What is this india any way we are talking about? Is it gandhis inida? Is it british India? Is it Muslim India?
What is the vision of this so called India? Is it the constitution .. To like USA ..
What does it mean to be an Indian.. I this we have lost it as Indians .. We are becomeming more a& more materialistic and adopting Western Values.
We have lost touch from our ancient heritage ..It is so SAD, we should be ashamed of this so called modernity we could have done it without destroying the fabric of society.. but we all behaving like dos in the name of progress hankerin after american money , jobs, visas, investments and so caleed globalization , this is why indian is meaning to be less and less.. it has lost its meaning.
Even a so called open counrty like USA, restricts people from migration by putting slab in H1. Even they are worried about local people. Why not we Marathi should be worried?
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by prasoon chaudhary on Feb 16, 2008 10:38 AM Permalink
One line answer - Because MH is not a seperate country..
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by Steve Andrews on Feb 16, 2008 10:19 AM Permalink
Haan Nikhil, tu samajh raha hai tu kya bol raha hai? H1B non-citizens ke liye hai, Indians ko hak hai kahi bhi rehne ka India me, Bombay, marathiyo se nahi, outsiders se bana hai, Marathio ki kya aukat ko mumbai bana lete akele, Gujarati, UP, Bihar, south Indian aur sari Indian states se akar log base Mumbai me. Tujhe samajh aa raha hai tu kya likh raha hai? Indians ko India me kaam karne ke liye H1B chahiye?, Think, dont talk like fools!! Aur Americans are much better than Indians(marathis), kam se kam woh bahar se ane wale logo ki to izzat karte hai, tum(marathi) to apne Indians ki izzat nahi karte ho!! Army me bata kitne marathi hai? maximum people in army are from North India, Agriculture is maximum in North and South India (Maharashtra me nahi), collectively dekh kiska kitna contribution hai. Yeh jo Mumbai menace hai, Yeh national problem hai(being overcrowded). Government has to work to create jobs all over India by divesifying the spread of companies all over nation, so that cities like Mumbai are not over-crowded. Apna Bollywood bhi poora North Indians se bhara hai, bata kitne Marathi hai? To samajh aa raha hai , Kiska kitna contribution hai? Tum marathi yeh topic utha kar sirf India aur Mumbai(maharashtra) ka hi nuksan kar rahe ho aur kuchh nahi
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by Techcool on Feb 16, 2008 10:13 AM Permalink
Dear Nikhil, H1B is different as it deals with peoples from other country. Where as in USA any body from NY can stay independently in LA or SFO. But in India things are different. Here it more of region based than country based.
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by Nikhil on Feb 16, 2008 10:18 AM Permalink
Techcool, think one mre step ahead. Why UP and Bihar people come in MH? Are people like Amar and Mayawati not responsible for this? Why no one is blaming these people in atead of blaiming Marathi people?
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by saurabh dugar on Feb 16, 2008 10:32 AM Permalink
This is a media created issue .dont forget 24 hrs news media is making money off such issues !!!!If u remember they were resposible for a kidnapped boy being killed as kidnappers got scared due to news. Just because media wanted to be 'first' to break news about perils of social networking sites.
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by prasoon chaudhary on Feb 16, 2008 10:36 AM Permalink
Ppl like Amar are also responsible, but reason for blaming is because of non-sense violence which caused death of two person, incidentally, one was Marathi only. who is responsible? I never heard that in Bihar/UP/MH some Bihari/UP opposed Ganesh Puja, which also depicts same strength show!!
