RE:Read the story of Saurav Kalia who was brutally tortured, murdered by Pakis
by Onie on Feb 11, 2008 03:21 AM Permalink
Tathagata what do you suggest should be done? Nuke Pakistan? Sorry - not an option they have nukes too. What would you do if it was your decision? Give a suggestion of what should be done, don't just make meaningless noises like a politician.
RE:Read the story of Saurav Kalia who was brutally tortured, murdered by Pakis
by aryan on Feb 11, 2008 04:15 AM Permalink
if they nuke us we will still survive but we nuke them, pakisthan will be wiped out from the world map...
RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by shahab khan on Feb 11, 2008 02:16 AM Permalink
did u ever reported about the bribes you take from people?? did u ever broke a law? you playing all sought of games to save few hundred rupees from TAX. and u say u r an Indian..shame on u? if u were a true indian then u wont comment on Muslims in such a nasty manner..it shows ur ill-mind and ill-heart which is full of RSS ideology..which is based on HATE.
RE:RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:25 AM Permalink
my dear friend Shahab, there is no use of telling them about what is good or bad. they are just filthy holes filled with anti-islamic sentiments.
They can ask anything about islamic in a pathetic manner which hurts relgious sentiments, but when i asked them about authenticity of their religion no one gave clear answer for a single question and reported abuse for my posts. there is no use here. do go in this forum more.
i am leaving and going for sleep. u too do the same as it is of no use, they wont listen, they just keep on barking like an astray dog
RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:47 AM Permalink
thats y one jehadi fights people who can outnumber him, and RSS fight by outnumbering people
RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by india salute on Feb 11, 2008 03:18 AM Permalink
Hi Francis Alvarez, I have gone through your few post and I think your education is from a madrasa and your brain is washed by Imam. Here topic is terrorist activity (Militants involved in IISc, CRPF camp attacks arrested) and it was found that all people arrested are from Islam community. I'm not saying all muslim is bad because there are good muslim like Abdul Kalam, Premji etc. How do you compare traffic law with terrorist activity? It is so foolish. I think you should know different kind of law like crininal law, cvil law etc..I think you should first go to some civilized good school for education ( NOT IN MADRASA) and then come to a forum for any discussion..
RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Onie on Feb 11, 2008 03:24 AM Permalink
Good points - until Muslims start getting as outraged at other Muslims suiciding bombing innocent men and women in the name of Islam as they do at the length of Sania Mirza's tennis uniform, they cannot start winning the affection of other faiths.
RE:RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by shahab khan on Feb 11, 2008 05:34 AM Permalink
yeah u r right Mr.Onie..sania's dress code doesnt match Islamic standard...and so do urs??? not only me but whole India will love to watch ur daughter in two piece swim suit if she get selected in national swimming competition..may be ur religion allow her to wear swim suits
RE:RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 01:58 AM Permalink
muslims are dare to do much more things and they can do and they have done it. but our discussion was not going on this topic. dont come up with out of discussion topics
RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:22 AM Permalink
are u really a indian? If we keep aside traffic rules also, there are many criminal activities going around us. have u ever reported it to any authority
RE:RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Onie on Feb 11, 2008 03:29 AM Permalink
Francis - one can only report if one knows about the crime. If I knew where Dawood lives, I promise I would call the police LOL. The real point is not that - the real point is that how come more Muslims are not vocally outraged by Muslim terrorists who blow up innocents in the name of Islam. How come the same Muslims are violently offended if some Danish newspaper carries some cartoons? I mean where is their sense of proportion - that is the question being raised and it is a valid question.
RE:Reply required from so called good, moderate, rational and forward (bla.. bla.. bla..) minded Muslims
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 01:56 AM Permalink
do u inform authorities for even a single law break or even one who break the traffic rules? Are u a real indian?
Muslims should do everything, tell me have u ever done?
RE:What Indians want
by shahab khan on Feb 11, 2008 02:24 AM Permalink
Mr. Indian.Your comments express what u have in ur heart. it was ABDUL HAMEED who blew up Pakistani Tanks ..and had sacrified his life for the country.. Go and check in kashmir..on the front its Muslims who are fighting with terrorists.
