RE:Who says there are several Indias
by Manohar on Feb 07, 2008 12:40 AM Permalink
India is just a remnant of British creation. Linguistic identities determine nationality everywhere. There will come a point when linguistic identities will be strained in several states of India leading to imminent division. Linguistic identity is the only real and ancient identity of people living in India. Not, race, religion or India. You will see in future.
RE:Who says there are several Indias
by manoj kumar on Feb 07, 2008 12:50 AM Permalink
Diwali is celebrated all through out India. This is ONE OF THE common identities. Language is just one difference.
RE:Who says there are several Indias
by Jagte Raho on Feb 07, 2008 12:53 AM Permalink
Manohar Bhai,
Tum ek shaap ho is Society ke liye.
You need to change your Mind & Suggest you to pls go to Varanasi & take a Dip in Ganga River. You will get good Reception in Varanasi if you say that you are a Maharastrian. I have experienced it & you also do asap. Pls see the Acceptance of other state people in UP. UP meain Dum hain aur ye bat Baqwas nahin hain.
RE:Who says there are several Indias
by Rajagopal on Feb 07, 2008 12:49 AM Permalink
You and I will certainly die before that day, you traitor. You and your fallacies are fit for mental asylum. If linguistic unity was the criteria, America wouldn't have shot out of Great Britain.
That's why I said down there , keep off this you nit wit, You don't understand this.
RE:Who says there are several Indias
by Manohar on Feb 07, 2008 12:54 AM Permalink
America and Britain are separated by a Ocean. Your logic is twisted.
RE:Who says there are several Indias
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
IF BHAIYAS CAN EARN THEIR LIVELIHOOD IN AMERICA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA...THEN WHY NOT IN MUMBAI?....WORLD IS GLOBAL...LETS C WHO STOPS WHOM TO WORK AT PLACE ACCORDING TO LIKINGS.....TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE...
RE:Who says there are several Indias
by Rajagopal on Feb 07, 2008 12:58 AM Permalink
Arre bhaiyya, zara chup bhi raho toh, tumhe koi hata toh nahi raha hei na?
RE:Who says there are several Indias
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 01:04 AM Permalink
boss as you are proud of being indian, i m pround of being bihari...its not a matter of shame for me to hide my identity...if you have guts then prove urself to the world...u are not known to this world by marathi, punjabi or bengali..world knows you because you are indian...even you have some wish in corner of ur heart its will take zillions of years to chuck out bhaiya out of mumbai and even if u succeed in doing so...thats the end of mumbai..
Raj Thakre and Bal Thakre are like p-igs. These people can sell their own mother to come in power. They have never done anything good for anyone. All they did is divide the people on name of caste, religion and region and get vote. This time they are befooling marathies. Making other Indians to hate Marathies because they are using marathies for their cheap goals.
It would be far better if these people can do something to make Marathi people better so that they can compete with non-Maharashtrians rather than pulling leg who are doing better. This is no way to show their frustration. Raj thakre and their people are doing same thing against north Indian that is done in Islamic world against USA and Eurpore.
Diversity is always good. Otherwise Maharashtra will be like some Afghanistan or Pakistan where people from other belief are killed or ill-treated.
Raj Thakre and Bal Thakre want to make Maharashtra another Pakistan.
RE:Jai-Hind
by on Feb 07, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
mr ajay arabs &muslims are not hating west or europe they are resisting their robbery of their natural resources when brits were doing same to india indians were doing same. north indians are contributing in the properity of mumbai.BUT THEY ARE KAYASTH ILLEGITIMATE SONS OF BRAHAMINS.what can one expect haramis.bharat
RE:RE:Jai-Hind
by on Feb 07, 2008 01:08 AM Permalink
u mean to say thakre family is kayasth hence HARAMIS.may be i dont know.is grand father was opposed to brahamins baal thakre was harrasing muslims raj thakre against north indian.neverthless abhitab &amar singh deserve `this treatment.sawant
RE:Jai-Hind
by Manohar on Feb 07, 2008 12:33 AM Permalink
Each linguistic state in India is a nation in itself. That is the reality. Just like nations in European Union. Overtly changing the demographic makeup of any linguistic state will arouse passions. That is what is happening the case of Maharashtra.
RE:RE:Jai-Hind
by Rajagopal on Feb 07, 2008 12:41 AM Permalink
Abe, tu kyon aata hei re badon ke beech mein? Linguistic states aren't like European nations. And no one is overtly changing the demographics overnight it is the transformation of cities over centuries. Do you mean to say only maharashtrians resided when there Mumbai was discovered?
