After the incidence took place at IISc where I was working earlier;the security was beefed up...but now they generally dont check the ID's, vehicles without the IISc pass labels are still allowed inside the premiseswithout any enquiry....there are very much loop holes available till today, to make another such incidence happen..easily.
Now a days seems muslim parents doesnt want their kids and trying to send madrasas and from their to become terrorist, I humbly request the parents not to throw your kids to the hands if you dont wants children try to find someother way.
RE:Parents , dont kill your kids
by Azeem on Feb 06, 2008 07:35 AM Permalink
Friend, I am and so are, I am sure, many Muslims, on the same page as you in condemming and despising such crimes. I wish you,d use the word ' some' instead of branding all with one brush.The sad part is that because of such people, all of us get a bad name.
RE:Parents , dont kill your kids
by Sikandar Mala on Feb 06, 2008 08:07 AM Permalink
Azeem, I second your feelings! yes SOME muslims are giving a bad rap to the whole religion! I sincerely hope all, that includes every religion irrespective of social status and class, strive for peace! bad apples are in every religion!! let us unite with love NOT hatred!!!
RE:RE:Parents , dont kill your kids
by V H on Feb 06, 2008 10:25 AM Permalink
what a standard reply "Bad apples are in every religion" The question is not about apples, the question here is why Islman creates more number of terrorists all over the world? Don't bring LTTE into picture. LTTE is fighting for language not for religion.
RE:Parents , dont kill your kids
by on Feb 06, 2008 10:42 AM Permalink
Why does Islam create more number of terrorists? I think that is an unfair question. You see, at different points in history, certain religions are perceived more extreme than others... Sikhism during Operation bluestar period.. christianity during crusades (i am a christian)... hinduism in sporadic riots(babri masjid)... any religion/community which is oppressed reacts to its oppressors... moreover, muslim parents send their children for the lack of understanding on their part/ inaccessibility to better education facilities... one cannot judge a community by the actions of a few however much their impact may be... Btw, terrorism is a new age word.. ppl who fought the crusades/ demolished babri masjid may also be called terrorists under this definition (they instill terror)!... dont be pessimistic about the world... its definitely improving!
RE:Parents , dont kill your kids
by ajith v on Feb 06, 2008 10:49 AM Permalink
practically thinking demolishing a building is different and killing thousands of human being is different whoever it may be, also Inida is very much pissed off with islamic terrorists,w hat they want, not getting idea, why killing people, one more thing still govt is supporting the terrorist like parliament attack terrorist so that they know the punishment will be less, so they are active..
A top cleric of the Lal Masjid in Islamabad has claimed that more than one lakh suicide bombers, including 10,000 in the two madrassas controlled by him, were present in Pakistan and were ready to explode at the command of their superiors. These suicide attackers are ready to operate anywhere and anytime in Pakistan, Red Mosques head cleric Abdul Aziz said. We consider suicide attacks are right in Pakistan under a few circumstances while we consider them as absolutely justified in the context of Afghanistan and Iraq, he was quoted by The News as saying. We favoured the Taliban not only in the past, we favour them even today. The Red Mosque-controlled madrassas for boys and girls has thousands of students. The burqa-clad girl students and the bamboo sticks-wielding boys have been giving a tough time to police in the capital since January. Aziz denied the criticism from the opposition parties that he and his brother, who had been demanding imposition of Sharia law, were being used by intelligence agencies to counter the challenge posed by the suspension of Chief Justice Iftikhar M Chaudhry. We are not operating under the command of any agency.
Every where now a days in the name of jihadi, muslims becom terrorist, even hoighly educated students, i can see some comments that these are not muslims and all, dono why the people are agreeing even if saw truth in front of their eyes, only god can make them good
RE:Atleast educated muslims work against terrorism
by Johny Dayal on Feb 06, 2008 05:08 AM Permalink
Muslims want to kill & exterminate non-Muslims so that they can enjoy virgins in pig skins. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity. Muslim-exclusive IITs and IIMs, Muslim-exclusive Kendriya Vidyalayas, Muslim-exclusive scholarships and banks and the rest exclusive to Muslims. Are such Muslim-exclusive institutions solutions for the problems of Muslims? Or being exclusive is the VERY CAUSE of their problems?
RE:RE:Atleast educated muslims work against terrorism
by Azeem on Feb 06, 2008 07:42 AM Permalink
Being exclusive is the very reason for the problems. I strongly urge Muslim parents to send their children to secular institutions for their education so that they interact with, befriend, and understand others and grow to be decent citizens.
RE:Atleast educated muslims work against terrorism
by Johny Dayal on Feb 06, 2008 04:58 AM Permalink
When Congress & Commie secular fundamentalists tell you that lack of education for Muslims is the root cause of terrorism never believe that since all Indian terrorists are highly educated.