If u support LTTE or ULFA then u r called seperists..if a muslim just fight in a street u people term him a terrorists.
who ever u are..i want u to study Islam first and then comment...i offer u "do read Quran" and then i m sure u will embrass Islam.
i challenge u to read Quran first..and then u will be ashamed of ur own words which u have used here.
RE:What Indians want
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:49 AM Permalink
i know from where will u quote it, from wikipedia or any such unauthentic site. if u really read the quraan, then tell me how long it took the quraan to get completed
RE:What Indians want
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:00 AM Permalink
why not hindu criminals. Hindu criminal are infact known world wide from ancient times.
RE:What INDIA should do
by shahab khan on Feb 11, 2008 02:28 AM Permalink
do u know worlds fastest growing relogion is islam and that too aftr 9/11. the most powerfull country USA is registering more than 400/day non-muslims are embrassing Islam..WHY??? B'coz they r not coward, they read and want to know before making any comments u can check by yourself on YOUTUBE...IN SEARCH JUST TYPE MUSLIMS in USA and u will get the answere..
RE:What INDIA should do
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:30 AM Permalink
no body reports of genocide of indian muslims in kashmir by indian soldiers
RE:Can anybody tell like Francis Alvarez
by shahab khan on Feb 11, 2008 02:36 AM Permalink
My Dear if islam was forcefully spread..as u people says spread by sword.. then tell me WHY YOU WERE LEFT. 1000 years are not a small period. The hindu population 80% in India itself speaks.
if it was through sword then one would have found Hindus only in History Books.
open up ur mind..and accept the truth.; so instead of dividing country another time please come together in the growth on our mother land.. dont do anti-indian criminals things. whether a muslim or a hindu..do live in peace n love.
RE:Can anybody tell like Francis Alvarez
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:04 AM Permalink
no islamic ruler in india or anywher in world have forced anyone to accept islam. if it was, then tell me there was islamic rule in india for around 500 years, but still y there are more than 80% nonmuslims over here.
And by the way what aryans have done when they came to India?
RE:RE:Can anybody tell like Francis Alvarez
by shahab khan on Feb 11, 2008 02:39 AM Permalink
Mr. shekhar..I insist u to read Quran firts and then qoute ur comments..if u hv no knowledge then dont act to be a smarter.
what about ur religious books...?? so better u study ur books firts.
RE:Francis Alvarez , a hidden name is misleadin the innocents, HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by amit on Feb 11, 2008 02:03 AM Permalink
i am sure you are a RSS cadre,with RSS idiology, provoking us start communal rights.. if you have wasted that much time to figure out from 622AD until 2008..then better you would have also followed ahimsa...Path of Mahatma Gandhi...with sadachar, and non-corrupt society.
RE:Francis Alvarez , a hidden name is misleadin the innocents, HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by shahab khan on Feb 11, 2008 02:53 AM Permalink
Mr.shekhar what about Pandavs???
can you please throw some light upon Draupdi..sharing 5 husbands???
why Lord Krishna shows the path of stealing???
why Lord Krishna want to kill kauravs..and those also by their own brothers???
which God invoke terrorism...i never came through any of the Gods in any religious scriptures except HINDU's "Mahabharat"
Explain me please.?
aftr clarifying this stance then only u criticise others.
Advise:- Read your books as well as Quran ..and do comparative study.
RE:RE:Francis Alvarez , a hidden name is misleadin the innocents, HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by Praveen on Feb 11, 2008 09:33 AM Permalink
1. What is wrong with Draupadi sharing 5 husbands?. If women can share men then men can also share women.
2. No one in the Hindu mythology (yes I believe its half symbolic and half truth) is a God. Everyone may have to face the consequences of their Karma. You know how Krishna died?. Do you know how Krishnas 'kula' (tribe) perished?. Btw stealing is mentioned as a childish prank. Krishna was a human being (remember that).
3. If brothers are wrong doers one has to fight them. It would have been great if Muslims followed this (stop supporting Jehadis).
4. Krishna is a vendanti guru. I will explain "God" later.
Mr.Shahab, the followers of Sanatana Dharma (let us call them Hindus) do not consider any particular person as God. For us everyone is a projection God (called brahmam). Do you know why the world exists?. It is because of your consciousness. So the world is consciousness (brahmam). The quest of a vedanti is seek oneness with brahmam by practising yogic life (meditation etc).There is no you and I, there is only I....(I am stopping here).
