India had last month launched an Israeli satellite, which reportedly could be used to spy on Iran..... it is beingg used lol! iranians alwas supported india over pak and this is what u get in return!
RE:could be..??
by Vasanth Srinivas on Feb 06, 2008 06:16 AM Permalink
Even if you dont have the technology in your home, i wonder how u got an internet connection and a PC to type this BS
RE:could be..??
by JonBonJovi on Feb 06, 2008 10:15 AM Permalink
Attatar Yena u can have all the luxury to say anything abt pakistan islam taliban iran iraq but i cant talk abt india? coz u own it? do u even own a bike? Vasanth! mate u dun know anything about technology! we have internets telefones everything lol better than u!u must have heard of Braun in usa where u reside but in pakistan its present since 70!and india saw it in 90's just dun gimme this s hit ok!techno all i know abt u is that u all sit in call centers and cry abt tech tech tech still ur 3rd world!
RE:could be..??
by Attatar Yena on Feb 06, 2008 05:51 AM Permalink
A Paki should have have nothing to say on this issue. Actually I can smel some smoke here ...
India should refrain from dealing with israel. A counrty which is illegaly occupying and involved in genocide. Also India should take into consideration of its sizeable muslim population and the islamic world.
RE:dont go the israel way
by on Feb 06, 2008 02:54 AM Permalink
Naqvi, using your argument, India should refrain from dealing with China; she occupies a million square miles of ours in NEFA; Pakistan that occupies our state of Kashmir; Russians who occupy Chechnya; Turkey, occupies Kurdistan, Iran, occupies Kurdistan, Saudi Arabia, occupies parts of Yemen, Americans, Canadians and Australians who occupy lands of their First Nations, the list is just endless. As for the sentiments of millions of Muslims in India, what about the sentiments of 900 million Hindus. We Hindus want Israel as our friend. Naqvi, Jinnah created Pakistan exactly for guys like you with such sentiments. If you don%u2019t like it here, hey, move on to Dharti Soni Pakistan where they pursue polices appealing to your sentiments. India's foreign policy is based on our national interest and not designed to appeal to the religious sentiments of the Islamic world.
RE:RE:dont go the israel way
by naqvi on Feb 06, 2008 03:00 AM Permalink
Its not just occupation but daily human right violation which is counted. India should take into consideration of muslim sentiments too. Also many indians are working and doing flourishing business in gulf and we get some prvilige from gulf countries all these should be taken into consideration.
RE:dont go the israel way
by Vasanth Srinivas on Feb 06, 2008 06:19 AM Permalink
"Illegal Occupation of Israel"... What about the "Occupation of Kashmir" and POK...? What about the Pandits who were driven out from Kashmir still living in tents...? All these are acceptable and lawful in "islamic" world...LOL... You cry when someone nabs your place. When you do the same, you reverse the law. Forgot the newton's third law of motion...?
RE:dont go the israel way
by JonBonJovi on Feb 06, 2008 10:25 AM Permalink
Vasanth! its india thats occupying Kashmir with 700,000 troops!by makin maharaja hari singh to free Sh Abdullah whow as in jail for 11 years on Nehrus precondition for help and then instating him CM!agreeing to UN plebscite and shouting "we dont want forced marriages and forced unifications" Ur PM Nehru backed off by saying that plebscite isnt possible coz of environment yet running mock elections many times in which no one participated and most got elected unopposed!Krishna Menon ur FM famously had said india will never go for plebscite as it knows it will certainly loose kashmir!read history!lol and if 7 lakh forces cant stop"so called infilteration" then ur army really needs israeli army training thats being provided!thats waht indian policy!support palestine and launch space shuttles to monitor iran!backoff from gas pipe line coz uncle sam advised u this to get a bid for security council seat LOL! keep dancing with the wolves until the music gets loud!
RE:dont go the israel way
by on Feb 06, 2008 03:52 AM Permalink
Naqvi, what about the daily human rights violation in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan and other Muslim countries? Should we take that also into consideration in defining our relationships with these nations just as we should do with Israel (as per your train of thinking)? Did Muslim countries respect the Hindu or Indian sentiments every time they voted with Pakistan on Kashmir? If we benefit from working in the Gulf, the local Arabs benefit from our knowledge base, experience, hard work and total dedication to the successes of the local Arabs businesses. We are there not by their mercy but because we are some of the very best on the block. If it was otherwise, the Arabs (they are smart business men), would have already replaced us. So what consideration are we then talking about? Naqvi, understand this - India's interest are not necessarily married to Muslim interests. Our interests are the interests on 1.2 billion that includes also 1 billion Hindus. Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists and Sikhs and none of them seem to have a problem with our relationship. Since we are a democracy where the majority rules, should the majority sentiments be not respected? I hope you understand we are not a Muslim nation or one of those banana republics that is at the mercy of Muslim nations. We are free and proud Indians who have taken our destiny into our own hands.
RE:dont go the israel way
by Buttanna S on Feb 06, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
Mr. Naqvi
Every country acts for it's national interest. Even Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have often banned issue of visas to Pakistani & Bangladeshi nationals as the people from these countries were involved in drug trafficking, prostitution and many other illegal activities. Those governments did not bother about muslim sentiments but about their countries interests.
Mr. Naqvi, I hope you will spare some thoughts and actions in favour of the Kashmiri Pandits, millions of impoverished Indians. Foremost show your anger against the terrorists and cooperate with the Indian society in apprehending them and putting an end to terrorism.