Remember, Maharashtrians refrained from entering Mumbai for the fear of mosquitos(barring the kolis who ere aborigins of that place) when British and Parsis entered.
RE:Jai-Hind
by Srinivas Hebbar on Feb 07, 2008 01:09 AM Permalink
You are talking nonsense. This country was wronged when Nehru divided it on lingusitic basis, adding to the terrible blunder by that other so called god MK gandhi. MKG is the root of all evils and his family has made it a business in Hindustan. See the tamasa of every second two bit relative immersing the demon's ashes wherever he pleases and creating a national tamasha
RE:Jai-Hind
by Ajay on Feb 07, 2008 12:37 AM Permalink
Nothing is happening in Maharastra. I have sean it almost in every city. People blam other for their own failures. It happend in Banglore, Chennai, Delhi and even here in US. Incompetet always blame other for thier failures. That is what being done in Mumbai now a days.
RE:Jai-Hind
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:43 AM Permalink
mr parker...are u sure that none of the people from ur state earn livelihood in other parts of india?
RE:Jai-Hind
by Peter Parker on Feb 07, 2008 12:56 AM Permalink
Sure they do. I have never said you cannot have freedom of movement. But that has to be predicated with the fact that there is a limit. When the constitution said freedom of movement, it implied that all states would be governed reasonably well. Well this assumption is getting busted because UP and bihar have not been governed well for the last 30-40 years while the center has been blinded to this tragedy. In return what is happening is the mass migration of UP'ites and Bihari's to other places namely maharashtra. Why should the marathi folks pay for the non-governance in UP and Bihar.
RE:RE:Jai-Hind
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
14 % OF NATIONAL GDP IS BEING CONTRIBUTED BY MUMBAI ALONE. AND DO YOU THINK ITS ALL ALONE DONE BY MARATHIS? FOLK ITS THE GENUINE COLLECTIVE EFFORT OF ALL THE CITIZENS. A STARVING FAMILY DOESN'T KNOW THAT MUMBAI IS SATURATED, WAT IT KNOWS IS SOME OR THE OTHER WAY TO EARN MONEY AND RUN FAMILY...ITS UR PRIVILEGE THAT U WERE BORN IN A PROSPEROUS STATE...BIHAR AND UP IS AMONG THE UNFORTUNATE.
RE:Jai-Hind
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 01:14 AM Permalink
14 % OF NATIONAL GDP IS BEING CONTRIBUTED BY MUMBAI ALONE. AND DO YOU THINK ITS ALL ALONE DONE BY MARATHIS? FOLK ITS THE GENUINE COLLECTIVE EFFORT OF ALL THE CITIZENS. A STARVING FAMILY DOESN'T KNOW THAT MUMBAI IS SATURATED, WAT IT KNOWS IS SOME OR THE OTHER WAY TO EARN MONEY AND RUN FAMILY...ITS UR PRIVILEGE THAT U WERE BORN IN A PROSPEROUS STATE...BIHAR AND UP IS AMONG THE UNFORTUNATE.
RE:Jai-Hind
by manoj kumar on Feb 07, 2008 01:05 AM Permalink
People should understand that underdevelopment in UP and Bihar is a national issue and not just a regional issue. State government is alone not responsible. Certain issues like flood has to be taken up by center because it involves inter-state and international boundaries. Flood is the biggest problem of Bihar.
RE:Jai-Hind
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:48 AM Permalink
IF BHAIYAS CAN EARN THEIR LIVELIHOOD IN AMERICA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA...THEN WHY NOT IN MUMBAI?....WORLD IS GLOBAL...LETS C WHO STOPS WHOM TO WORK AT PLACE ACCORDING TO LIKINGS.....TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE...
what do all those people who support regionalism (which is so overt in Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Maharasthra,and now Hyderabad) have to say about the ill treatment meted out to the Indians abroad.....if u think that people from less developed states shouldnt come to Maharashtra or else they should adopt Maharsthrian culture and not be loyal to the native places (read states)then what do u have to say about celebrating Indian Independence Day and observing Indian festivals by Indians settled abroad?According to Mr Raj Thakeray that is also a "natak" by Indians in America or England or Australia, etc.All those people having relatives abroad and still supporting regionalism in India ...what will u do if America attacks India...will u ask ur relatives to be loyal to America and join the American forces against India ..grow up people....there are lots of serious issues before the nation which need attention ....by the people and the politicians
RE:growing regionalism in India
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:48 AM Permalink
IF BHAIYAS CAN EARN THEIR LIVELIHOOD IN AMERICA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA...THEN WHY NOT IN MUMBAI?....WORLD IS GLOBAL...LETS C WHO STOPS WHOM TO WORK AT PLACE ACCORDING TO LIKINGS.....TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE...
