This issue is totally a political tussle. Amar singh is now crying hoarse. They were planning a rally to criticize UPA. Raj, unknowingly, helped congress as instead of that Rally getting attention, the few incidents of violence came into focus. So the so called UNPA's rally went unnoticed and hence it flunked.
Raj is right. Let's bring all the non-Marathi Industries out of Mumbai. In fact dismantle all metros and distribute all the industries to big cities all over the India. So every Indian can get benefit of it.
Metros are sucking resources and producing criminals.
Amar Singh is master in the art of creating confusion and reaping benefit out of the chaos, this middleman can stoop low to any limit. Bachchans, you are in bad company.
800 families come from all over India mainly North to settle in Mumbai EVERY DAY!. This freedom of movement nonsense is no excuse. Freedom comes with responsibility.
RE:Stop raping Mumbai
by Lucky B on Feb 07, 2008 01:43 AM Permalink
You are right. To stop this movement let's open companies and industries in every part of India. So people do not need to migrate to these criminal metros.
There is no problem if people from any part of country do come to Maharashtra/Mumbai for living. But the problem with people from UP/Bihar is that they want to come here and turn Mumbai into Bihar/UP. And then they blindly follow their great useless leaders like Amar Singh, Abu Azami etc. It would have been ok if these leaders were doing great jobs in their own states. But their states are in dire state. These states are hopeless. And on top of that they come to the stable states like Maharashtra and try to say that all that you have got is because of UP/Bihar people and leaders. This is ridiculous and objectionable.
Violence in any form is not adored but if some leader taunts you continuously and UP/Bihar people continue to express faith in their idiotic laeders very few choices remains for the host state people.
Also maharashtrains are not as hard-core people as being projected in Media. If it was the case then on Marathi card Shivsena would have won all elections till date. But there is limit for everything and so is for patience of Maharashtrans.
RE:UP Bihar People
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Feb 07, 2008 01:21 AM Permalink
Nilesh, you are absolutely right. Whatever you have written here is true. We are NOT against so called outsiders. We are probably the most receptive states in the Indian union and may be because of that all of our countrymen expect too much from us. And yes, there is a limit to everything. Hope our brothers from North wont push great patriot maharashtrians in the corner!
Forget about Raj, but many noted Marathi writers have expressed concerns about the culture that is being brought to Mumbai/Pune by outsiders.
Today this is happening in Mumbai, tomorrow it will be Bangalore and then Chennai and so on and so forth. EVERY INDIAN has a responsibility to respect local languages and cultures. Even if I'm visiting North or South, its my responsibility to respect their unique culture and we expect the same from others. Thats all there to this issue. Nothing more nothing less.
Most of the posts here are full of hate messages. And yah, by calling us ghati and all these guys are just helping anti nationals like Abu Azami. Request to North Indian is that they check credentials of this Abu Azmi. It was Shivsena's ghatis who protected all of the people in 1992 when Azmi's men were rioting on the streets of Mumbai. that time Sena didnt just saved ghatis but they saved EVERYONE. So, please, please don't push us in the corner. Get united, respect each other and help India progress.
RE:UP Bihar People
by souvik nandi on Feb 07, 2008 01:36 AM Permalink
Among all these posts, yours is really logical and to the point. Just tell me one thing, do I need to know Marathi to stay in Mumbai?? Do you know Tamil, Malayalam, Kannada, Telugu, Bengali, Gujrati, Asamiya and all other languages??? If not, then according to your point of view how would you survive in anywhere outside your state?? Also, Mumbai being country's financial capital is a cosmopolitan. You really can not force someone to speak in your language. Finally, those who never respect others' languages and make fun of that could be found in any state and community. Such people are neither yours nor mine, they are just craps and should be thrown that side of LoC.
RE:UP Bihar People
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Feb 07, 2008 02:07 AM Permalink
I know you can't be fluent in Marathi but you can try. I myself learnt Tamil when I was in Chennai for couple years.
As for forcing languages on others, when I was in TN, railway reservation forms were in Tamil and English. There was no form in Hindi. Can you answer if that was right? We accepted Hindi as our national language and we respect that. End result is that that the leader of opposition in BMC from North has demanded that the working language of Mumbai corporation should be Hindi. Do you expect us to tolerate that? Can this be done in Chennai or in Kolkata? If NOT, then why and how in Mumbai?
