yes man thats what is required, defy all bans and stand fast with your rights. these war mongers will never see you progress, these indias are just being fooled by usa but muslims must understand their duty. remember, long back israel told in the conference that they have fear from only from pakistan and they dont fear any arab countries. they were thinking about the soul selling arab leaders but in fact any one who is ready to defy the tyranny and lies will be a fearsome for these war mongers who are making world a bad place to live. creat a huge amount of arsenal and creat rift among others so that they can sell their ammunition. now this small country iran has clearly shown the world that only thing required is your firm decision and clear vision and not to bow down before these thieves. go ahead pakistan we are with you. dont attack on any legal countries but never spare israel which has been spilling out blood for long and punish this usa. only mush like rats have to be thrown out of pakistan and there will be no hurdle of progress for pakistan. mush clearly told that he is not the famous leader in pak and is sustaining because of western support. but his time and all the enemies of islam's time is very near. take the iran as small example and go ahead. have close ties with those who stand for truth and spit on the face of liars and their supporters. dont care this so call dirty international community, you have best example in your prophet, care not others.
RE:yes. yes. thats what is required...
by Confused Mind on Feb 18, 2008 11:44 AM Permalink
Golden do you have a proper job? Are you good at anything? Do you even understand what you are talking about? Does it matter if you waste time arguing whether there is one god, no god, or 360 gods. It year 2008 now. Grow up. Be mature. There is nothing there in any religion. Just use common sense, accept equality of all human beings across race and gender, women's equality and just focus on excelling in talent, skills, knowledge, education, excellence and action in the form of work, life, sports, arts, science, technology, music, films, theater etc. You will find the true meaning of life and break free from various romantic ideas and false dreams that are going on in your head. You will find that in most cases we are the cause of our own misery and mediocrity. You do not push yourself and crib around you only lose out in life here.
RE:yes. yes. thats what is required...
by JGN on Feb 18, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
Confused Mind, it seems that you are jealous of Golden blowing himself up "in the cause of Allah" and going to the "Paradise" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to worry people... there will be no democracy in Pakistan. Even if a democratic government is elected it will not stay on for long. Becuase Islam and democracy don't work together. Democracy means willingness to accept other points of view. The only way Islam knows to accept other point of view is violently oppose it. Look at history, have you seen democracy in any islamic state? So unless hardliners stop calling the shots in Islam majority countries, democracy will never come.
RE:Revolution ??
by Confused Mind on Feb 18, 2008 11:50 AM Permalink
Well said. Islam only one religion which is fundamentalist. Because that is the only religion which declares itself as State religion, unquestionable, unchangeable. Fundamentalism does not exist in any other religion. As all others are open to logic, dialogue, reform, reason and change. A fundamentalist is one whose fundamentals are incorrect. This kind of reactionary approach has been learned from them. And they are going down because of their own attitude. They either believe in short-cut or just cut. So, the whole world is slowly uniting against this mentality.
They tackle this in two ways.. 1. Attack on the culture, Youth and religion of a nation with mask of Money, Democracy, Freedom of speach, Media. 2. If the country can't be converted in the above method..they will defame the leaders of the nation, Defame the foreign policies of the nation in the world and initialte a military conflict siting some regional issues or weapons of mass distruction etc. Right now India is in the First category and is doing well, Iran is in the second category and so is looking at an imminent war. Though america is helping other nations in maintaining human rights etc to an extent but most of the conflicts in the world are still continuing due to america's intervension and its vested interests.
The Political Scenario in Pakistan is never stable.India should constantly watch pakistan as Mushraff or others (ISI) may turn tables (Hit India) to maintain political stablity in Pakistan.More over the US Funding Vote System may not work as expected since the military rule in pakistan has deepen down to public and rotten to decay them.
Monkey's were disturbing farmer's banana plantations,they use eat un-ripped bananas and other fruits in the garden.so farmer tried his level best to control them by stick,crackers he failed, then he took Gun, again he failed!!, finally he thought to "play one Drama" he kept some good banana & other fruits which was mixed with Bhang! and kept those fruits and some sticks near to his farm, monkeys came as routine, they ate all fruits, they got "mad" then they start fighting each other with sticks,hit one another without cause! after an hour all monkeys were laid in the earth, some of them dead !, some of them seriously injured,!! farmer watching whole Drama by sitting near his farm and he felt happy that, now he could reap harvest of bananas and fruits without problem.
