Did life originate from single cell? While DNA can only replicate with the help of special proteins (enzymes), the synthesis of these proteins can only be realized by the information encoded in DNA. As they both depend on each other, they have to exist at the same time for replication. Science writer John Horgan explains the dilemma in this way: DNA cannot do its work, including forming more DNA, without the help of catalyticproteins, or enzymes. In short, proteins cannot form without DNA, but neither can DNA form without proteins.
A very interesting paradox
A person who is about to read a book knows that it has been written by an author for a specific reason. It would not even occur to him that this book might have come into being by chance. In the same manner, a person who sees a sculpture has no doubt whatsoever that it was made by a sculptor. And not just works of art: even a few bricks resting on top of one another make one think that they must have been brought to rest just so by someone within a certain plan. Therefore, everywhere where there is an order, either small or big a founder and protector of this order must also exist. Raw iron and coal came together to form steel by chance, which in turn constructed the Eiffel Tower again by chance, would not he and those who believed him be regarded as insane? n
Before approaching Baba's, Saint's , Guru's , These people project themselves as their life is devoted for social service or for the people, but why they are so rich, how they became rich, Taking money from people who they beleive in you or any business , HOW? why can't they leave as normal citizens
RE:Why all the Maharishi's are wealthy Rich
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:58 PM Permalink
All Priests, Clerics, Gurus are fraud and basically fooling people ... They are welfare organizations ... That is why you see all developed countries in the world are 'secular' to keep these people on the fringes. Michelangelo, said, the problem with people is not that, they aim high and are not able to reach it, but that they aim low and are ale to reach it. This spirit and the Greek philosophy of science, technology, senate, republic brought a renaissance in Europe and the Western world and changed their lives forever. Common sense about exceling in life is religion. But as Voltaire said, common sense is not that common.
Pl answer this: There are more than 2000 religions the world over and some of them have hundreds of sects. Each religion has its own god/gods. Every one is sure that the god/gods of other religions are false. Then what makes the believers think that the god of their religion only is true????
RE:@ Cape
by JGN on Feb 06, 2008 05:10 PM Permalink
Pass on the buck to god when you cannot give a logical answer!!!!!!!!!!!! Shall I paraphrase another saying as "God is the last refuge of scoundrals" ??????
Religion is a must for every human whether educated or not. Even atheism is a kind of religion. Religion is based on some beliefs and ideologies. Religion is meant to show a way of life. For this it lists out some rules and regulations a human has to follow. Differences in religion does not make it unnecessary. Atheists believe that there is no life/re-birth after death. If every human is atheist then there will be high degree of immorality as everyone (with few exceptions) would think of experiencing pleasure in this world. Religion has controlled vices of humans at least to some extent. If I have a problem/disease which I cannot solve/cure with available options in the world I can pray God. Whether my problem is solved or not at least I will get some relief/moral-strength. What will you do in that case? Fear of hell prevents/controls me committing sin to a great extent.
RE:RE:@JGN
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:50 PM Permalink
There is no your God our God. God is common to everyone. But you guys are worshipping idols without realising that it is an insult to God.
RE:@JGN
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:54 PM Permalink
Idols and Ideals of Life ... People are confused and Priests make business by making people worship and so do the same in all other religions as well whether you worship a cross or nothing ...
RE:@JGN
by JGN on Feb 06, 2008 04:46 PM Permalink
Dear Cape, I do not agree with you. Almost two-thirds of all wars fought by man-kind were in the name of religions and non-existent gods.
As for praying, there is a saying in Malaylam, Palam kadakkuvolam narayana, palam kadannal koorayana (till you cross the bridge, you say Narayana - another name of Maha Vishnu - and after crossing the bridge, you say Koorayana (deride the god) !!!!!!!!! Atheists are more reliable than the believers when it comes to inter-personal relationship. We do not harbour any hatred for anybody based on Religion.
RE:RE:@JGN
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:52 PM Permalink
Do not think that all the people are like you. If atheism is followed by every human I bet entire world become a hell.
RE:@JGN
by rajsing mohapatro on Feb 06, 2008 04:57 PM Permalink
Physical science and god dont co exist. But when it comes to met pahysics science defines meta physics as a process of supernatural power and that is a definition of god. Think of a scenario, You got heart attack and died. I infused fresh blood , supplied amount of energy u need and protected u from infection still u cant be alive. Coz science of mechanism doesnt work with metaphysics. So u have to believe.
