>>>>>>>>>>>God didnt create religions he just created single religion to worship one God.........god did not create any religion. The religions were created by vested interests to befool the gullible masses.
The so-called holy books are creations of surrealistic visionaries and are no more serious than Gulliver's Travels or Aesop's Fables. There is no proof for the existence of any god! The human race did not originate with Adam or Eve. It came into existence thru millions of years of evolution.
RE:@ Farooq
by Farooq on Feb 13, 2008 03:34 PM Permalink
avinash i think you are talking about the Theory of Evolution by charles darwin..my friend let me inform you theory of evelution is a historic lie there is no evidence of eveolution and there are millions of years of fossiles found ..even the european schools are rejecting it and removing it from thier sylabbus and taking in atlas of creation...about the religion thing which you are telling that was created by man i will not say anything to you i would just say to buy quran in english of darussalm publishers and read it your self to know wether it is man's book?
RE:@ Farooq
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:38 PM Permalink
Dear Farooq, I have read 2 versions of The Koran (English translatins) and I know for sure what its contents are. If I reproduce some portion of The Koran on this discussion board, it will go for automatic abuse report!!!!!!!
RE:RE:@ Farooq
by Farooq on Feb 13, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink
i know where you learned that quran ..this time do a honest aproach buy a english quran orlese i will send it to you for free just give me your postal adress
RE:@ Farooq
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:41 PM Permalink
Here is a sample of some intolerance in The Koran: Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom.--3:4
Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6
Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10
Allah mocks the unbelievers, "leaving them to wander blindly." 2:15
Allah has blinded the disbelievers. 2:17-18
A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
"Whosoever hath done evil and his sin surroundeth him; such are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:81
If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 90
Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61
Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66
RE:RE:@ Farooq
by Farooq on Feb 13, 2008 03:47 PM Permalink
man let me claryfy for your kind of IQ person...let me give you an example say that your boss has given you some work and he told you to finsh that in a weeks time , what will happen if you dont complete that thing at all obvious he will fire you, here the thing is that you are not even doing your boss work but your helping the other company then your boss so obvious you will be prosecuted by your boss ...same way this life on earth is just test for the here after if you dont oblidge to gods command he is definately going to punish you and if you oblidge then you will get what you have never dreamt off
RE:@ Farooq
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
Mr. Farooq, then what happens to the small children who die and still borns????? Why the "most merciful allah" did not allow him to complete his work?????
RE:@ Farooq
by Farooq on Feb 13, 2008 03:40 PM Permalink
abinav go to harunyahya(dot)com to clarify your missconception and mis quotes ...you will get correct answers there its very simple to find the answers its in detail there ...quran totally compatable with current science
I don't want to hear the same old cliche. Pl state very clearly whether the words "Islam" or "Muslim" appear anywhere in the Old Testament or New Testament.
RE:@ Jemima
by kishore on Feb 13, 2008 03:17 PM Permalink
there was no word called ISLAM or Muslim in the arab world.They were the descendants of Abraham/Ibrahim until Prof.Mohammad. The children of Ismail have become Muslims & the children of Issac are Jews/Israel.The Egyptians were not Muslims(they worshiped other gods).The Persians also were not Muslims.They were forced to convert to islam just like Aurangazeb did. and the funniest part is there is Children of the same ancestors fight among them selves. The muslims doent want to accept that Jews are their relatives
Ss there any reference to "Islam" in the Old Testament or New Testament? You people alawys claim that the generation from Adam and Eve are Muslims but there are no reference to "Muslim" or "Islam" in these books.
RE:A question to my muslim friends
by Lotan Potan on Feb 13, 2008 03:03 PM Permalink
There are various references to various false prophets coming and corrupting the message of Christ in new and old testaments.
RE:RE:A question to my muslim friends
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:05 PM Permalink
I am not talking about Prophets. Is there any word "Muslim" or "Islam" in those books???????
RE:A question to my muslim friends
by V S on Feb 13, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
you are just an RSS fan.
while you are hell bent on pointing flaws in Islam you seem to be ignoring the ills of rampant discrimination , communalism and casteism in today's hinduism.
RE:A question to my muslim friends
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:11 PM Permalink
When you don't have any answer accuse others of being RSS man. No religious fanatic (hindu, muslim or christian or any other) will dare to mess up with the organization I believe in or support.
RE:A question to my muslim friends
by Hail Humanity on Feb 13, 2008 03:12 PM Permalink
Learn a bit of real history, you fools and brainwasted idiots.Where are the words like "Hindu" and "Hinduism" in your myth-making scriptures.And who told the "christians" that there religion is "christianity"? Are these words in the Bible? Is the word "Bible" there in the Bible? Are "new testament" and "old testament" in the Bible? For that matter , Does the Bible contain any gospel "according to Jesus Christ"?Who told you that his name is "Jesus Christ"?Alas fools are too many, and workers are few.
RE:A question to my muslim friends
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:17 PM Permalink
yes I agree with you that Islam means "submission to God" but it was a term used by Mohammed as a unique selling point. There was no religion called Islam till Mohammed was about 40 years. So don't try to fool others!
