RE:finally some respite for Pakistan
by Sunit Kumar on Feb 19, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
Vijay why do u have a dream to trek and tour kashmir free, come on man u know why India is PICHADA because of people like u ..u want everything free ..damm it..and fearlessly...why are u afraid....why man why marna to hai ek din to jaa oo bindhast..waise Switzerland acchi jagah hai...
RE:finally some respite for Pakistan
by ravan on Feb 19, 2008 06:48 PM Permalink
Vijay, If Pakistan grows strong economically, Kashmir will be thiers forever. The only thing you & ur family will get for free is bullets & bombs. Pakistan will use that money to create more Terror in India.Read comments by some guy named Muslim in this forum & you will understand
Pkl. Afternoon 4.50pm, Tuesday, Feb 19th, 2008. The death of Daughter of the East Benazir has it appears not gone waste as her party seems to have emerged with 77 national parliamentary successes and with equally poorly treated ex-pm Nevaz Sharif 's gain of 62 parliamentary seats , the two groups as such are in majority in the newly elected national assembly. One hopes by the end of the week the position would be crystallizing and we shall know what is going to be the fate of human rights of ordinary Pakistanis.It should be possible to restore judiciary in the interest of democracy and fate of peaceful growth of democratic polity of Islamic democray of the subcontinent. D. Goel
if land and wealth of nature be joined with india then only it may be worthy...no need of people of thos country..even in india also i think the root of every misery starting from population..population..and population...and m surprised every day millions of isse and debate being raised and confronting but not a sigle party or so called country lovere never shout agnst uncoltrolled horrible population xplosion....super power..mega power..etc..etc will be just an word to write and read but unless sensible skilled limited HUMAN...nothing can be right
RE:hellow
by vinay thakur on Feb 19, 2008 04:53 PM Permalink
Politicians have encouraged the population growth among poor class in india.They need the majority of indians remain illeterate and poor so that they can remain in power. Congress can stoop to any extent If anybody will try to check exploding population of Muslims.BJP will do the same thing If it comes to Hindu.Who cares...Politicians have no dreams to make Indians develop rather making their own kith & kins grow ricker.
RE:hellow
by vinay thakur on Feb 19, 2008 04:53 PM Permalink
Politicians have encouraged the population growth among poor class in india.They need the majority of indians remain illeterate and poor so that they can remain in power. Congress can stoop to any extent If anybody will try to check exploding population of Muslims.BJP will do the same thing If it comes to Hindu.Who cares...Politicians have no dreams to make Indians develop rather making their own kith & kins grow ricker.
If the parties commit themselves to running the country on secularist principles rather than get caught in irrationality. Nawaz Sharif was a creation of Zia Ul Haq and is commited to closeness to mullahs. And there is no Benazir to keep him in check.... very little hope for Pakistan.
Musharaff once told that the border between India and Pakistan should be made irrelevant. I fully agree with that. I had/have an even broader suggestion and that is the re-unification of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan and I say that is the only way for a permanent solution to the Kashmir dispute. I have an even broader suggestion that all the borders in this world should be made irrelevant. Do not say that it is impossible. Did you not see the re-unification of East and West Germany even when both had entirely different political lines? If someone were suggesting this a half century ago, people would have laughed at that saying that idea as ridiculous. We have European Union now. These are all proven possibilities and you can see the invaluable advantages it brings in those nations. However, to make such things possible, there are certain unavoidable things that should be in place like an atmosphere conducive enough to sow the seed, a mature generation, a broad consensus and above all, a clear vision understood and accepted by all of a bright future where all the parties involved will be at the beneficiaries end.
RE:Re-unification of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan for peace
by Secular India on Feb 19, 2008 04:03 PM Permalink
Bad idea buddy. Strong fences make for good nieghbours.
RE:Re-unification of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan for peace
by Nasimul Haquw on Feb 19, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
I totally agrre with you sabestian!If south Asia has to develop then merger is the only solution as if India, pakistan and B'desh merge first good thing to happen will be the drastic reduction in defence budget ,which can be utilized to upgrade health ,education and sanitation of the masses which are living in subhuman conditions in these 3 countries.We just need once co-incidence to happen to make this possible ,we just need the head of state in India and Pakistan who truly think about the plight of the people of these 2 countries. But Alas! Politicians in both the countries thrive on politics of hatred and divisiveness.Till the time such stalwarts emerge in India and pakistan we will continue to have India and Pakistan hostile towards each other.
