wat the hell we guys are doing over here....friends dont spread hatred amongst us.....its illogical to discuss such things....india is a free country and we have rights to work anywhere we want....Mr. r. Thackrey needs an issue to increase his his vote base and it seems that he is doing his job successfully as we are unable to understand his pray. lets not get indulged in such discussion and lets keep our calm kool....everything will be alright in coming days....
RE:wat the hell
by on Feb 12, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
Dont give political touch to this aggitation . its question of servival of Marathi in our Mumbai.
RE:wat the hell
by on Feb 12, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
sir....u r not smart unough to understand this issue...if u consider it as agitation then i'm sorry to say...u need to introspect
RE:wat the hell
by s g on Feb 12, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
get lost fool. mumbai belongs to india first. India comes first, then comes maharashtra. and the borders of maharashtra state dont mean anything in India.
Friends we r just saying and not knowing the exact issue. living outside Maharastra and saying Raj thakare should be kislled is follish. I live in pune and i have allways helped people outside maharashtra. As per issue i have seen lot of outsiders making mess of lot of Public property. I can say only one think ""Jiska Jalta Hai OOsko Samazta Hai"". So if u dont live in Maharashtra (i call people who live in maharashtra as maharastrians) just post on the issues that u r aware off
RE:RE:What is the issue?
by bali thakur on Feb 12, 2008 08:51 PM Permalink
Oye..Maharashtrian,
First tell me, is there any difference in manufacturing of Maharashtrian and outsiders. Make one thing very much clear that we all are Indians first and after that for others. It doesn't matter where u r living in India. And for God sake, forget about Castism. Try to maintain UNITY amongst ourselves. Live in present not in past and future.
RE:What is the issue?
by on Feb 12, 2008 08:15 PM Permalink
sir not all biharis and UP people are the same, i'm in pune since last 6 years, have studied over here and got a job....i love pune as much as you do....and people from outside are not only who make a mess over here....pls look around yourself and introspect honestly
The Raj Thakrey drama is mostly about Mumbai. Mumbai is located in Marathi speaking area, hence it is capital of a linguistic state called Maharastra. (Nothing wrong in it). Mumbai was developed from scratch by British colonisers because of port and its strategic location, protected by hillocks and creaks. Parsi (mainly located in near by Gujrati area) was invited by Britishers to become partener in Bombay project. Gujrati traders and sindhi traders (muslims - khoja, shia, bhohras, etc.,) having freindly relation with Parsis were subsequently allowed to settled. After opening of Suez Canal, Bombay (Mumbai) became an important trade centre. The big factories (mills) needed huge labour force. The local marathi speaking fishermen community could not provide enough work force. Migration from adjoining areas including Pune, Surat, Nasik to Mumbai got accelerated. mumbai started attracting Trading community from distant Rajasthan and Saurastra, followed by other distant states, viz., Punjab, UP, Bihar, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and AP after Independence. Almost all big industries shifted their headquarters to Mumbai during the period. Now it has become financial capital of India, just as Delhi is political capital As no one state or community can claim exclusive right over Delhi, no one (including marathi people) can claim exclusive right over Mumbai. All those living in or intend to live in Mumbai have equal right over its all resources (including Jobs.) Shiv Sena or MN
RE:Historical and Geographical facts about Mumbai.
by Ardeshir Modi on Feb 12, 2008 08:52 PM Permalink
I tend to agree with Sanjay. Bombay was a state that was a mixture of Gujerat and Maharashtra. I wish the Indian government had left it as that. But now that the seperation has been done are we forgetting that we are INDIANs after all. If India were to be broken up in different countries and Maharashtra were to become a country then Mumbai will be a seperate country too like Singapore due to the structure and build up of a variety of cultures that reside here over a period in time. Do we want that. By causing these petty clashes we are allowing the other forces like terrorism to become stronger and we weaker and so if we do not come together we will be destroyed by them. Think people, think, do want that situation to happen. We fought the British out of India as INDIANS and not based on our various religions. Bengalis, North Indians, Parsis, Gujeratis, Maharashtrians, Muslims, and all other religions came together for the call of freedom and we won. Bomb blasts and we help each other we do not see religion then so then why now. WE ARE INDIANS and I am proud to be one. JAI HIND
RE:Historical and Geographical facts about Mumbai.
by jadhav on Feb 12, 2008 10:12 PM Permalink
YOUR FOREFATHERS WERE APPROPRIATED KICKED OUT OF PERSIA AND YOU WANT OUR TERRITORY NOW? OR YOU WNAT US TO BEHAVE LIEK TERROSITS.
RE:Historical and Geographical facts about Mumbai.
by Veja Biral on Feb 12, 2008 08:15 PM Permalink
Each state capital give preference to locals, why not maharastra as a state??????????
RE:RE:Historical and Geographical facts about Mumbai.
by on Feb 12, 2008 08:32 PM Permalink
now do you need reservations for taxi drivers, security guards and such jobs....