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by a c on Feb 16, 2008 11:05 AM Permalink
Is Maharashtra a sovereign,independent country like the US of A ? Does the US put a bar on people belonging to one of its states entering the other one,seeking an employment there or settling there ? Such a stupid argument weakens your case and makes it important for your own community to discard you,not becuase of your regionalism but because of your lack of intelligence on display :-)..surely maharashtrians would not like one amongst them to be perceived as a pure,24 carats idiot who is hellbent on bringing a bad name to their community & state :-)
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by immagina on Feb 16, 2008 11:09 AM Permalink
abey its a matter of another country,US being a nation has a right to accept/reject migrants frm anothr country calld India. this is india, maharashtra is just one state. u CANT have slabs IN the country. u nut! . its against constitution to bar people from migrating.dont hav imaginary expectations th8 people wil be confined to their birthplace for their work. i hope u undrstand this simple english.u boneheaded ass. its sad to kno that people r divided on linguistic lines, aisa hi hai toh lets divide the country on this basis for ever , y do we need INDIA as a whole??
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by true mumbaikar on Feb 16, 2008 10:12 AM Permalink
100% agree with you. It's high time we should have slab for migrants in Mumbai.
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by A S on Feb 16, 2008 10:38 AM Permalink
so you idiot thinks Mahrashtra has become a seperate country ? and it is like US attracting people because of its prosperity. I just wish t he farmers of Vidarbha and industrialist of Nasik who have no workers agree with an anti-national like you.
RE:Even a so called open counrty like USA
by Bhagat Singh on Feb 16, 2008 10:35 AM Permalink
If you think it is right. Then, this logic should apply everywhere. Not only to work in Mumbai. But, also sharing the natural resources, Investment in maharashtra, sharing the food grains and vegetables and also every doctor, lawyer and business person should leave mumbai. Belive in me if this happens, Maharashtra will become worse than somalia, Sudan, euthopia etc... Unity mein strenght hoti hai.
RE:I have heard UP and Bihar people saying
by a c on Feb 16, 2008 11:34 AM Permalink
Right Priya..this idiot is the first one to call Shivaji a terrorist.He has insulted a great patriot and needs to be thrown out of Mumbai :-)
RE:I have heard UP and Bihar people saying
by pwnzorzz on Feb 16, 2008 10:28 AM Permalink
hmm he was a pirate used to rob people, look in history carefuly all the history in mumbai schools have been changed to suit their tastes, marathan dacaoits etc all worked under shivaji.
RE:I have heard UP and Bihar people saying
by am public on Feb 16, 2008 10:49 AM Permalink
Go through all text books in schools all over India. There is a chapter on Chatrapati Shivji. We loved to read his style of war against Moghuls. Why defame Shivaji with comment from some uneducated people? Don't mix Shivaji with your regional politics.
RE:I have heard UP and Bihar people saying
by chandra shekhar on Feb 16, 2008 11:01 AM Permalink
excuse me, if you heard some thing like that from any one, you should go against him right that time, every good citizen of this country loves such persons like shivaji if some one saying any thing wrong of him any one can go against him it is not necessary he should be a particular place. whole community or a geographical area should not be punished for mistake of some anti social elements. I think people like you haven't has idea about any topic you do what you listen from politicians, should ur family punished if you do any thing wrong any where..........
RE:I have heard UP and Bihar people saying
by Manu Sharma on Feb 16, 2008 10:20 AM Permalink
From where you have heard this.Dont spread hatred among people.
RE:I have heard UP and Bihar people saying
by Shridhar on Feb 16, 2008 10:23 AM Permalink
plz don't blame up and bihar people they know how to respect other people. they do not have time to look into such nonsense and only bother about earning their livelihood. please do not spead rumours and behave like a good indian if you consider yourself?
RE:I have heard UP and Bihar people saying
by a c on Feb 16, 2008 11:09 AM Permalink
If Mumbai or Maharashtra is left to people like Nikhil only,the state will become morally and intellectually bankrupt because idiots do not generate wealth,they only generate hatred :-)..right nikhil ?
RE:I have heard UP and Bihar people saying
by Bhagat Singh on Feb 16, 2008 10:31 AM Permalink
Nikhil, You are completely wrong. In fact I have heard marathi was saying like this. It is not the statement given by a sensible person. But, this statement is given by some frustated, and unfappy ppl, irrespective of Marathi, North Indian, UP, Bihar, South Indian or anything else. If few ppl say that does not mean that it's universal statement. Grow Up man. You are talking like a child.