RE:RE:Re-unification of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan for peace
by Muslim on Feb 20, 2008 12:39 AM Permalink
Pakistan, India & bangladesh will merge soon to form a Islamic country...atleast northern India till delhi will be dominated by Muslims...south india will be dominated by xians...Hindus will be sandwhiched in between...Mazaa aayega
RE:Re-unification of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan for peace
by DON on Feb 19, 2008 04:01 PM Permalink
What will these two (Pak and Bangla), bring to India, other than violence, hatred, illiteracy, etc. Why Indians in a sense should pay for these people? indians have risen in world view not because of aid or help from any developed nation, but by sheer will power, guts and education of the young and old Indians alike. Time and again we have not ben helped by developed nations, and still Indians have done it. No sir, we love Indai that we have made. Wer dont want merger of any country, nor we want to give away an inch of our land. We ourselves have enough problems, like the one started with Raj Thackeray, where he is not accpeting people of his own country. And you are talking about acceptance of a whole
It is unfortunate that people like Shri Badri Raizada or Shri Bondu who have absolutely no knowledge of history make comments like this. we have to accept that Pakistan is an independent and Sovereign country. We must pray that Pakistan is a strong country. A weak neighbour with political and civil unrest will never be in the interest of our country. If the person living next to your house can not meet two ends, he is going to rob you.
Let us pray that peace returns to Pakistan and they have a strong democracy. Problems can then be sorted out peacefully over a period of time.
RE:Pakistan Elections
by trikarn on Feb 19, 2008 04:23 PM Permalink
ya mr. gupta, yes. but the catch is there, if pakis are strong they cause troubel like a goonda! if they are weak they rob ur house, as u put it. and to sort out problems peacefully???? wud take a million years! u pays ur money and takes ur choice!
RE:Pakistan Elections
by Aneesh on Feb 19, 2008 03:47 PM Permalink
Partly i agree with you. At the same time if our neighbour is stron he will try to encroach in to your land. China is doing the same thing.
RE:RE:Pakistan Elections
by Secular India on Feb 19, 2008 03:55 PM Permalink
If India is strong, no one will dare to attack us or take away our land. China can only make noises . Pakistan remains a threat as we do not know which General will plan a Kargil with democracy as a cover.
RE:RE:RE:Pakistan Elections
by madan menon on Feb 19, 2008 04:19 PM Permalink
It is wrong to presume that China can only makes noises. Remember 1962. There is no guarantee this won't be repeated. Keep it mind that China is a powerful nation next only to US.
RE:KAffer they r KAFFER
by Sankar Mitra on Feb 19, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
It seems you only know the bad few. I also can rattle out names like the killers of Mahatma, Indira and Rajiv, who were not Muslims. In a span of 44 years, we have assasinated three of our top leaders. Which country including troubled countries of middle east, can boast of such glorious acheivement and we call ourselves religious and non-violent. Have you heard the name of a teenaged lad called Akbar, who lived in a slum in Bandra (east)of Mumbai; during the post Babri Masjid riots of Bombay, a temple in Akbar's slum caught fire. While fetching water to douse the fire, the young lad was spotted by police and was gunned down. You may kindly note that Akbar was a muslim. Regards
Creation of Pakistan was a blunderous conspiracy hatched by the West to continue its policy of divide and rule and ensure their presence in the sub-continent through a weak and pliable Palistani State.This artificial construct state could never become a Nation and remained a "puppet" of USA used by them as a base of operations against the former USSR.Ironically it is now engaged in trying to destroy the very forces it had created to defeat Russia in Afghanistan without much sucess leaving Pakistan in a state of turbulence and turmoil. The current level of violence has taken the country on the threshold of a full scale civil war threatening the very existence of the state as a civilised country.It is to be seen whether a country deeply divided ethnically and at war with itself can survive as a single entity or breaks up in small individual units under the control of extremists/fundamentalists and foreign powers like China and USA.In such an eventuality we may have to be ready to act in unison with USA to assert our authority and work towards a re-merger as a federation or at least a confederation with that country.We must remain alert and prepared for all possible eventualities including a long drawn out militant conflict and strife within Pakistan which may spill over in our country in some measure.
RE:Pakistan
by Sanjay Rohida on Feb 19, 2008 03:29 PM Permalink
Very carefully drafted message Mr. Badri Raizada. You have communicated in one para, everything about Pakistan and as rightly said by you, we need to be prepared for the eventualities. Further, it is a proven fact, time and again, Pakistan politics can survive only when they keep hating India publically. The moment they are friends with us, their parties gets defeated in the elections.
RE:Pakistan
by Sebastian Cherukanam on Feb 19, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
Musharaff once told that the border between India and Pakistan should be made irrelevant. I fully agree with that. I had/have an even broader suggestion and that is the re-unification of Bangladesh, India and Pakistan and I say that is the only way for a permanent solution to the Kashmir dispute. I have an even broader suggestion that all the borders in this world should be made irrelevant. Do not say that it is impossible. Did you not see the re-unification of East and West Germany even when both had entirely different political lines? If someone were suggesting this a half century ago, people would have laughed at that saying that idea as ridiculous. We have European Union now. These are all proven possibilities and you can see the invaluable advantages it brings in those nations. However, to make such things possible, there are certain unavoidable things that should be in place like an atmosphere conducive enough to sow the seed, a mature generation, a broad consensus and above all, a clear vision understood and accepted by all of a bright future where all the parties involved will be at the beneficiaries end.
