India's defensive stand in relation to China is very bad and is really what prompts such things. India must be pro-active and recover Mansarovar, the abode of Lord Shiva. But in this India which is taken over by Vaisnavite Aryans, who is there to give a hearing to the grievance of an original Indian. Even the so called Shiv Sena worries about everything else but Lord Shiva.
Who cares what they think ? why is this even a column or news ? its Indian territory and our PM has full right to go there if they do not like it they can go to hell or wherever rotting animals go. Tomorrow Pakistan will not like Indian PM to go to Kashmir so what ? why should this even be point of discussion.
Even we dont like Chinese taking Tibet and killing innocent monks there, tell them to mind their own business.
RE:Who cares what the Chinese think ?
by Nitin jain on Feb 15, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
My brother you do not understand china policy. china act like GIRGIT. he bite his SHIKAAR and wait till death for eating. he will not resolve border issue with India. he wait till become self pwoerful like USA and become weak like russia for india that time he will GRABE his SHIKAAR in a second. for this he busy his big SHIKAAR with his puppet country to tease like pakis and nothkorea for USA and S.Korea and Japan. this is china policy.
Re: Who cares what the Chinese think ?
by amrithraj gopalan on Nov 09, 2008 10:10 PM Permalink
well said.I agree with you.I have been tracking chinese activities for last 10years.You can expect in 10-15years they will attack north east simutaneously Ladak.
North Eastern States are rich in minerals.Iindian Govt has been ignoring the north eastern states for ong time. They don't give importance as any other states in south or north.They give importance only when china shows an interest.
China claims Arunachal Pradesh on the basis of cutural affinity ( read as monetary donations) of people of Arunachal Pradesh with Tibetan monastries and temples. Now china has occupied Tibet illegally. how can they claim Arunachal Pradesh on the basis of something that they possess illegally in the first place?? It is high time India should take a tough stand against China on this non issue. Further, India has accepted Kashmir as disputed territory between Pakistan and India. Then how can China occupy some parts of Kashmir ( handed to them by their foot lickers in our neighbourhood). India should ask China to vacate Kashmir first because they cannot lease or capture or buy or take control of disputed territory ... Are you listening Mr Manmohan Singh..??
RE:False claims by Chinese
by Nitin jain on Feb 15, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
My dear Yena you also dont undersatnd china policy. some country beleive in agrasive foreign policy. it mean they follow pressure tacticts. they always put pressure on their enemy country by many ways. claim is one of the most important tool for them.if you see it in kashmir in respact of paki and arunachanl for China. although they really know that theses are not their part but they bound to do for use these too. they fully understant india weakness. they know very well that pressure cannot bear Indian. that why both country follow theses tool.but our present weakiest of the weakiest of the histroy- goverment does not curage to act or does not have mind to understant theses tactics. they act like a monkey and feel proud to shake hand on enemy terms. they feel happy for their stupid work and understant toselg that they made people fool. they does not work for country.
Re: False claims by Chinese
by amrithraj gopalan on Nov 09, 2008 10:20 PM Permalink
Agree here as well. I don't how many of you are aware that china even claims that Andaman and Nicobar are their territory?They have been sending war ships to Indian water near A&N islands.
Most of the problem are not with politician, but with Indian people. They are ignorant.More interested communal news.These are taken advantage by politican are behave in that way.
India will implode one day because of its own population,resource problem. Already we are fighting for water sharing, humaun resource overflow from different states.imbalance in infrastructure distribution, lack of sufficient energy,jumbo judiciary(different law for different people),misuse of democracy by politician and make amendments to suit their needs even at last minute,
I am afraid China is preparing grounds to attack India. They are very cunning and do everything in a planned manner. Wait till olympics in 2010 and see after that. They will surely impose war on us. We still have 2 years. Make good the time lost, raise additional divisions, buy equipments off the shelf, build infrastructure abondon appeasing policies and NFU and tell them that it will be destruction on both sides if war is imposed on us and that 30 years of hardwork in building the economy will go to pieces and ask them bluntly do they want this situation
Re: Arunachal
by amrithraj gopalan on Nov 09, 2008 10:24 PM Permalink
funny!!where are u?? r u in this world??next Olympics is in 2012.2 months back we had closing ceremony f 2008 olympics in china.