RE:growing regionalism in India
by shantanu pandit on Feb 07, 2008 12:56 AM Permalink
u cant say that regionalism is rife in maharashtra...condition is far worse in punjab and delhi and haryana....people in those states openly abuse and beatup bihari's...even people from UP openly abuse bihari's
RE:growing regionalism in India
by chidamber on Feb 07, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
In fact Indians will love Mumbai anytime,Some fellas are using the divisional politics to create rift amongst the people, Elections are the right time to show this people where they stand, by not voting agianst them inspite of all the INDIANISM and we vote them, then its our badluck that we deserve what we vote and then SUFFER for the same. ALL INDIANS UNITE and oppose these regional divisor, SAY NO to REGIONLISM, be it anywhere in INDIA.
RE:RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by Rajagopal on Feb 07, 2008 12:27 AM Permalink
This guy is a trouble maker. A real gunda of sorts. Moderators, please ban this guy
RE:RE:RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by Chandra Prakash on Feb 07, 2008 12:56 AM Permalink
This Rajagopalan is a pucca Porki if he has called me a trouble maker and he is a pucca Indian if said the same for that dirty Monohar.....
RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:34 AM Permalink
thanks chandara...wat a view u have towards so called indians.lets not forget that mumbai is part of india and there is no such article in our constitutions which says mumbai belongs to only marathi manoos.how can u think of flurishing in life leaving out ur mother and father..can you? our india is such like that. if bihar and UP is lagging in some respect then lets come together and join hands to safeguard our integrity...its not only the GDP of mumbai which counts for the agregate of india...it constitutes the entire nation...its my humble request to all the citizens to stop brawl over who belongs to which state...lets have collective responsibilty...
RE:RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by Chandra Prakash on Feb 07, 2008 12:57 AM Permalink
Sudeep Puttar, I am trying to fashion India in my style.... Take it or leave it.......
RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by Chandra Prakash on Feb 07, 2008 12:26 AM Permalink
... and you eat their shit, Mr.Manohar. Or else you would not have replied in this fashion.
RE:RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by Chandra Prakash on Feb 07, 2008 12:54 AM Permalink
No chance. I am a Tamil and better than any ghaties, Mr. Manohar.
RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by Rajagopal on Feb 07, 2008 12:26 AM Permalink
So what? they are Indians, Jo bi hein, jaise bhi hein, Hindustani toh hein?
RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by Creative Online on Feb 07, 2008 01:25 AM Permalink
The problem is that people dont want to create their identity by hard work and perseverance. They want a readymade identity.
RE:RE:Let us not mix up ...........
by Chandra Prakash on Feb 07, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
Hi Mallika, chalo kahin milte hain. Khub jamegi tumhari aur meri.....
India needs to adopt the federal structure, where the 5 key constituencies of Defense, Finance, Foreign affairs, Space Research and Atomic Energy handled by the Central Government.
All the rest including URBAN AFFAIRS, RAILWAYS, TRADE, INDUSTRY, COMMERCE and IT the states can induvidually handle according to their own merit.
All the hue and cry come from backword states whose state governments and politicians are themselves responsible for their own neglect, and to cover their own failures they have to critisize people and governments of the developed states.
Therefore in India there are 2 groups here :- developed states of Maharashtra, Tamilnadu, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Kerala, Gujrath, Delhi, Hariyana, Punjab and also Himachal .
That leaves the BIMARU - Cow belt states who have themselves to do the retrospection. uncontrolled and excessive migration to Mumbai needs to be controlled. The cities saturation point has already arrived. It cannot take any more people. We in Mumbai are 2 crore in a city designed only for 1 crore. DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND THAT???
RE:India need to be a Federal country
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:49 AM Permalink
IF BHAIYAS CAN EARN THEIR LIVELIHOOD IN AMERICA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA...THEN WHY NOT IN MUMBAI?....WORLD IS GLOBAL...LETS C WHO STOPS WHOM TO WORK AT PLACE ACCORDING TO LIKINGS.....TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE...