In Indian civilisation everyone can choose to live a free life. You see so many "Gods" in India. One can be a Vedanti or a pure idol worshipper. There is space for all levels of IQ.
Does Islam have anything good to offer ? I will be grateful to accept. But having 72 virgins and 28 boys as the aim of life is disgusting to say the least.
RE:RE:Francis Alvarez , a hidden name is misleadin the innocents, HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by Praveen on Feb 11, 2008 09:48 AM Permalink
And one more thing. All other religions (including the once brutal Christianity) have evolved over time. They understand the shortcomings of their thoughts and try to improve upon it. The western civilisation has contributed so much to human progress. Its because they grew above church and religion, embraced science and free thought. The Indian civilization was once great. Remember Columbus went out to find India not US. But the Muslim invasion took a heavy toll.
Muslims are the only people who think that a text wrote in 6AD is the ultimate truth. Nevertheless, Islam is not a religion its a political agenda. An agenda to impose Sharia upon humanity. Its basic quest is for power and s*x. Read Muhammeds history and you will understand that. Someone should measure the average IQ of the "true" Muslims. It could be revealing.
RE:Francis Alvarez , a hidden name is misleadin the innocents, HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by shahab khan on Feb 11, 2008 02:30 AM Permalink
and so in hinduism...Mahabharat..killings of ur own brothers.... and preached none other than your own GOD KRISHNA???
RE:RE:Francis Alvarez , a hidden name is misleadin the innocents, HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by TOTAL TRUTH on Feb 11, 2008 05:52 AM Permalink
dont preach mahabarat as if u r an authority of religious subject.thefacts and figures provided by francis is an eyeopener and a fact that cannot be forseen lets talk of today YES ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS BUT ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS and that is a fact.
RE:Francis Alvarez , a hidden name is misleadin the innocents, HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by KK on Feb 11, 2008 02:25 AM Permalink
The above quotes were given by An Indian is that Jehad of Colonialism.Then Europeans have many Jehads in NorthAmerica,Entire South America,Africa,Asia or you can Say Entire World. Understand the difference between Colonialism and Jehad. This jehadis are different from the invasions you are taking about. In this Invasions People were not Brutally killed as the Jehadis kill by Sucide bombings.
RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by KK on Feb 11, 2008 01:41 AM Permalink
%u064DShekhar Suman Shame On You. Who said Prophet Abraham never visited. Makkah is a pligrimage from before the advent of Islam.Jews also used to worship there before thet were expelled.You don't know regarding this Stop giving your false messages. Shame On you Rascal.
RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 01:52 AM Permalink
there were many jews in mecca before prophet and mecca was the place known for idol worshippiing before islam spread there. dont come up with such self-made stupid histories
RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by KK on Feb 11, 2008 01:58 AM Permalink
You Fool Shekhar Suman or Amit Arora or some one else.Always gives false messages and try to justify your message by giving quotes from the books which already corrupted. Shame on you. Yes you have not been educated from any madrasa. Madarasa means School. You ignorant Illetrate. Shame on You.
RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by KK on Feb 11, 2008 02:12 AM Permalink
You Fool Shekhar Suman.Give Up You False quotation as there is no logic. You are giving Facts from FaithFreedom which takes onw verse from the Holy Quran and dilutes it and then presents.Give Up this and GO to Hell. Facts are Facts and Reality is Quran. Come Under the Light of Quran. Shame On YOu.
RE:RE:RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:13 AM Permalink
i have answer many times, but y r u reporting it for abuse. dont u have daring?
RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 01:34 AM Permalink
from where do u got these idea that abraham never visited mecca, Arabia was a land of tribes and they used to fight each other before Ibraham and prophet Mohammed. It was named different in rule of different tribes. When Ibrahim went to mecca at that time it was not known as makka.
Every body questions about islam but noone gave answer to my question
if there is god in hinduism for each and every thing, for money, for food, for birth, etc... then why there is no god for peace?
