RE:kumar is not marathi , he is of someones other
by bhagwati bahuguna on Feb 10, 2008 02:25 AM Permalink
If you read Raj's interview in TOI you will understand that he is not propagating regionalism. The media has blown it out of proportion. All he is asking the UP/ Biharis is to respect the law of the land. Thats all. And if Mumbai is maxed out then what is wrong in curbing immigration? Where will the additional people go? THere is no space left? THats what he was trying to do
RE:kumar is not marathi , he is of someones other
by Kumar on Feb 10, 2008 09:53 AM Permalink
People let's discover the compassion, the kindness and the love rather than the hate and bigotry inside our heart. Jai Bharat. I appeal to my fellow citizens here. Let's do some Gandhigiri. Please type a message of love and compassion after any message of hate typed in rediff.
RE:Ghatis and their enemies
by godzila on Feb 09, 2008 11:26 PM Permalink
yes. among them also, pune - brahmins and ambedkarvadis have clashes. they dont like some1 telling jai bhim. they treat ambedkar's followers with the same way the way bhaiyyas are treated now by raj.
RE:Hate campaign
by Rohit Kanwar on Feb 09, 2008 08:03 PM Permalink
It should read Ghatis hate Bhaiyas. So Bhaiyas have no choice but to hate the Ghatis. Rest of the hates you have mentioned are unimportant right now!
Lots of Indians go to USA and Europe to do jobs, open reataurants... Sikhs go to Canada, Gujuratis to US.. millions to middle east and south east Asia..Don't they eat up the jobs of locals? yes they do... so doesn't it mean that, in the global scenario the goverment of Bihar/UP are similar to the goverment of India? Can't generate enough jobs in India, so people go outside... Do you expect the Indians to be beaten there? If they are beaten/killed... will u support that? if not, then how can one support the beating of north Indians in Mumbai?
RE:similarity...
by Rama Subramanian on Feb 09, 2008 09:27 PM Permalink
The senior sena earlier was against south indians - branding them entirely as madrasis - and the junior sena has turned on north indians now.
Why the south indians are now spared? Because it is in the south - Bangalore, Chennai, Hyderabad, Trivandrum, Cochin etc. - that the world has located its back office and gets its services done - where work is for the present generation in India - Maharashtrians, marathi manoos included. Now the sena will turn against the south indians at their own peril.
But since Raj needs some issue to stay relevant the north indian bogey is up.
Simple logic. Nothing to be taken serious. Actually the north indian politicians and all others should just ignore this issue, and if it becomes a non-issue then it will die down.
RE:RE:similarity...
by cynic on Feb 09, 2008 09:38 PM Permalink
actually You have a valid point, US began to respect India a little because of Indians software skills, similar the UP/Bihar have to develop some skills which is useful to the country and to themselves and automatically politicians like Raj will shut up.
RE:similarity...
by cynic on Feb 09, 2008 09:36 PM Permalink
North Indian politicians are as bad as Raj, they would too love a slanging match as they would crave the publicity and try to distract from other burning issues.
RE:Ghati = Ghatiyaa
by Amrit Patil on Feb 09, 2008 07:45 PM Permalink
I never so saw this type of extreem ill-filling from one Indian to Maharashtrians. Hight of Ghatiyaapan...I am sorry.
RE:RE:Ghati = Ghatiyaa
by on Feb 10, 2008 11:24 AM Permalink
I agree with you Amrit. I am an Indian and I respect you. Regionalism by anyone is very cheap.
Amitabh married to Jaya - Up-Bengal Sharmila-Patautdi Hindu-Muslim S.Gavaskar-Marshnil Hindu-Christian Dharam-Hema North-South & so many other examples are there This Celebrities has set an example to all Indians that we are one. They never passes such comments.
ndia's 90 percent of wheat Atta/Flour comes from North India. All Maharastrans should buy cot wheat from North India and should only eat Rice. Wheat Production Pungab, Harayana, UP and Bihar: produce 90 percent of India wheat.
RE:Pungab, Harayana, UP and Bihar: produce 90 percent of India wheat.
by VSR on Feb 09, 2008 07:25 PM Permalink
Dont worry. From now onwards Marathas will import wheat from Brazil and USA instead of buying from Bihar and UP.
RE:Pungab, Harayana, UP and Bihar: produce 90 percent of India wheat.
by godzila on Feb 09, 2008 11:30 PM Permalink
yes. sharad pawar is also involved in such import scam of wheat. good of maharashtrian politicians.
Why Raj Thackeray is talking like a Hitler. Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job. If Maharashtr is so developed that it can't accept backward Bihari then then why they are also migrating to US, Europe, Saudi,Canada Australia etc. All 30 millions INDIANS NRI's out of which 5 millions are Maharashtras Indians(NRI's) should through back to India by overseas countries. All countries like USA,Europe,Canada,Australia etc are become so crowded and dirty because of these Illiterate and uncivilized Indians. Indians who don't have unity in their own country they don't have any rights to live overseas countries. These Indians send all money earn overseas to their native states in India. USA Citizen.