RE:RE:India need to be a Federal country
by shantanu pandit on Feb 07, 2008 12:53 AM Permalink
nobody is stopping people from UP and Bihar from coming 2 maharashtra.....but if they come...then live properly..why disturb and harass locals
RE:India need to be a Federal country
by Chandra Prakash on Feb 07, 2008 12:27 AM Permalink
.... and this Konkan Puttar have no knowledge about Bengal......
RE:India need to be a Federal country
by manoj kumar on Feb 07, 2008 12:23 AM Permalink
Open your eyes. Don't call Maharashtra developed and the same holds for Tamilnadu and Andhra Pradesh. MNCs don't develop you. Kerala, Gujarat and Punjab are much better. Delhi is the capital!
RE:India need to be a Federal country
by shantanu pandit on Feb 07, 2008 12:51 AM Permalink
maharashtra has 3rd highest per capita income in india..and was ranked 3rd by TV today....I have lived in delhi and punjab as well....i have seen UP and Bihar. any village in maharashtra is far better than patna or lucknow. northern states are culturally much backward.
RE:India need to be a Federal country
by Mallika Sherawat on Feb 07, 2008 12:28 AM Permalink
You KONKANI s*onnn offf Biit*ch . You don't need KONKAN state. Are you going to run your state by selling fish.
Remember Mohammad Ali Jinnah? He demanded Pakistan be carved out to be dedicated for Muslims. He asked other not to worry about Muslims. He said Muslims are self sufficient.
Raj Thakre does the same but after 70 years of first demand. Let's accept the fact, Bangaloreans have equal rights on Bombay as do Mumbaikars. Bombay is feeding the country, we are all proud of this wonderful city. We dislike it being made a chauvinistic point.
RE:Raj Thakre turning the issue into another Pakistan demand
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:52 AM Permalink
IF BHAIYAS CAN EARN THEIR LIVELIHOOD IN AMERICA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA...THEN WHY NOT IN MUMBAI?....WORLD IS GLOBAL...LETS C WHO STOPS WHOM TO WORK AT PLACE ACCORDING TO LIKINGS.....TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE...
RE:Raj Thakre turning the issue into another Pakistan demand
by Manohar on Feb 07, 2008 12:13 AM Permalink
Bangalorean means guy living in Bangalore. Stop writing nonsense.
RE:Raj Thakre turning the issue into another Pakistan demand
by Rajagopal on Feb 07, 2008 12:18 AM Permalink
I live in Bangalore and this is not nonsense. Prove why it is nonsense. It is my birth right to love Bombay/Mumbai.
RE:Raj Thakre turning the issue into another Pakistan demand
by Manohar on Feb 07, 2008 12:20 AM Permalink
No one stops you from loving Mumbai or Tokyo. Just realize the difference between living in reality and fantasy.
RE:RE:Raj Thakre turning the issue into another Pakistan demand
by Rajagopal on Feb 07, 2008 12:23 AM Permalink
You red head. I lived in Mumbai till recently before migrating to Bangalore. Leave it, red heads don't understand this, That's why they fight
RE:RE:Raj Thakre turning the issue into another Pakistan demand
by Rajagopal on Feb 07, 2008 12:21 AM Permalink
Why do you think Bangaloreans can't love Bombay? DO you own it? It belongs to the entire country, you junk head guy
RE:Raj Thakre turning the issue into another Pakistan demand
by chidamber on Feb 07, 2008 12:44 AM Permalink
U r rt why cant bangalorean, in fact Indians will love Munbai anytime,Some fela are using the divisional politics to create rift amongst the people, Elections are the right time to show this people where they stand, by not voting agianst them inspite of all the INDIANISM and we vote them, then its our badluck that we deserve what we vote and then SUFFER for the same. ALL INDIANS UNITE and oppose these regional divisor, SAY NO to REGIONLISM, be it anywhere in INDIA.
RE:Raj Thakre turning the issue into another Pakistan demand
by Jagte Raho on Feb 07, 2008 12:40 AM Permalink
All who visit Mumbai First time, falls in love with City. So any Indian can love Mumbai. No can stop & has the right to do so. Why just Mumbai ? Any Indian City / town is applicable for same. Its the few mad guys talks shit & disturbs the environment. I love Mumbai & all Mumbaikars who loves non Mumbaikars. Who is Manohar ? A Indian or religious hard headed person ?
if You both together can collect even 50% seat in any election (and show if public is with you not only gunda's ) than talk about Maharastra. You people are seamless pupile of India I wonder if you are Indian.