Guys here there a lots of indians venturing in different platforms with chinese better be carefull before you throw your dumb anger on china. Its better all mind there business.
It's not just the Chinese premier that is nervous, so probably is that little left wing militant Beijing Bidwai, Watch him stay nervously silent on this. After all he can't come and say it should belong to China.
RE:so is Beijing Bidwai
by XianYe on Feb 09, 2008 05:03 PM Permalink
Nervous? Nervous about what? What makes you believe in what you are told by the press? India is China's least worry. You guys need to focus your effort on building a strong economy rather than chasing a figment of your imagination. Just to give you a hint of what China is embarking on. Shanghai is in the midst of constructing the Hongqiao Transport Hub. The building work covers a land area of 26.26 square kilometres. The core area, which is to be completed in 2 years and 8 months, consists of underground stations for metro lines #2, #5, #10, #17, and #20, the West Air Terminal, Hongqiao Railway Station with 30 pairs of tracks and 16 platforms for Bejing-Shanghai high speed raiway link and other inter-city express lines, Hongqiao Maglev Station with 10 lines and 10 platforms, and the East and West Transfer Squares. The total construction area is 1,500,000 square meters, of which 500,000 square metres are underground. This is the kind of projects that India must plan now and complete in double quick time before it can even think of competing against and comparing with China.
RE:so is Beijing Bidwai
by Rajan Shah on Feb 10, 2008 02:57 AM Permalink
Thank you so much for the advice, India wouldn't know where to start if it wasn't for you. But rest assured things are moving along, slowly but surely. Now as to the "Nervousness" bit, regular readers of rediff.com would have latched onto the fact that was directed at "Beijing Bidwai". A left wing Indian who whines and bitches with everything India tries to move ahead. So next time you launch yourself into one of your little tirades, try and separate the fact and the facetious in a comment. With that said the gist of my comment had nothing to do with China being worried about India. There feel better now
RE:so is Beijing Bidwai
by silenzer on Feb 11, 2008 12:37 PM Permalink
Hello Xian, whatever material development you are talking about China is nullified by the fact that your government persecutes religion and freedom of expression. Do you know how many Falun Gong and Falun Dafa practitioners are detained and their organs harvested for trade? Chinese govt is criminal in nature. The people there are suffering like anything. The only people enjoying with peoples' money are the communist party members of China. Dalai Lama wouldn't have taken shelter in India if the Chinese communist party was tolerant towards Buddhism. Google out Nine commentaries; you will learn more. Any take?
RE:RE:so is Beijing Bidwai
by vijay band on Feb 13, 2008 09:37 AM Permalink
The old democracy best trap: no matter how malnutritious our chidren are, how many illiterate women we have, how short our life expentency is, how miserable our lives are, we are the best because we have the so called DEMOCRACY!
What a joke.
btw, please do not use Falun Gong as an example, it's a infamous organization even in US.
RE:RE:so is Beijing Bidwai
by Yerra Burra on Feb 10, 2008 11:02 AM Permalink
In general Indians are happy that China is doing well now after suffering colonial and communist regimes for such a long time. They will be even happier when China overcomes the Tiananmen Sq behaviour, frees Tibet and lets their currency float freely (free of manipulation).
India should speed up process of development in Arunachal and other 7 sister states of the east,as lack of development in these region give opportunities for our inquisitive neighbours to think the land will belong to them in future even when they know about the historical treaties and just pretend to have forgotten them.This is a dangerious trend which the Indian side should take notice seriously and take timely action of development of infrastucture and communication letting the people in these region to know that they belong to a nation who care for them in a democratic way.As some parts of India has seen development in the resent past so should these regions develop fast,to let our neighbours know where they stand in an insincere relation of fake friendship.All know Chiniese have very few friends, that itself makes one be careful about them.They help Pak in their proxy wars and say they are India's friends,here the meaning of friendship has to be changed in the dictionary.
let us learn more about the chinese, and try to corner them when they do not understand the meaning of freindship, let us also recognise the tibeten govt in excile, and let us also ecourage the peaceful revolution in china.Let us take upon china, rather than on BJP and sangh Pariwar.
People of this region still remember the scars of the government abandoning the people of Assam and Jawaharlal Nehru's infamous address to the nation, in which he almost bade goodbye to Assam, saying 'My heart goes out to the people of Assam' still rankles the Assamese people.