You are giving details about your birth. Why these Bhaiyas and Biharis are being shunted out of their nearby capital Delhi? Now from Patiala? Tomorrow from Kolkata. Assam already started. Kashmir is out-of-bounds to them. It is not because of any particular religion or creed. They live in filthy conditions, make the surrounding filthy, do not bother about the cleanliness of the neighburhood,the door nearby, stack unwanted things outside their homes inconveniencing others. Don't you and me hate such persons? If Mulayam and his sweeper Amar or bahenji are so much interested in them, let them make Lucknow,Kanpur and Agra like Mumbai. And about Lalu. The less said the better. He made Bhiar a dangerous and filthy state and now preaching and threatening about Chhat Pooja! Just give these things a portion of your thought.
RE:Not enough
by a c on Feb 16, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
Rohit,there are problems no doubt.They still do not justify throwing out the UP and Bihar people from any place,Maharashtra included.The same argument extends to Muslims also who,largely,have a poor standard of living,inadequate education and high unemployment rates coupled with dangerous communal tendencies.But they have every right to live in this country which belongs as much to them as us.What is needed is spread of education and a systematic upliftment of poor people.Surely,you would not be having anything against well-educated,civilised and decent people whether they belong to UP or Bihar or any other state.I can understand your frustation seeing the lawlessness and anarchy around you but the route taken by raj Thakrey is neither a solution,nor a long-term settlement of this issue.
Mr. Tarun Vijay, I am a big fan of you. But I disagree with your article this time. If being Indian is enough, what does it mean by a slogan by BSP? "Uttar Pradesh to Jhanki hai, Maharashtra baki hai". Also, why the UP and Bihar people do not get gelled in local culture even after living here for 4-5 generations? Some of my collegues are from UP and Bihar and I have always seen them making fun of Marathi traditions? Why?
RE:Mr. Tarun Vijay
by true mumbaikar on Feb 16, 2008 10:15 AM Permalink
I agree with you. THis is the time to show these people their place - their own states, atleast because of this issue their states will start thinking of development of their states. Why don't these people challenge thier leaders to give them good governance instead of spoiling the culture of our cities.
RE:RE:Mr. Tarun Vijay
by mandook on Feb 16, 2008 10:20 AM Permalink
Do you think that the Governments in Mumbai have given "good" governance? Stop this kind of foolish thinking. Mumbai has been developed to this state of glory by mostly non-Maharashtrians, like Parsees, Gujaratis, Biharis, Rajasthanis, and South Indians. You stupid guys do not have brains to understand this simple truth.
RE:Mr. Tarun Vijay
by D C Shaikh on Feb 16, 2008 10:26 AM Permalink
Mumbai has been developed to this state of glory by mostly non-Maharashtrians, like Parsees, Gujaratis, Biharis, Rajasthanis, and South Indians. ?????? then why not above mentioned places glowing ? we r not fool like u. jay Maharastra
RE:Mr. Tarun Vijay
by mandook on Feb 16, 2008 10:18 AM Permalink
So do Maharashtrians make fun of other persons, for instance about South Indians calling them "sambar vadas" in derogatory sense but at the same time do not fail to throng S I restaurants for relishing the very same dishes! Do not Maharashtrians settled permanently in other states celebrate Ganesh Festival with the same pomp as any one does in Maharashtra? Does a Maharashtrian settled in Jaipur or Jodhpur observe Kadva Chauth? Does one settled in South India observe Pongal? or in Kerala the Onam or Vishu? Stop this kind of stupid thinking, Nikhil!
