It is good that this mush gone. We want that this new navaz will do some mistake as usual and we will have full fledge war with them. Let destiny decide who is strong to rule on sub continent.
RE:Good now we want war
by eureka mind on Feb 19, 2008 01:44 PM Permalink
nowadays... War means Neuclear war. And if that happens then there will be no PAK and IND on earth.
So, the war is not possible ... every country understand it.
RE:Good now we want war
by Vivek on Feb 19, 2008 01:09 PM Permalink
hey u r not going to fight the war. u wull be sleeping nicely on ur bed in ur house. dont talk about war so lightly. it affects many people.
RE:RE:Good now we want war
by pankaj bhardwaj on Feb 19, 2008 01:34 PM Permalink
its not about who is the strongest. its who is right n who is wrong. i think wat pakistan have done for past 50 years now that thing is hurting them. nw i think we dont have to think of war or anything they will distroy their nation themselves by fighting wid each other.
Concept of democracy in Pakistan is probably a gift from India, when partition occured. But to enjoy it, you need a certain sophistication in the population. Pakistan has amply proven that it is a country in control of fanatics and obsolete mullahs. Typical Islamic country. This 'Jahiliat' will always prevent them from becoming a truely secular and balanced nation.
Today, almost all world conflicts are a result of these Islamic terrorists. The more obsolete and irrelevent their religion becomes, more is their insistance on it.
In a way, Bush has done all of us a favor by starting anti-islamic tirade.
RE:Democracy?
by Rajan Sodankur on Feb 19, 2008 01:09 PM Permalink
No Islamic country can sustain democracy for long. Nor any alliance of islamic countries will be sustained for long. Because they are all united on being divided on their own and by outsiders too. The ruling class knows neither how to make their own people prosperous nor let their neighbors prosper.What a contrast between the intelligent, daring and pioneering Arabs of much earlier centuries and the degarded, short sighted and intolerant islamic communities of the present world!
What a situation Musharaff is in! If he uses the Army against the terrorists, extremists and fundamentalists, he will be called a dictator. When he doesn't do so, leaders like Benazir blame him saying that enough protection was not given to her. When he vowed to conduct the election, all declared that he would rig the election. If he deploys Army for a fair election, he becomes a dictator again. If he doesn't do so, he will be made responsible for the law and order situation. If he wins the election, all already declared that it would be through rigging. If he doesn't win, no one is there to appreciate him for conducting a fair election, instead will start talking of impeachment or execution. Can anyone tell, what should he do in order to please everyone? Don't say that he should step down because stepping down at this juncture will only help to double the trouble in Pakistan. Now it is certain that he or his party will not win election and please, at least now appreciate him for his bold steps to bring democracy in Pakistan even putting his life in danger. Hearty congratulations, Musharaff. I salute you.
I predict more tension in the Indian sub-continent especially in the India-Pak border in his absence and it may unfortunately reverse the peace initiatives India and Pakistan together have taken in the recent past. There will have not much difference if it is PPP or PML (Nawaz), which forms Government there. This is mainly because they will have neither the will to fight no
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by Sebastian Cherukanam on Feb 19, 2008 12:51 PM Permalink
I predict more tension in the Indian sub-continent especially in the India-Pak border in his absence and it may unfortunately reverse the peace initiatives India and Pakistan together have taken in the recent past. There will have not much difference if it is PPP or PML (Nawaz), which forms Government there. This is mainly because they will have neither the will to fight nor the control over the situation created by the extremist elements there.
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by dilip dengle on Feb 19, 2008 01:23 PM Permalink
Musharaff will soon dissolve the new house of elected members by taking the help of army.(as Gen.Kayani is his robot).For doing this musharaff has many reasons like...threat from terrorist,....threat from India,...etc. etc.
What a situation Musharaff is in! If he uses the Army against the terrorists, extremists and fundamentalists, he will be called a dictator. When he doesn't do so, leaders like Benazir blame him saying that enough protection was not given to her. When he vowed to conduct the election, all declared that he would rig the election. If he deploys Army for a fair election, he becomes a dictator again. If he doesn't do so, he will be made responsible for the law and order situation. If he wins the election, all already declared that it would be through rigging. If he doesn't win, no one is there to appreciate him for conducting a fair election, instead will start talking of impeachment or execution. Can anyone tell, what should he do in order to please everyone? Don't say that he should step down because stepping down at this juncture will only help to double the trouble in Pakistan. Now it is certain that he or his party will not win election and please, at least now appreciate him for his bold steps to bring democracy in Pakistan even putting his life in danger. Hearty congratulations, Musharaff. I salute you.
I predict more tension in the Indian sub-continent in his absence. There will have not much difference if it is PPP or Nawaz Sherif, which forms Government there.
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by Rajan Thimmannabhat Sodankur on Feb 19, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
Mush i hypocrite who can run with the hare and hunt with the wolves. Best exit route for him is what was shown to Saddam and Bhutto, for the sins of having nurtured the terrorism in Pak and Afganistan and continuously disturbing peace loving communities in India just to please a segment of his country's population. His days are numbered, rather hours. Watch out.