RE:@JGN
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:39 PM Permalink
Secularism & democracy are the foundations of Hinduism. Caste saved India from dark days by providing some basic purpose in life. Religion is One and should be limited to Human Character and Human Values with One Common Law encouraging people to develop their Body and Mind, Emotions and Intellect, Creativity and Consciousness. The caste is a scientific concept but has been abused and distorted by confused people. It basically means that to live life intelligently we need to effectively balance the 4-forces within - Thinker, Protector, Economist, Worker - and also while governing society. This is all based on natural human intelligence. The roots of the ancient Indian philosophy which goes by the name Hinduism is actually secular, logical and universal. The idols symbolize objectives in life: Shiva (freedom), Durga (Strength), Saraswati (Knowledge), Lakshmi (Wealth), Ganesh (Wisdom). Life is God. These Goddesses are not really goddesses per se but symbolize the objectives of the pursuit of human life. All civilized societies in the world practice this in principle as it is the natural & true meaning of 'secularism' & 'humanism' followed by all. Check out, A Religion Called 'Human', for more details. Things are simple, we complicate.
RE:@JGN
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:41 PM Permalink
This is just an attempt by educated people to invent reasons for idol worship and myths only to convince their commonsense.
RE:@JGN
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:43 PM Permalink
You can continue your distorted missionary work ... We will continue to clear distortions ...
RE:@JGN
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:48 PM Permalink
Read Upanishads and Buddhism and compare the same with the constitution of america and also do research to find out why renaissance happened in Europe and why all Western countries became secular inspite of having one religion xtianity.
RE:RE:RE:@JGN
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:46 PM Permalink
I believe our ancestors must be one and the same. Every human has intelligence. Our ancestors had limited knowledge on science. One cannot use intelligence properly without sufficient knowledge. I and you have more knowledge than our ancestors had. No doubt about it. I hope you got the point.
RE:@JGN
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:46 PM Permalink
Read Upanishads and Buddhism and compare the same with the constitution of america and also do research to find out why renaissance happened in Europe and why all Western countries became secular inspite of having one religion xtianity.
RE:@JGN
by Neo Intellectual on Feb 06, 2008 05:23 PM Permalink
Hey Cape, Let me put my disclaimer first up :" I am not a very religious person'. Well now coming to idol worship, what's wrong with it mate? Just come to think of it do people not keep photographs of their spouces/children in their wallets etc? Is it bcoz they dont know (or forget)how they look? If there was an idol of your mother kept in front of you and you were asked to spit on it(no offence plz), would u do it? anyway it's not 'your mom' instead it's 'your mom's idol'. you would not do it. it's natural for humans to seek tangible symbols and objects to get a grip on abstract concepts. In fact even in 'so called' non-idol worshipping religions like Islam and Christianity, you do find people having photos of Kaba, the crescent painted, people wearing crosses, praying in front of a cross etc., Is this not idol worship? It's just that these are very simple symbols and in Hinduism, the symbols are more rich and vivid .
RE:@JGN
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:46 PM Permalink
Read Upanishads and Buddhism and compare the same with the constitution of america and also do research to find out why renaissance happened in Europe and why all Western countries became secular inspite of having one religion xtianity.
RE:RE:@JGN
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:48 PM Permalink
Think why fanatic hindus attack secularism and cry for hindu rashtra. Buddhism has nothing to do with hinduism. In fact hindus copied many things from buddism later on people start thinking that those concepts are original hinduism.
RE:Conversion...
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:34 PM Permalink
Secularism & democracy are the foundations of Hinduism. Caste saved India from dark days by providing some basic purpose in life. Religion is One and should be limited to Human Character and Human Values with One Common Law encouraging people to develop their Body and Mind, Emotions and Intellect, Creativity and Consciousness. The caste is a scientific concept but has been abused and distorted by confused people. It basically means that to live life intelligently we need to effectively balance the 4-forces within - Thinker, Protector, Economist, Worker - and also while governing society. This is all based on natural human intelligence. The roots of the ancient Indian philosophy which goes by the name Hinduism is actually secular, logical and universal. The idols symbolize objectives in life: Shiva (freedom), Durga (Strength), Saraswati (Knowledge), Lakshmi (Wealth), Ganesh (Wisdom). Life is God. These Goddesses are not really goddesses per se but symbolize the objectives of the pursuit of human life. All civilized societies in the world practice this in principle as it is the natural & true meaning of 'secularism' & 'humanism' followed by all. Check out, A Religion Called 'Human', for more details. Things are simple, we complicate.