Dear Mumbaikars , If you heard Raj's elocution , you will understand the meaning. His intention might be getting that of lime light but his thinking is not wrong. After all when we will stop the intruders in Mumbai? We have to take some actions. Why only Marathi Manus should feel proud of Mumbai. Why not all? Everybody should feel proud of their motherland first and then the land which feeds and fulfills your dreams. When you are in New York, do you act there as Indian or accept that city%u2019s rules and regulations and work there as foreigners. One has to prove to the city that one did something in return for the Land which is feeding their family and giving the opportunity to perform the duties towards nation. Unfortunately Mumbai never got a Hero who could strongly fight for the City%u2019s rights. Today Mumbai is the world%u2019s best known city and India%u2019s commercial capital. This happened not because of Marathi Manus but because of the Mumbaikars !!! Then those Mumbaikars can of any caste, after all we are all Indians first. But this is also true when we are living in a state then we should make sure the local residents should not get hurt in any way. And for that I can support Raj.
RE:Understand what Raj wants to Say !
by Pravin on Feb 09, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
He is gonna do nothing but try and garner some vote. I still remember him taking sides for the Juhu molestation case which has made each of ours head hang in shame. Do not get carried away with all these crap dished out. It is nothing but political vendetta. Two cousins fighting via NIs. In any case ask him whether he has ever travelled in a local train to even understand what are we facing out there. Get real open your eyes and discern real people like Baba Amte from the masqueraders like Raj. No civil society should accept it. Btw for the last decade the maximum number of influx of immigrant is frm Ratnagiri and of top 10, seven districts are frm MH itself. So are these people intruders too and if not then why are other indians?
RE:Understand what Raj wants to Say !
by VSR on Feb 09, 2008 07:31 PM Permalink
Raj Thakray's agenda is earn crores and grab lands. He is not have any political backing and hence these issues, which is of nuisence value. You are talking about New York (for that matter whole of America).. Yes, you need to follow the rules of that country and you should also remember that America as a nation allows every religion to preach and they protect everyone, irrespective of caste, creed or religion. It is their in their federal document. On the other hand, you should also understand that Mumbai is not a country, but a state of India. Mumbai do not have separate laws and the laws of the country (india) applies to Mumbai. One should not take law in their countrol dictate terms that non-marathas should be driven away from Mumbai. If that what is going to happen, then all the marathas settled outside Maharashtra have to windup their business go back to Maharashtra. Understand that Bombay is vibrant because it is frequented by outsiders. If it is not frequented by many, it may remain like Dharbangha or some small city in other states. You want to cut the very basic of the growth of Mumbai and in that sense Mumbai will never remain as Mumbai.
RE:Understand what Raj wants to Say !
by Pravin on Feb 10, 2008 02:56 AM Permalink
Few good points... BTW, Mumbai is 'NOT' a state of India, but only a city within a state. I agree that we should not be generalizing all north indians are bad... however, if these political people like Amar Singh, M. Yadav stop acting as local politicians and work in their own state, such issue will not come up. Why the hell these leaders have to come to Mumbai and arrange rallies here? this is not their state... No politician in India comes to US, UK etc and try to arrange rallies for political gains and THAT IS THE REASON these countries are okay with Indians. If you try to mess up with their culture then even these countries will retaliate... after all everyone wants to protect their culture....
RE:Understand what Raj wants to Say !
by ramchandra murthy on Feb 10, 2008 11:04 PM Permalink
"intruder" is this a term you are gonna use for fellow indians. I think the Bangladeshis are intruders as they come from a different country, I am surprised that Raj Thackeray speaks of 20000 people on water pipelines . Majority of them are not North Indians but Bngladeshis and Kashmiri refugees. This is emminet as what we see along Bandra to Mahim pipelines. Raj thackeray defended the 12 Marathis invloved in the molestation case of new year of two NRI Gujurathi women. What do you have to sy about this. He then goes on to blame the North Indian population for the same wtihout any justification. Yet you insist of understanding the meaning of what he says. He speaks of Mumbadevi - Mumbai being derived from the Mumba devi and aai meaning mother. Have you ever been to the Mumbadevi temple ever, sad to tell you that I visit this temple very often and find (maybe) a handful of Marathis there. The priests are all North Indians and the majority of the devotees are also North Indians. What do you have to say about this. I feel without any bias and prejudice that Raj Thackeray seems to have lost ground over his politicial career. I an born and bought up in Mumbai affluent surburb and sadly all my life actually come across just 10-15 Marathi families. Now those who I knew sold and went of. Konkani speaking people are making a fool of Marathi people by passing off as Marathis. Even P L Deshpande turned out to be a Konkani from down south Kerala. Its not that every Maharahtrian is
RE:Understand what Raj wants to Say !
by on Feb 10, 2008 11:14 AM Permalink
Everyone has migrated from some place or the other. The word intruder is a wrong word to use. I respect Maharashtrians. Its like this. A person doesnt have to force someone to respect him. Respect comes from within. When a person respects others, he automatically gets it. I respect each and every person, who respect others irrespective of his language, caste or religion.