RE:Mr Raj and Bal
by shantanu pandit on Feb 07, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
my dear frnd abcd............bal thakarey and shivsena have ruled mumbai for more than two decades........make ur facts clear.....all maharashtrians are with him and we love him.
RE:Mr Raj and Bal
by master pharmacy on Feb 07, 2008 12:35 AM Permalink
U as*hole bihari ...raabdi ka doodh piya he kia? kute jake bihar UP me sadho. people of Maharashtra can take and give life for Thackreys. Jai Raj Jai Maharashtra
RE:Mr Raj and Bal
by Chandra Prakash on Feb 07, 2008 01:03 AM Permalink
This Master Pharmecy is an out dated medical representative. No job. So is he so angree...
RE:Mr Raj and Bal
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:49 AM Permalink
IF BHAIYAS CAN EARN THEIR LIVELIHOOD IN AMERICA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA...THEN WHY NOT IN MUMBAI?....WORLD IS GLOBAL...LETS C WHO STOPS WHOM TO WORK AT PLACE ACCORDING TO LIKINGS.....TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE...
RE:This 'Z' must be a jehadi mussalmaan
by sudeep singh on Feb 07, 2008 12:49 AM Permalink
IF BHAIYAS CAN EARN THEIR LIVELIHOOD IN AMERICA, EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, AFRICA...THEN WHY NOT IN MUMBAI?....WORLD IS GLOBAL...LETS C WHO STOPS WHOM TO WORK AT PLACE ACCORDING TO LIKINGS.....TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE...
RE:Ghatis please understand...
by Manohar on Feb 07, 2008 12:00 AM Permalink
Marathi people are much better than cow belt people. you should preach your Bihar, MP, UP.
RE:Ghatis please understand...
by marathi superman on Feb 07, 2008 12:05 AM Permalink
it is painful to read such non realistic statements from you. It is easy to write here but it is getting difficult to travel in local trains day by day. Courtecy the daily loads of migrants from up and bihar.If you are not able to develope ur states then u should give ur state to rest of india to rule and develope. But fact is that u and ur govt is not even trying to do it.is it not pathetic mr zinda hoon?
RE:Ghatis please understand...
by deepak on Feb 07, 2008 12:09 AM Permalink
dude...why r u using provocative language...i am staying in mumbai and not a maharashtrian (please dont use word ghati. its abusive) but i can say what u r saying is utter rubbish and in fact people like u r giveing opportunity to politians. i dont think u r staying in mumbai but if u r then u shd quit the city. why r u staying with people whom u have such a low opinion... Guyz, dont drag marathi community into this. SS or MNS doesnt have large support of marathi people. if they had, they would have ruled forever but fact is that they came into power only once that too with the help of bjp. by draging marathis, we r indirectly helping politians like raj.
Looking at the issues of Mumbai and Marathi, I challenge to have an open debate at Shivaji Park grounds against any politician. I am a naturalised Maharashtrian and can speak/read/write better Marathi than any local.
The issues faced every day by a common Mumbaikar are :
01) Water availability
02) Hygienic living conditions and
03) Comfortable commute
Any other issue is ridiculous. Mumbai has equal job opportunities, space to live and courage to unite. If one is a politician - irrespective of whether in power or poosition - I would like to know, what the person has done with his own hands. Dividing people is easy, I can do it with my oratory skills.
RE:CHALLENGE....
by Peter Parker on Feb 07, 2008 12:45 AM Permalink
If there are 10 trainloads of bhaiyyas coming in every day, where do you think the water is going to come from to feed the population? This applies to all the resources needed for the city. The basic problem is the failed states of UP and Bihar. The result is the en-masse migration to Mumbai. And how do you propose we handle them, give them our homes and land and start speaking the bhaiyya language?
RE:RE:CHALLENGE....
by Abhishek on Feb 07, 2008 12:06 AM Permalink
as i have said before in various forums in different websites.. I'll say it again... in India.. politics is not a career a person who is genuinely selfless and wants to do good can enter.. there is no way he/she can survive.. the current lot are far too powerful
RE:CHALLENGE....
by Babul Roy on Feb 07, 2008 12:18 AM Permalink
There is a difference between being powerful and having a nuisance value. The current politicians have more of the later !
RE:CHALLENGE....
by Abhishek on Feb 06, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
no politician will ever come face to face with the common man in a debate because he/she knows they will be slammed.
RE:CHALLENGE....
by Babul Roy on Feb 07, 2008 12:02 AM Permalink
Isn't it a time, we guys enter politics ? Coutry has given us enough, now is the payback time.