RE:The core issue is Caste politics in India...
by prakash jha on Feb 12, 2008 08:12 PM Permalink
thats the reson i think a constitution should draft a bipolar party norms..so that if not controlled at least these castism can be checked
by shivesh kumar,jharkhand as far as ur opinion is concerned, it's right that marathi should get job in maharastra.But the way situation is now being handled or created by poltician,can and should not be supported.we are proud to be an indian but it's really very bad when differentiation is done on the basis of region or cast in india itself by any INDIAN.mumbai or pune has got geographical advantage over other place , surrounded by ocean,it is really hot spot for exporter or importer.but u r forgetting that other states are also contributing. ex. natural resources like iron ore , coal,bauxite are in huge amount in jharkhand,it contribute 40 -45 % of natural resources, foodgrains like wheat, rice from punjab, so india's progress can't be imagine without other state. u don't know about situation in bihar.....for more than 6 months most part of the bihar ,where irrigation is main source of income are flooded with water. so they are left with no choice but to come out from state. and definitly no company is going to set up their plant , if they don't have geographical,economical advantage. reliance company MD, both brother are from west , but are they not contributing in development of mumbai and hence india. there are so many names.............i think it's useless now,to discuss about all this........WE WERE RULED BY BRITISHES NOW RULED BY POLTICIAN...............
RE:indias fighting with other indian and still we say india is great......shame
by on Feb 12, 2008 08:41 PM Permalink
You have written this since U are one of bihari
RE:indias fighting with other indian and still we say india is great......shame
by vinay thakur on Feb 12, 2008 09:26 PM Permalink
And you dont want to accept logical things because you are one of marathi!
I have visisted almost all states in India. The current status is:
Kerala - c/o Gulf Tamilnadu - Ask Cauvery Andhra Pradesh - Telangana movement Karnataka - Ask Cauvery Bihar,UP - Their weapons are sophisticated than Indian Army's Bengal - Chinese will listen. Seven sister states - Instant death if you are non-assamese. Punjab - Khalistan Kashmir - Kidding? Rajasthan - They call you 'Paradesi'. Maharastra - Vidarbha movement. UP - Bundelkhand, Poorvanchal etc Chattisgarh - c/o Maoism ...
RE:I have visisted almost all states in India.
by subodh tandon on Feb 12, 2008 08:37 PM Permalink
m.p. is safe so pl look towards m.p. and relocate your factories and make prosperous madhya pradesh
1. 52% of all temple staff including pujaris should be from OBC communities. 2. 29% temple staff including pujaris should be from Dalits and Tribals. 3. Remaining all temple staff including pujaris should be from other castes.
Also render PUJAS in regional or local language instead of sanskrit.
I have found Marathi people in Varanasi, Indore, Jhansi, Kanpur, Gwalior, Panipat, Surat, Rameshwaram, Hyderabad, to name a few places outside Maharashtra. They have been rulers, celebrate Ganesh festivals and carry their culture at the place of their residence. Local people like them and admire them. They have been academicians, film makers, artists and have excelled in many fields. President of India is a Marathi. The spread of violence against non Marathis is instigated, planned, systematic, hatred is being spread and political. No Bihari or UP-wala has snatched any job or any opportunity from any one least of all from a Marathi. They have occupied a space vacated by the Marathi Manoos. Regional parties survive on the oxygen of hatread and nationalism is the first casualty.
RE:MAHARASHTRA VIOLENCE
by a a on Feb 12, 2008 08:23 PM Permalink
Sir. That's correct. And Not even 5 percent Marathis are with RAJ. And there is a feeling of helplessness. What can we do, we marathis are as frustrated as you are due to this nonsense.
RE:MAHARASHTRA VIOLENCE
by on Feb 12, 2008 08:34 PM Permalink
How many percentage Marathi u found out of Maharashtra???? its few with compare to UPwala & Bihari in Maharashta. They are celebrating Ganesha Chaturthi but in absent of Politiacal leaeders. Chatpooja is always celebrating with their so called leaders like Lallu, Amarsingh , to show their strengh in mumbai . This is not acceptable. I am not belongs to MNS / SS , but if the issue of servival of Marathi then all marathi manus has to support to Raj.
RE:MAHARASHTRA VIOLENCE
by a a on Feb 12, 2008 08:42 PM Permalink
Dude. I live in the USA and there are a lot of Marathis here including me. They are present in every major city. In Banglore, Hyd, Delhi,Chennai, M.P. Gte your facts corrected. And if we stop migrants then we will collapse. It's not an empty fear. Migration makes a place vibrant and everybody migrates. In fact human history is based on migration.
UP and Bihar have produced maximum criminals and maximum corrupt and characterles leaders. That is why they have produced inefficient and goondas who after finishing UP and Bihar are now targetting other states.
Their idiot leaders come to Mumbai and educate these goondas to destroy Maharashtra.
North indians are wel come but they should leave behind their leaders and senseless culture.
Looks like Indians need a work visa in MH and all the Mafia, smugglers, drug peddlars and illegal immigrants from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Dubai can live and work without visa....this is one of the many idiotic expressions, which happens only in India.
As long as people can buy in to these idiots....more goons will be coming like this who wants to divide Indians further and exploit them.