RE:story of monkey and Bhang
by Laxmi Mishra on Feb 18, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
The Morale of this story is exactly what happened in Pakistan, Mushraff is the farmer and already mixed Bhang in the Mullah's fruits and now they are fighting but kahani mein twist...Well then the monkeys fought and one monkey gone mad and hit the farmer with a stone and the farmer is dead....finally they also killed each other and other farmer came and captured the Land..........Zia-Ul-Haque got killed, Zulifikar Ali BHutoo got killed then his daughter Benazirrrrr....Now Mush Mush hai..Mush also gonna the same trauma...He should also put into death.......Insha-Allha..then Our Sonia Gandhi will head off to Pakistan and sit there as their PM coz here no pardeshi can be Desi.......Ha ha ha .....Allha-Hafiz
Iran is the only country which has progressed dispite sanctions against it for so many years. They have spat in the face of US bullying tactics. Now the US is after it because they want its oil and US wants to destroy Iran's infrastructure to put it behind by 20 years. Pakistan can never has such a revolution, beacuse it is a puppet in the hands of the US. Even if there is a islamic revolution, it will not have the likeness to the Iran revolution. Iranis are shia muslims and the Pakis are sunni muslims. The better word would be Pakistan may have a Afghanistan (Taliban) type revolution. And India needs such a revolution in Pakistan to enusre that these guys stay in the stone ages ;-)
It is like listening to Vedas from Devil's mouth. This useless fellow now thinks of a revolution of the kind of Iran!! Iran opposed America and probably he wants Pak also to do that !!? Why probably Musharaff did not give some ambassodor post , or an advisor inside the caucus establishment. People like Gul completely undermined the institutions of pakistan and as the time passes by they destoryed them. Now he thinks about Iran like revolution? NOw there is terrible shortage for food in Pakistan ! about 30 Rs a kilo for wheat ! May be 250 to 300 rupees for one kg of meat. Rs 65 for one litre petrol. People stand in long ques to buy chaval,wheat only to find sometimes they are exahusted, "no stock" board etc., It is surprising to find ordinary people are very different from the mentalities of the kind of Mr.Gul and Musharaff ,the ISI and other fanatics whose mind has been infected, with "fanatic" virus. An ordinary uneducated pakistani seems to be better than educated morons,fanatics who want Kashmir in the hope making it another hell.
The entire structure on which the Pak is standing is weak. They never had a democracy so to say since its independance. What ever patches it had were more of power / money grabbing with the help of the military. They gave the forces a free hand to create the monster of terror without realising that some day they would not be able to control it. It will take several generation for the mind set to erased provided the military back off and stay in their barracks.
RE:Foundation is weak
by Bharat on Feb 18, 2008 10:20 AM Permalink
Democracy has failed in Pakistan, they should think of replacing democracy and dectatorship with some other good system. This system should have check on ruler and think about good of its people and offcourse should be corruption (of all kind) free.
RE:Foundation is weak
by Vikram Khanvilkar on Feb 18, 2008 10:17 AM Permalink
India should take advantage of this situation and break pakistan to chotey chotey chotey chotey tukdey........But alas we have a coward sardar(which is very rare) and a italian women in power with a congressi mindset of peaceful living under terror shadow ."Begging" the cruel war mongrels to stop war ,and make love .Such is the mindset of congress influenced by that "kabutar walla" nehru who was busy releasing pigeons as mark of friendship when china attacked india and occupied 40000 sq km of area in ladakh and aksai chin .
I am happy with Pakistan current situation..!! they spread Terrorist in India and all over the world.. !! Let them face this problem... !! I love the situation in Pakistan.. Let them DIE ... all !! Remove Pak from World Map.
RE:LEt them die.. Let remove pakistan from World MAP.
by Paritosh Sinha on Feb 18, 2008 10:16 AM Permalink
Wishful thinking!!!Both Sandip and Gul appears to be moron ,both living in fool's paradise.Rediff is the only forum where such stupid things can be blogged.Remember Uncle Bush has his hand on Mush's shoulder!
RE:LEt them die.. Let remove pakistan from World MAP.
by sandip jadhav on Feb 18, 2008 10:20 AM Permalink
first tell me your Indian or Pakistan..Its seems that your not Indian... !!! The FUKISTAN will die with their internal war.. all bombblast ... Jai Hind Jai Bharat..
RE:LEt them die.. Let remove pakistan from World MAP.
by Bharat on Feb 18, 2008 10:26 AM Permalink
System is India is not good either.. people are selling human kidneys to foreigner like potato. Marathis are fighting with north Indian..Rajasthanis are attacking a creative artist also on freedome of expression.. Naxals are running their parallel goverment.. China is claiming also accopying indian land.. People are leaving their morals for pursuit of money..farmers are committing suicides.. irrationality is on top. their is no tolerance at all.this not a sign of a great nation and so on...lets face reality and not always live in dream..