Are there a seperate muslim /christian/ hindu / buddhist air, water...? when we all breath the same air, drink same water...how can god can be different...? the problem every religion thinks that god stands and watches them from space...they also think that their religion's god is different from others... what a joke...!!?? the problem arises when we think that god is a male / female. its energy...it does not require any name...simple example when a muslim mosque in iraq is bombed or a hindu temple in kashmir is demolished or a buddhist vihar is ransacked...why no god stops it...? first of all if at all god exists...he does not require all these...we humans requires...he/she does not lose anything...even if each religions' gods are different, they dont seem to fight among themselves...it is we fools who fight...either in street or in net...!!! if god is an intelligent person, he would have stoped this in the beginning itself...since he/she does not have the wherewithal to stop this... why worship him...?
RE:Are there separate gods for each religion????
by JGN on Feb 06, 2008 04:26 PM Permalink
I have no intention to defame Dr. Kovoor. I consider him my "Guru"
Astronomers estimate that the earth, like other solar planets, was formed over four billion years ago by the agglomeration of particles of matter in space. Later when the temperature and atmospheric conditions of the earth were suitable, life originated on it as a result of chemical activity. Molecules of livable organic matter were formed from methane, ammonia and water of the primitive atmosphere of the earth under the influence of solar and volcanic energies. (Simulating the conditions of the primitive atmosphere of the earth, the Nobel Laureate Dr. Har Gobind Khorana and Dr. Cyril Ponnamperuma had successfully produced molecules in their laboratories). These molecules in due course developed the property of replicating and producing energy through slow oxidation called respiration. It is this type of energy produced by respiring organic matter that we call life. Livable matter becomes a living body when it respires and produces vital energy (life).
The molecules of organic matter formed on the primitive earth produced unicellular organisms in due course, which as a result of millions of years of evolution gave rise to the present flora and fauna.
Harlow Shapply, the famous astrophysicist, says there can be millions of planets in space where life is possible. In some of these planets there may be organisms much more intelligent and much more evolved than man
The avowed policies of the Missionaries (or those who convert the natives into other religions) anywhere in the world were to inculcate in the converts a spirit of alienation towards their ancestral society, culture and religion as well as their native land - Dr. A.T. Kovoor
RE:Religious conversion
by veera on Feb 06, 2008 04:14 PM Permalink
true ,recently one of my close xtian friend refused to take trupati prasadam naming it as blasphemous
RE:Religious conversion
by JGN on Feb 06, 2008 04:19 PM Permalink
Dear Cape Comorin, pl stop this hatred based on religion. You were not even able to give me three valid reasons for conversion! What are we fighting for?????
RE:Religious conversion
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:22 PM Permalink
What hatred you found in my message? Why should I give you reasons to convert after all you are adament to stick with your hypocritic policies? But I hope you will realize one day probably when you attain old age nearing death.
RE:Religious conversion
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:17 PM Permalink
It is better to alienate a culture that treated majority of humans as animals. In fact even hindus alientated that culture after getting educated.
RE:Religious conversion
by veera on Feb 06, 2008 04:21 PM Permalink
@cape
90 % of farmers in India are HINDUS ..every day they dedicate their food to SUN god before starting their harvest .....that makes every bit of food grain produced by these farmers as ambrosia ( food for gods ) ...
so pls stop taking food from now on ..or try to get only food harvested by Muslim farmers....how abt that?????
RE:Religious conversion
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:39 PM Permalink
"we hindu's consider it (sun) a god" Have you ever apply your commonsense to introspect whether sun is god or star?
RE:RE:Religious conversion
by JGN on Feb 06, 2008 04:20 PM Permalink
What about slavery, which has been justified in The Bible??? It was more horrible than the caste system in India!
RE:RE:RE:Religious conversion
by Cape Comorin on Feb 06, 2008 04:24 PM Permalink
Slavery is justified in hinduism. How casteism is not more horrible than slavery? Read history of Travancore. You will understand how people were enslaved due to so-called 'Neethi Shastras'.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Religious conversion
by JGN on Feb 06, 2008 04:27 PM Permalink
Then why can't atleast educated persons like us get rid of the religious dogmas?
Our scientists can see stars that have been dead for a billion years; they can document microscopic bacteria that concluded their brief lives on earth eons ago. But of God we have no trace, except for the testimony of scribes writing of events neither they nor those around them ever witnessed - and the faith of millions of people who have managed to convince themselves that he lives and reigns somewhere in the sky - Steven Chapman
It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, "mad cow" disease, and many others, but I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate - Richard Dawkins
