I feel the views expressed by JGN (whoever he may be)are not at all relevant to the points covered in this article. He should certainly not have been allowed so much space. The editors shoud exercise some restraints on such irrelevant opinions Taral
Chapman Cohen, in his "Theism or Atheism," clearly states: "We know that man does not discover God, he invents him, and an invention is properly discarded when a better instrument is forthcoming. To-day, the hypothesis of God stands in just the same relation to the better life of to-day as the fire drill of the savage does to the modern method of obtaining a light. The belief in God may continue awhile in virtue of the lack of intelligence of some, of the carelessness of others, and of the conservative character of the mass. But no amount of apologizing can make up for the absence of genuine knowledge, nor can the flow of the finest eloquence do aught but clothe in regal raiment the body of a corpse."
Religion arose as a means of explanation of natural phenomena at a time when no other explanation of the origin of natural phenomena had been ascertained. God is always what Spinoza called it, "the asylum of ignorance." When causes are unknown, God is brought forward; when causes are known, God retires into the background. In an age of ignorance, God is active; in an age of science, he is impotent. History attests this fact.
RE:Man invented Gods!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by hanek singh on Feb 22, 2008 01:47 AM Permalink
MY DEAR FRIEND, SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO OUT OF YOUR OWN CONVICTION AND EXPERIENCE . DO NOT SOUND PEDANTIC BY QUOTING FROM OBSCURE AUTHORS ON METAPHYSICS IF YOU WANT A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EXISTANCE OF GOD THREE ARE OTHER FORUMS . DONOT CUT AND PASTE OTHERS MATERIAL HERE IT IS NOT IN THE BEST TRADITION OF SCHOLARSHIP, HOWEVER THIS IS THE BANE ON INDIAN STUDENTS THESE DAYS
Man has been living on this planet some 500,000 years. Jesus appeared just about 2000 years ago to save mankind. What of those countless millions of men that died before Christ came to save the world from damnation? If the Christian creed, that except a man believes in the Lord Jesus Christ he cannot be saved, is maintained, then it must be that those millions of human beings who lived before Christ and had no chance to believe, are in hell-fire.
A Christian will admit that the gods of others are man-made, and that their creed is similar to the worship of the savage. He looks at their gods with the vision of a civilized being; but when he looks at his own god, he forgets his civilization, he relapses centuries of time, and his mental viewpoint is that of the savage.
Christianity, with its primitive concepts, can make its adherents firm in the belief of great monstrosities. When its adherents believed that the Bible sanctioned the destruction of heretics and witches, they were certainly doing things from a Christian standpoint. It was this standpoint that justified an embittered denunciation of evolution at one time and then recanting, adopted it as a part of the Bible teaching. When the Spaniards blotted out an entire civilization in South America, when Catholics butchered Protestants, or Protestants butchered Catholics, they were all justified from the Christian standpoint.
The degrading picture of womankind as depicted in the Old Testament is well known to anyone who has glanced through this storehouse of mythology. It would be well for the multitude of devout female adherents of all creeds to take the time, just a little of the time they give to the plight of the poor, benighted heathen and read some of the passages in the Old Testament dealing with their lot. The entire history of woman under the administration of these "heaven-made" laws is a record of her serviture and humility.
In the 24th chapter of Deuteronomy we find the right of divorce given to the husband. "Let him write her a bill of divorcement and give it in her hand and send her out of his house." The discarded wife must acquiesce to "divine justice." But if the wife is displeased, is there any justice? Under no clause of the Divorce Law could the wife have a divorce on her part. None but the husband could put her asunder from him.
In the 22d chapter of Deuteronomy is enacted the law for "Test of Virginity," which states that, "If any man take a wife, and is disappointed in her, and reports, 'I found her not a maid,' then, her father and mother shall bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate." The gynecological elders then go into a "peeping Tom's" conference and "If virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of the city shall stone her with stones
RE:Women in Christianity
by Manjula A on Feb 16, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
All whites whether Aryans or Semitics, seem to believe in such things. Does the above narrated chapter not remind one of the Agni Pariksha in Ramayan? Aryans were definitely whites and the Aryan version of Hindu religion is most definitely semetic in nature.
RE:Women in Christianity
by JGN on Feb 16, 2008 12:49 PM Permalink
They are all parts of the traditions of an earlier generation of migrants who spread from Africa to various parts of the world. There are many similarities in the beliefs of various religions the world over!
RE:Women in Christianity
by bullseye on Feb 16, 2008 01:22 PM Permalink
christianity have full of pit falls in its core fundamental itself.bible says christ is a 'bright morning star' in one verse and in another verse as ''bright evening star''not realising venus is the brightest planet appearing both in morning and evening.same venus god was known in rome period as ''diana' which st paul changed to mary. satan,is none but an angel appeared as serpent to induce adam and eve to eat forbitten fruit and hence was pulled down to earth which fell and is called as satan. angel lucifer (later known as satan) is venus according to christianity.in short christ vs satan is nothing but venus vs venus. mother mary who was earlier known as diana was portrayed as venus by rome people.so mother is also venus.it is true that venus influence western culture,western faith astrologicaly. last year only pope granted salvation to children below 7 years not bapitised before the birth of jesus and hence kept in a place called ''limbo ''was sent by present pope to heaven. similarly people bapitised but committed sins who are kept in a state called ''purgator''was also sent to heaven by present pope.it looks vatigan meetings and announcements are like commercial limited company board meetings and its yearly dividend.previous pope denied the arrivel of st.thomas to south india said he came up to pakisthan/west punjab which invited trouble from indian christians brethen for worshipping st thomas tomb in chennai.
Religion is not the product of civilized man. Man inherits his god just as he inherits his physical qualities. The idea of a supernatural being creating and governing this earth is a phantom born in the mind of the savage. If it had not been born in the early stages of man's mental development, it surely would not come into existence now. History proves that as the mind of man expands, it does not discover new gods, but that it discards them. It is not strange, therefore, that there has not been advanced a new major religious belief in the last 1400 years. All modern religious conceptions, no matter how disguised, find their origin in the fear-stricken ignorance of the primitive savage.
The Egyptian trinities are well known: thus, from Amun by Maut proceeds Khonso; from Osiris by Isis proceeds Horus; from Neph by Saté proceeds Anouké. The Egyptians had propounded the dogma that there had been divine incarnations, the fall of man, and redemption.
In India, centuries before Christianity, we find the Hindu trinity; Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva. In the Institutes of Manu, a code of civil law as well as religious273 law, written about the ninth century before Christ, is found a description of creation, the nature of God, and rules for the duty of man in every station of life from the moment of birth to death.
When one considers the similarity of ancient pagan legends and beliefs with Christian traditions if one believes with Justin Martyr, then indeed the Devil must have been a very busy person to have caused these pagans to imitate for such long ages and in such widespread localities the Christian mysteries. Indeed, Edward Carpenter comments, "One has only, instead of the word "Jesus'"to read Dionysis or Krishna or Hercules or Osiris or Attis, and instead of "Mary" to insert Semele or Devaki or Alcmene or Neith or Nona, and for Pontius Pilate to use the name of any terrestrial tyrant who comes into the corresponding story, and lo! the creed fits in all particulars into the rites and worship of a pagan God.