RE:Mr. Tarun Vijay
by a c on Feb 16, 2008 11:31 AM Permalink
You are right Mandook.You are a "wise mandook" but this chap Nikhil is a "koop mandook".i doubt whether Nikhil will understand the intended pun :-)
RE:Mr. Tarun Vijay
by Rohit ezhuthachan on Feb 16, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
Yes. Mumbai has welcomed many generations of outsiders with open hands. Now a time has come for these outsiders to give it back. It is not Maharashtrians who has made Mumbai what it is today. There are very few Maharashtrain owned companies in Mumbai/Maharashtra , but there more non Maharashtraian owned companies in Mumbai. Have Rajji got the guts to say Gujjus to go away with your establishments and money. Then he will be playing cricket with his 50 goodas(As Pawarji told)One Bhaiya comes..he brings his wife follows. This is unending. To make things streamlined, better say now or never.The need of the hour is wilingness, which Rajji has got it. Keep up the antenae, we are all with you
RE:Mr. Tarun Vijay
by Shridhar on Feb 16, 2008 11:26 AM Permalink
the slogan is given by a political party who wants to go national. so let thackerays and congress bother about it and you bother about voting to your beloved party, that is how u r going to make diference and all of us as a voter am i right? and not by creating hatred between two groups. don't marathi people make fun of upiites and biharis. but it should be taken in a lighter sense and not to loose sleep over such funny matters. understood nikhl?
You are sure to fail in political life, Tarun Vijay. You are totally unfit for getting a ticket for being even an MLA ! How can it be enough ? If you have to succeed in carving out votes for yourself please follow the sole Mantra .... divide, divide & divide .... keep dividing people in one name or the other & keep ruling on the vast land of dead innocent children, raped mothers, slaughtered ambitions ...
... and then Mother India will not be ashamed to commit suicide.
Narrow politics oneday will hurt millions if this regional mentality spreads across the world too. so many of us settled in different countries. their leaders also play regional card then INDIANS WILL EXPERIENCE
So now, after incidences of people blonging to UP and Bihar are beaten up, he realises that being an Indian is not enough. He didn't realise that when six women were stripped raped and burnt in Public, he didn't realise that when a tribal girl was sripped and chased on a public road. HOW MEAN MEN CAN BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:So now he realises
by Rohit ezhuthachan on Feb 16, 2008 10:21 AM Permalink
On New Year day when one girl was stripped in Mumbai the BIG Brothers shielded them. Called them to their Ministrial offices, told them Dont worry. Main Hoo Nah . Made public statement ' Marathi manoos will not do this' They had asmita about Marathis then. No one including Bajrang Dal or RSS raised any voice.And these Womens wing of Senas who go and blacken faces, blackened themselves this time. Have they got any face to show now? Talk big Tarun. And Manju.. Don't say how mean men are.. Halo Not all men.. There are other persons other than your father, brother and husband who are men enough to stop such things. OK??
RE:So now he realises
by mandook on Feb 16, 2008 10:22 AM Permalink
Do not mix up issues, Manjula. The incidents are on different platforms altogether.
RE:RE:So now he realises
by a c on Feb 16, 2008 11:36 AM Permalink
U sure are a wise mandook.The lady is mixing things up only to skirt the real issue.
Tarun Vijay you are saying, Is being Indian not enough? correct, then why Uttarpradesh Din in Maharashtra?, as we are celebrating independance day and republic day
RE:Is being Indian not enough?
by SR GUPTA on Feb 16, 2008 10:40 AM Permalink
Dear Patil
For your kind information, your own beloved leader Mr. Uddhav Thackeray participated in the function. Why he did not object at that time itself and rejected the invitation. Why?? Pl. ask him. Since Mr. Uddhav was invited there, Raj felt insulted and therefore started this whole issue. Otherwise nobody was talking about such nonsense issues. Their other severe problem confronting this city which Mr. Raj never raised.
RE:Is being Indian not enough?
by Shridhar on Feb 16, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
so what if UPDin is celebrated in maharashtra. after all we all are indians and can celebrate any festivel/state honours anywhere in the country. and yes it should not be hyped to create hatred between groups.
RE:Hypocracy !!
by a c on Feb 16, 2008 11:37 AM Permalink
You haven't understood the irony of his argument.That way he has also written that being an Indian is a "ghate ka sauda".