RE:Kashmir
by Ali on Feb 06, 2008 12:51 AM Permalink
Back in 2000 Iran made clear to pakistan that it will not support "liberation struggle" in Kashmir
India should look at the long term relationships it had with Iran and not sacrifice it for making new friends. Israel is more a liability and has utter disregard for human rights. Look at US today, it is bearing paying the price for supporting Israel blindly.
RE:India should not lean too much towards Israel
by on Feb 06, 2008 02:42 AM Permalink
Ali, Iran is a liability for whom? For India or for your Muslim sentiments? What long term interests are you talking about? Would Iran sell India oil cheaper than what it sells the rest of the world to pursue long term interests? Would Iran sign a treaty to assist India in the event of a future conflict with Pakistan? Israel will. Israel has already assisted India secure our borders and stem to a very great extent the flow of Jihadis from Pakistan. Can Iran help us do the same? Israel has utter disregard for human rights. Really? So what about Iran? Is executing children and homosexuals respect for human rights? Is persecution of minorities respect for human rights? Is torture of political opponents to the regime in Tehran respect for human rights? At every level, Israel is a functioning democracy with a far better record of human rights as compared to Iran. India has every right to pursue policies that further her military and economic interests with every nation of her choice and such decisions are based on the hard reality on the ground and not idealism in some La La Land.
RE:India should not lean too much towards Israel
by JonBonJovi on Feb 06, 2008 10:30 AM Permalink
Prasad Gopinath Toronto walay! u wrote an i qoute "What long term interests are you talking about? Would Iran sell India oil cheaper than what it sells the rest of the world to pursue long term interests? Would Iran sign a treaty to assist India in the event of a future conflict with Pakistan? Israel will. Israel has already assisted India secure our borders and stem to a very great extent the flow of Jihadis from Pakistan" ill just say beggars cant be choosers!always relied on russians now on US/israelis! LOL and by the way what are u doing in toronto? lol makin india proud?or makin some dollars? cant u make them in great india? and btw israel is helpin u coz pakistan airforce helped arab nations war of 1967 by flying fighter jets for egyptians and jordanians and by downing many israeli planes prompting israeli air cheif to say some words abt AM Nur Khan google it! they will help u lol
RE:India should not lean too much towards Israel
by raj sreedhar on Feb 06, 2008 02:24 AM Permalink
Hey Ali, US is not paying the price.You idiots are split up and killing each other. US people are doing fine. No car bombs or suside bombs going off. Yes, indeed we need Isreali friendship, It is a non-muslim nation like India. So much in common. Hell with your Islamic fundamental BS. No muslim nation is going to tell India how to run foreign policy.
RE:India should not lean too much towards Israel
by Buttanna S on Feb 06, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
Ali,
Iran sided with Pakistan in both 1965 and 1971 wars. It's protege Gulbudin Hekmetyar in Afghanistan was even worse than the Taliban. It enters into international treaties and flouts them brazenly. No country in the world held embassy staff illegaly as hostage for more than a year against all international law. It signs NPT and clandestinely involves in nuclear activities. It never had any democratic principles or values for human rights.
Ali, why are you sympathetic to Iran? Is it because you are a muslim? Don't you have any other consideration?
It is unfortunate that this alone matters and nothing else.
Hey does this diplomat know that delay in the Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline and the fact that Iran does not supply crude to India at a deep discount and it does not allow freedom to practise religions of Indian origin in Iran irks India very much too?
Iran is soley responsible for the mess it has landed itself in. First they signed NPT ( which forbids atomic weapons) and now they want to break that treaty by building atomic weapons. DO thy think the world will keep quite ?? Instead of feeling irked about India the iranians should ask their 'rhesus' faced ahmedinejad to shut up about holocaust
RE:Send this Ambassador of Iran back to Iran for criticizing hos country and its policy
by arul george on Feb 06, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
I think its not wise for india to support indescriminately, since it only will aid in creating further dicontent in the area. Moreover we has a moral obligation being the only sensible democratic country in the area to create stability in the area. moreover iran is geagraphically useful for india and maintaining friendship with them will help us a long way in retsricting pakistan in its western front also iran is the only muslim country which has oppposed pakistans involvement in kashmir
RE:Send this Ambassador of Iran back to Iran for criticizing hos country and its policy
by raj sreedhar on Feb 05, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
Believe it or not, Iran can provoke the the Muslim population in India. This is what he is upto. They have no business to control our foreign policy. We are getting training and help from Isreal to fight the Islamist in Kashmir. Do you think Iran will help India in this matter? I bet they play nutral game.
It is in India's interests to have close ties with Israel. India should not bother about Iranian concerns. In fact it is not in the interest of the region and the world to allow Iran to possess nukes. It is in our interest to keep a close watch on the Iranian nuclear program.
RE:Iranian concerns
by raj sreedhar on Feb 05, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
Iran has no right to tell India whom we can have militray ties. Iran and Pak are natural allies in many ways. Islamic states are united at the end. Whom we have? Isreal is a Jewish state and India is the only Hindu state in the world just like Isreal. We have some thing in common.
RE:Iranian concerns
by Konad Dutta on Feb 06, 2008 03:18 AM Permalink
umm. Isn't India a secular state. Bottom line wether we line up with Isreal or Iran is whether we still have the moral compass that we used to be so proud of. Development need not be and should not be at the cost of values. Isn't it a lil hypocritical on our part to all of a sudden have a completely different world view just because we are growing at 9% pa, isn't is possible that India which was the moral compass of the world can have a more holistic view of development instead of trying to take advantage of countries by making strategic friendships. We need to remember " what goes around comes around" :) Cheers
