan on Feb 22, 2008 01:24 AM Permalink
Having all the languages TN wants is good. However, seeing hindi signs blackened out (over some old incidences in this modern age)in public places does not really reflect broad mindedness and would not win friends across state borders..
RE:Thackeray is right.
by georgio armani on Feb 22, 2008 01:47 AM Permalink
pity that we dont want to learn the national language...but learning english cos of economic prospects...these MFs are still slaves mentally
RE:he is a real hypocrite
by Roger Binny on Feb 22, 2008 01:22 AM Permalink
Hey Zubair katelee,,,this is not your cup of tea, jaa bhivandi,govndi,malvani and bhendi baazar mein chup baith. You know what happens to you guys when you cross with Marathis? What is there to challenge a "bhaisa" from Bihar? Let him come to Mumbai,,,uski hum log aacchi tarah se "jhaaat pooja" kara denge.