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by kapil on Feb 19, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
i think better he leave pak...Just like Idi Amin of Ugandan he can settle down iin US or UK. Of course he is in a comma situation...everything against him...but a rascal is a rascal...
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by Amit Bajpai on Feb 19, 2008 12:48 PM Permalink
We have his old house secured in India, let him come to india and beg infront of Jama Masjid
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by manish bhardwaj on Feb 19, 2008 12:52 PM Permalink
He is reaping what he sowed. Afterall he got it the wrong way . Its better for him to leave Pakistan. He has already done a lot of damage to country.His presence will make the situation get worsen only.
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by Hemant on Feb 19, 2008 12:50 PM Permalink
when someone uses his power agaist terrorists or extremists, he will not be called dictator. Only when, the power is used agaist the wellfare of the people, the person ruling is called dictator.
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by subir sengupta on Feb 19, 2008 12:47 PM Permalink
Sear Sebastian, What a sympathy u have got for Parvej Musharraf! Will u explain the source? There is nothing to appreciate to bring democracy, it is the most basic requirement for a country and a leader's basic duty is that. Moreover he was never interested to bring democracy to Pakistan which is evident from his commitment after commitment and go away from it with all sorts of lame excuses to enjoy the benefit of a number 12th worst dictator as has been rated to him according to the front page Times of India news paper.
RE:What a dilemma Musharaff is in now!
by mahesh patil on Feb 19, 2008 12:55 PM Permalink
dear friend sebastine, you forgot that he didnt salute our then p.m. mr vajapayee , such a paki he is,
and you are saluting kargil maker for his deeds which are anyway have been always against india,
Pakistan was born out of hatred towards India. It doesnt make any difference whether who rules Pakistan.Lets not be proactive but be on alert becoz we have a hostile neighbour , no matter who rules ..
RE:relations with pakistan
by on Feb 19, 2008 01:13 PM Permalink
The younger generation has to make the change. When Countries in Europe can form a union after two world war, why can't a subcontinet learn to co-exist. V.Suresh
RE:relations with pakistan
by Preeta Raghunath on Feb 19, 2008 01:18 PM Permalink
That is absolutely right. Though many Indians get some sort of satisfaction witnessing Pakistan is disarray the fact is that an unstable Pakistan is proably of more danger to us than a democratically stabe one.
Indian have lost the orignal idus valley to the pakiestanis in the name of islam, they are the only people who have destroyed its heritage and pisened the afghans too, the What is SWAT (Saraswati peeth) even the indus river is the so called river saraswati, in the vedas, the land worshipped by the locals, the same local after coneversion have fanataically destroyed an international heritage of the ghandharas/sindhis/the dedicated budhists of NW even alexander never tried to disturb, and respected them, the only way left for the pakistanis and the afghans to read their history and know them selves, and shun any thought of hatered. the only aim of these people is one word, non -voilence/tolerance/and ban hatered.let them understand the vedas. they still have a chance because they are still having the hindu and vedic blood in themselves.
RE:orignal inida
by Ali boy on Feb 19, 2008 12:14 PM Permalink
keep it up a dying religion like hindiuism requires such statements.But why dont you put something which can attract people to your pagan way of life.Something which we can consider worthy to discuss about.
RE:orignal inida
by Aneesh on Feb 19, 2008 12:49 PM Permalink
Your characted is died longback for sending your children to Madrsas and teaching hatred to wards other reiligions. You people can not be called as Humanbeings. You believe in violence rather humanity.
SHAME ON YOUR PART SHAME ON YOUR PART SHAME ON YOUR PART SHAME ON YOUR PART SHAME ON YOUR PART SHAME ON YOUR PART SHAME ON YOUR PART SHAME ON YOUR PART
RE:orignal inida
by Aneesh on Feb 19, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
What Mr Ali seemd you got pissed off when some on epoints out the heinous acts committes by ISlam. So many temples were destroyed by Blood mughal rulers. No body talks about it. But you people make a big issue on Babrimasjid. ( it was destroyed by Babar who says India is not a good place to live)
RE:orignal inida
by Aleem M.S.A on Feb 19, 2008 12:56 PM Permalink
You mean Satan exist..Then GOD must also exist right...So you believe in GOD!..But you know abt the GOD you believe? is HE/SHE/THEY capable of being GOD..Ha ha ha!
RE:RE:RE:orignal inida
by Jacob Sahayam on Feb 19, 2008 01:28 PM Permalink
You muslim terrorist. You are the follower of satan. We will launch another crusade to wipe your clan from the face of this earth
RE:orignal inida
by Amit Bajpai on Feb 19, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
Hindu a dying religion !!!!! Haa Haaaaa Haaaaaaa!!. Who is dying every day as Fidayeens and whom you are attacking "Pakistanis" both are not Hindus. You are going to die in fighting among yourselves.