RE:RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by Mahavir on Feb 11, 2008 09:14 AM Permalink
Francis, There are 33 million gods, to be precise in Hinduism. It was believed that there are 33 million species of life on earth and each species is god. Basically all form of life is a part of God and should be treated as such. Do you get it ?
RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:08 AM Permalink
u gave anwer about ur god but is that true, look down i have asked questioned about it.
I am not a cleric and i dont know the things about pre-islamic era, i know from scriptures.
Can u tell me any pre-hindu scripture which tells about Ram or etc (before aryans came 5000 years ago)
i didn't ask u whose era was known for peace, i asked u why there is no god for peace?
And if ram was so peace loving, then y did he killed bali by treachery
RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by amit on Feb 11, 2008 02:08 AM Permalink
in RIG VED..krishna says to Arjun "go and kill your brothers".. The most important religious book for hindu's is "MAHABHARAT"...which is full of terror...preaching "hate" and "killings" of your own brothers the KAURAV's...so if a religious book is terrorising people then i can understand the hindu religion is only and only based on TERRORISM.
RE:RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:16 AM Permalink
obsolutely right
even practically kaurav were true heirs for the kingdom of hastnapur, pandavs wanted it and for lust, sex, and wealth and they done it and they blame others for it.
RE:RE:RE:MUHAMMED'S LIES ABOUT HAJ
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 02:17 AM Permalink
why someone is posting my messages for abuse even though i have not used language as others are using here.
I can understand they are cowards, as ram who killed bali
RE:When will our socialist and money hungy film idustry learn
by P Sameer on Feb 11, 2008 12:59 AM Permalink
Stop giving your hypcritic views Shyam. Have you ever listened Friday Sermons by Mullah. You Ignorant.Terrorism is spread by our neighbors.
RE:When will our socialist and money hungy film idustry learn
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 01:04 AM Permalink
have u ever listened to RSS and VHP sermons?
RE:When will our socialist and money hungy film idustry learn
by Confused Mind on Feb 11, 2008 01:05 AM Permalink
Your responses show your mentality clearly, so do not waste time in false fights, lies and arguments. Anyway, I am sure you are also not a very happy and successful person in life. Just do not go ahead and blow yourself up. I know where you are coming from. But seeing your mentality, I find them to be a necessary evil.
RE:RE:When will our socialist and money hungy film idustry learn
by Francis Alvarez on Feb 11, 2008 01:19 AM Permalink
why r u reporting my posts for abuse, have i used abusive languange or offensive language. This clearly shows that u r happy to blame muslims, but when i questioned about you, u have no answer and turing ur back
RE:RE:When will our socialist and money hungy film idustry learn
by recalcitrant on Feb 11, 2008 01:18 AM Permalink
Confused Mind - I think you have choosen right name for yourself. Don't generally talk bad about Friday sermons, without knowing facts. And as for argument, people have better things to do in life than arguing on this forums.
Use this skill in your job - may be then you will become a "sane mind".
RE:RE:When will our socialist and money hungy film idustry learn
by Vasanth Srinivas on Feb 11, 2008 01:07 AM Permalink
Hope Sameer doesn't have an answer for this. Good post dude
RE:When will our socialist and money hungy film idustry learn
by Hari on Feb 11, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
You seem to overlook the fact, that its not the neighbor country citizens arrested.
The traitors are our own countrymen. No foreign power can be successful, if they do not have local support.
Do you ever wonder why some one in India does a blast in a Temple or a Masjid. The reason is a majority of a particular community feels they are not part of this country.
For hanging of Saddam, there was voilance in many parts of India. There were deaths. These protests usually happens immediately after the friday prayers.
RE:When will our socialist and money hungy film idustry learn
by Confused Mind on Feb 11, 2008 12:29 AM Permalink
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO READ AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT. ON PAPER, THERE HAS TO BE ONE-LAW AND UNIFORM CIVIL CODE AND GENDER EQUALITY LIKE IN TURKEY AND WESTERN COUNTRIES. OTHERWISE IT IS ALL HYPOCRISY. AND ALSO, NO OTHER RELIGION MAKES IT A STATE RELIGION AND DOES POLITICAL CORRUPTION OF RELIGION AND DIVIDE PEOPLE.