RE:UP Bihar People
by Lucky B on Feb 07, 2008 01:46 AM Permalink
Putting all eggs in one basket is wrong. Ban any new openings in Mumbai and so industrialist will open industries in other part of India.
RE:UP Bihar People
by souvik nandi on Feb 07, 2008 01:51 AM Permalink
First grow and exhibit the work culture Mumbai follows, then dream of companies in every part of India. And I'm talking about all the people from different religions, languages and communities staying in Mumbai. It's not some community, but a city that stands out as a whole.
though it isquite regretable actions of so called massiah of marathies but now we are hearing from mulayam .where has his consious gone when he has utilised the services of state machinery to rape and kill people of uttaranchal on the 2nd of october.People like mulayam do not have any morals they will preach as per there own convineance .this is the man who tried to murder bhain mayawati in side the UP assembly .
Instead of making controversial statements and sweeping allegations why not spend some ill gotten money of yours on constructing decent toilets in Mumbai for poor Biharis and UP Bhaiyyas. What constructive things have you done in past other than giving irrelevant and spineless statements ?? The MNS should not have targetted poor people instead tehy should have gone after fatso like Amar Singh, Mulayum , Laloo and their kind..
RE:Time to act Amar Singh
by Lucky B on Feb 07, 2008 01:48 AM Permalink
Does MNS has guts to target no-marathi companies in Mumbai? Jut bunch of cowards hitting poor Indians.
the main problem is that a minor section of marathis think that they are not able to enjoy develoment of mumbai and north indians are reaping benefits.but this is not true .development of mumbai of today is only because of people outside the state.marathi people just have to show dynamism and they can prosper. also a large number of marathis are employed by north indians only. if anyone thinks marathis will be able to enjoy developed mumbai if other indians leave then he is terribly mistaken. dont listen to politicians like raj thakrey,amrar singh,abu azmi etc.they can kill people ,incite people and can not do anything else.nothing will happen to them and only poor people ,marathi or other wil suffer by the way what is the contribution of raj thakrey in constructive benefit of mumbai or marathis exept promoting regionalism,inciting people ,dividing hindus and country and bashing poor helpless people?
but the silver lining is that majority marathi people are peace loving and want peace and prosperity only and are aware of evil designs of raj thakrey.
RE:mumbai
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Feb 07, 2008 01:29 AM Permalink
ABSOLUTELY WRONG. You don't have understanding of the issue. You are saying Mumbai's development is ONLY because of outsiders and we take STRONG exception to this. Why didn't you help your own state match Mumbai? Why did you come to Mumbai in the first place? Because city offered you opportunities and environment to prosper. That environment to prosper is the result of hard work put in by us Marathis not only in Mumbai but in Pune, Nasik, Nagpur etc etc. Thats why you guys throng to these cities.
Why don't you take your own politicians to task? What has this Amar Singh and Mulayam done to UP? They ruled UP for so long but not a single achievement and you guys are telling us how to prosper in Mumbai????
We are basically peace loving people. We LOVE India more than anyone else but at the same time we love our language also. We respect your languages and cultures and we expect the same from you.
RE:mumbai
by rocking on Feb 07, 2008 01:49 AM Permalink
BUT I STAND BY MY POINT THAT MUMBAI IS DEVELOPED ONLY BECAUSE OF COMPOSITE AND METRO STATUS ONLY.
AMBANI ARE GUJRATI AND MANY OTHER BIG HOUSES ARE FROM OUTSIDE STATE ONLY.
MAHARASHTRA AND MUMBAI HAS PROSPERED BECAUSE OF ITS BIG HEART.
MARK MY WORDS MARATHI PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM PEOPLE OUTSIDE STATE.(NOT NECESSARY FROM UP AND BIHAR).
BESIDES MUMBAI IS NOT ANYONES FATHERS PROPERTY.PEOPLE OF INDIA ARE FREE TO MOVE AND LIVE ANYWHERE IN COUNTRY.
RE:mumbai
by T D on Feb 07, 2008 06:39 AM Permalink
I'd generally accept the statement that the people of India are free to move to any part. But, are they also free to make a mess of their home state and then move to other states. Don't citizens have any responsibilities? Do they only have rights? Set your home state right before you force yourselves on others. Other states such as Andhra, Karnataka and Gujarat have done it. If Mayawati can be the 19th richest tax payer, what prevents UP from being a prosperous state?