RE:RE:A question to my muslim friends
by kishore on Feb 13, 2008 03:14 PM Permalink
there was no word called ISLAM or Muslim in the arab world.They were the descendants of Abraham/Ibrahim until Prof.Mohammad. The children of Ismail have become Muslims & the children of Issac are Jews/Israel.The Egyptians were not Muslims(they worshiped other gods).The Persians also were not Muslims.They were forced to convert to islam just like Aurangazeb did. and the funniest part is there is Children of the same ancestors fight among them selves. The muslims doent want to accept that Jews are their relatives
RE:I want to start a new religion..............
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:03 PM Permalink
No discrimination. 144 dark and handsome hunks! Will that suffice?
RE:I want to start a new religion..............
by Lotan Potan on Feb 13, 2008 03:04 PM Permalink
No, without discrimination, your religion cannot rival Islam? After all Allah created men superior to women as man is provider of food clothing and sheltor. How ccan you give same number of vigin men to females?
Islam situates itself in history. It clearly says that it is in the line of "Truth" - the spread of which was first bestowed on prophet Adam - the first man on earth.What Islam seeks is to call the people from wrongs of life to a "staright path" free from any kind of negativity.Life,as Islam sees it, is a trust given to us by God to be used in a manner which is in conformity with ideals and teachings of the Quran.Since Islam establishes direct relatiuonship between man and the creator,he should try to reflect and come to the conclusion of what is Truth in the din of competeing religions.But his decision will have its effetc - in the hereafter.
RE:Islam and the world
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 02:56 PM Permalink
Dear Hail Humanity, is there any reference to "Islam" in the Old Testament or New Testament? You people alawys claim that the generation from Adam and Eve are Muslims but there are no reference to "Muslim" or "Islam" in these books.
Islam is an arabic word that means "Total submission of your will to God". It is the same message give to all since Adam through innumerable messengers of God.
Over the time these messages got corrupted and thus the need for messengers from time to time. But with Islam God say that HE has compleated HIS message to the mankind and has perfected HIS religion.
Islam invites all the pupil of Book to cross check what they have been practicing and what according to GOD is THE TRUTH.
BUT GOD also says that it is HE who choses to bestow HIS mercy and show the right path and if he doesnt wish then none can see the TRUTH.
So all we need to do is ask for GUIDANCE from our true CREATOR.
RE:Islam and the world
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:14 PM Permalink
Mr.Mohammed Abdul Sami, yes I agree with you that Islam means "submission to God" but it was a term used by Mohammed as a unique selling point. There was no religion called Islam till Mohammed was about 40 years. So don't try to fool others!
RE:Islam and the world
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 04:05 PM Permalink
Mohammed was a tribal leader trying to establish his rule in the Arabian Peninsula. The so-called revealations were the concoctions to motivate his followers (with all those rewards in Paradise or cruel Punishments in hell, etc). The poor fellow could think of woman, wine, water, fruits, etc even in "Paradise" !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great!, and what did he ""earned"" in return according to you...
pupil of arab were followers of religion of Abraham even before prophet muhammad came...atleast what those pupil thought...even before prophet muhammad came those pupil would say 'Allah' meaning the only one..was the supreme god...but additionally they were worshipping more than 1000 'other' god..and in the name of those gods..they were earing money doing great business...
their opposiion to prophet muhammads teaching was primarily because of the reason that they will lose their business and lose theier so called freedom to do anything what they thought was right....
here no body is fooling anybody...there is no force..prophet muhammad lived as an oridinary citizen till the age of 40...and NEVER did he lied ...he was so trustworthy that the pupil of Mecca eventhough they disagreed with his teaching and his message...they never ever claimed that he can any time Lie....
ISLAM is invitation to truth...islam never spread by force...if it were true...today more than a billion would not have held on to their faith...today islam in these difficult time would not have been the fastest growing religion among the americans and europeans...??
it is God who has created everything which man seen and which man cannot see..who wills whome to bestow his guidance with...
to Mr.Lotan Potan...
Islam emphasis so much on having a good name..my name means "slave of the supreme almighty
RE:RE:Islam and the world
by Mohammed Abdul Sami on Feb 13, 2008 03:41 PM Permalink
Because they are the one who fail to recognise HIS at first place..and second they oppose HIS message...
GOD is the CREATOR of each and everything you see and things you cannot see...Being the Supreme CREATOR HE can bestow you with HIS mercy and the same time punish you with HIS wrath....
HE can do anything HE wishes..and there is nothat that can stop HIM...
therefore being HIS creation all we need to do is THANK HIM for his Mercy and fear HIM alone....
RE:Islam and the world
by Farooq on Feb 13, 2008 03:21 PM Permalink
lotan ..God didnt create religions he just created single religion to worship one God..and he did not chnaged and corrupted his messages but the people did it for thier fancies...thats why he just corrected all of them with a error free quran
RE:RE:Islam and the world
by Jemima on Feb 13, 2008 03:05 PM Permalink
Dear Avinash, The meaning of Islam is submission to one God. Islam is not a new religion. It is the same religion what Adam followed, what Moses followed, what Jesus followed. The entire humanity is indeed from Adam and Eve, not just Muslims. Hope this answers your question. Thanks
RE:Islam and the world
by Avinash on Feb 13, 2008 03:06 PM Permalink
Dear Jemima, I don't want to hear the same old cliche. Pl state very clearly whether the words "Islam" or "Muslim" appear anywhere in the Old Testament or New Testament.