RE:west's misplaced trust
by shah shibli on Feb 19, 2008 12:56 PM Permalink
I think you are unaware of the purpose of your existence in this world. please write to me about your point of view about Islam, and I will try to change your perception. If you can beat me in the discussion, I challenge you from that day onwards I will become a Hindu, which according to you is the most sacred religion. Every religion have a do's and don'ts to guide good human behaviour but Islam is the only religion in the world which shows the practical way. do wite to me at cancerianss_2005@rediffmail.com have a discussion with me you can bring a hindu scholar with you also.
RE:RE:west's misplaced trust
by chavi maheshwari on Feb 19, 2008 12:11 PM Permalink
what sort of madness u people have any topic any issue either political or sports u take everything to Islam, open ur mind gentleman and start thinking positively..
RE:west's misplaced trust
by VENKATARAMAN RAMACHANDRAN on Feb 19, 2008 12:00 PM Permalink
You just can't do that; please open your eyes and come to the real world. Let us all live and work together. All the religions are same, and advising their subjects to be Good in all respects. There may be some bad elements in all the faiths, but we should not generalise that and treat any religion bad. The way in which it is going in India now, the strength of Hindus are deteriorating day by day because of the westernised living in India. Take care.
RE:RE:west's misplaced trust
by Ali boy on Feb 19, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
Venkat@we differ here All the religions can be same be practicle there are semaitic and non-semaitic relgions.Both differ a lot.I agree to you that people of all the faiths must practice non-voilence and stop spreading hatred against one another and try to sit and talk about common terms between them. Sucide bombers are not what islam is, infact in islam it is a prohibited act.No matter what and if a person targeting civilians we muslims believe that he will never see the gates of paradise.These are the people who have been wronged but that doesnt give them the right to take someones life.It is a prohibited act in islam it is haraam.
RE:west's misplaced trust
by ashish sharma on Feb 19, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
Mr Lijjat Papad......
Before you start accusing a religion of spreading hatred and start talking like Hitler, first come out of your cowardly self and give people your real name.
And if you say Islam is the one spreading hatred, what religion do you belong to????? Because judging from your message, i wont say that your religion is in tha race for Nobel Peace prize either.
RE:west's misplaced trust
by Mohd Gyasuddin on Feb 19, 2008 11:52 AM Permalink
no one can extiguish the light of islam.u have lot of misconceptions of islam. my advise to you to read about islam from authontic source
RE:west's misplaced trust
by aarshabharata on Feb 19, 2008 12:03 PM Permalink
tell your fellow brothers to read about islam first. You just seem to be increasing fanaticism day by day. C'mon when you need to move forward you are moving backward to arabian culture of the middle ages.So before you tell others to read koran please tell your brothers to stop this fanatic outlook.
RE:RE:west's misplaced trust
by grir reeg on Feb 19, 2008 11:58 AM Permalink
islam is what muslims do and the culture they perpetrate in their countries. that is the most authentic source. no respect for women. stoning women to death. keeping women totally like animals. training suicide bombers. perpetrating terror. that's the most authentic islam available
RE:RE:RE:west's misplaced trust
by Ali boy on Feb 19, 2008 12:20 PM Permalink
grir@keeping women totally like animals you mean we keep women nake*d that is what you want to see of a culture.Brother how many stonings have you seen and tell me which way of life give more respect to women and rights as a matter of fact.Please tell me which way of life has more rights for women than islam? One whole chapter of the holy quran is dedicated for the rights of women.One whole chapter.Surat-ul-Nisa read the translation before you talk about rights of women in islam.
RE:RE:RE:west's misplaced trust
by VENKATARAMAN RAMACHANDRAN on Feb 19, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
You are thoroughly mistaken. Women are respected in Islamic Countries better than in India. A middle aged woman, either with full make-up or without make up, with full jewellery, with any shabbily dressed can walk safely even in mid-night in some Islamic Countries like Dubai / Bahrain, etc. whereas it is not possible in India. Gang rapes / chain snatching / kidney robbing all these are commin in India - Do you blame the country for this, religion for this, educational standard for this, security or the politicians - who is to blame. It is the PEOPLE, PEOPLE. Hence, do not criticise or blame any religion for such things. IN FACT, THE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ARE HAVING BETTER STANDARD OF LIFE, BETTER SECURITY FOR PEOPLE, MORE RESPECT FOR WOMEN, ETC. VISIT TO DUBAI AND EXPERIENCE IT.
RE:west's misplaced trust
by Shubhangi on Feb 19, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
You are very right...time the world woke up to this reality. Well said Lijjat Papad.
The Election trends in Pak show once again the shrewd intelligence of Musharraf. With 30 odd percentage of votes each, PPP and PML(N) would never work with each other and silently Musharraf gets his way. He manages to rig this to perfection and show the world that there was a fair election in Pak. While the monkeys (read Nawaz and Zardari fight) fight, Mian Musharraf gets his way. Amazing ways of the world.
RE:CLEVER MAN MUSHARRAF PLANNED IT TO PERFECTION
by V Ravishankar on Feb 19, 2008 11:54 AM Permalink
No, Musharraf is clear loser in this election. look at the results which main ally PML(Q) is almost routed, main leaders of this party have been already defeated.
This is clear win of people of Pakistan who have defeated all culprits including Musharraf.