RE:Atleast educated muslims work against terrorism
by Johny Dayal on Feb 06, 2008 04:51 AM Permalink
Everywhere Islam has descended there was nothing but bloodshed, dictatorship, devastation, terror, economic collapse and misery in its wake. As for Islam itself it hasnot produced one thing except suicide vests, jihad, disaster and misery for those who believed in it, making them a burden in every way on the human race by spreading the teaching of that holy Koran with its doctrine of hate in every country that opened its arms to receive them. They fled the peace and tolerance of Islam in their Islamic dominated countries of origin to fulfill their dreams in the countries of Hindus, Buddhists, Christians and Jews. Now we live in fear of that same Koranic peace and tolerance preached in every mosque, where Hindus, Jews, Christians are cursed 17 times a day. The Koranic concept of Muslims integration is the complete subjugation of all non-Muslims. The reason there is less number of suicide-bombers in India at present is because of peace-loving Hindu blood is still flowing in their converted veins. You got a country of Pakistan & Bangladesh for Muslims, why are you still creating every conceivable problem for the people left behind. Learn to live & let live.
RE:Atleast educated muslims work against terrorism
by Azeem on Feb 06, 2008 07:40 AM Permalink
I just replied to a mail by a gentleman named Ajith and, friend, I repeat my message to you. Honest to God, I have never cursed anyone, I follow my faith alone and respect every faith deeply and have good friends from all faiths too. I am sure there are many Muslims like me. There is nothing in any faith that teaches hatred to anyone. It is sad that these criminals have hijacked religion and even brought people like us under the shadow of doubt. I hate and condemn and urge the powers that be to come down heavily on terrorists as you do.
RE:Atleast educated muslims work against terrorism
by brg on Feb 06, 2008 10:06 AM Permalink
Hi Azeem, I am not a muslim, but i totally aggree with your view that some people must have done bad things and based on that one can't judge evryone. May be you do not have to respond to all these massages posted by a bunch of jokers who does not have any work. They are born to spread hatred.
RE:Atleast educated muslims work against terrorism
by V H on Feb 06, 2008 10:28 AM Permalink
brg, people like you are responsible for creation of states like Afghanistan and Pakistan. Non muslims said the same thing you are repeating and look where they have progressed today. Thanks to few in India that we are able to question Islam. Sometime, somewhere this religion should catch up with time. Its not 6th century anymore its 2008 dude.
Give back the power to the minority community who can rule with checks and balances since democracy is not fit when majority community votes to imposes rules on minority without any checks or balances. Minority rule is more neutral than Majority rule.
RE:Resolution to all problems
by ajith v on Feb 06, 2008 04:51 AM Permalink
why always worrying that ur minority and all,as of now most of the political leaders and mafia goonda , rich people are from minority, why uw ant again full top m inority again,if any muslim beome primininster Inida will be like Afganistan, remember even u will suffer at that time
RE:Resolution to all problems
by Confused Mind on Feb 06, 2008 04:45 AM Permalink
You can tell this to all Islamic countries who have no concept of minorities ... Already, Africa is becoming Middle-East and Middle-East is becoming Africa ... They keep praying ...
RE:Resolution to all problems
by r patil on Feb 06, 2008 04:44 AM Permalink
We are ruled by minority,if you beleive that majority is ruling us than you are wrong.Anyway will all the nations follow this example of minority rule to keep check and balance,like say arabia and the western christain nations ?
RE:Resolution to all problems
by Johny Dayal on Feb 06, 2008 04:45 AM Permalink
I am an atheist who respects any real religion apart from Islam. The reason for that is that I can well see the real danger in your blood curdling religion you call Islam.I saw a Syrian born Muslim woman on the television the other day she is one of the few Muslim persons to speak out openly against the evil of your religion her name is WAFA SULTAN and I recommend to everyone to search on the net for her work. The world needs more people like her because the changes needed in the Muslim world will only come from people like WAFA SULTAN.
One of the maddening realities of modern India is that the pseudo secular politicians and Marxists are not worrying about safety and security of the country. They are worrying about appeasement and special privileges for Muslims. The greatest threat is from the selfish opportunism from politicians who are ideologically inclined toward appeasement and surrender. They invariably dismiss or underestimate the Islamic terrorist threat, as well as Pakistan involvement. Rather than confronting Jihadi terrorists, they prefer appeasement and unconditional positive regard and non-judgmental attitude towards Pakistan trained Jihadi terrorists. This special treatment for Muslims has forced Hindus to face pure Jihadi wickedness in a way we had not in generations. Bogus secularists and the Marxists have been scorning Hindus for their tolerant, spiritual faith. It is fashionable for them to mock Hindus, but have a blind spot about Jihadi terrorists. Bleeding-heart Human Rights activists and phony liberals could accomplish for more if they are willing to battle against Islamic terrorists.
RE:RE:Two Time Pulitzer Prize winning author's ground breaking New Book
by Johny Dayal on Feb 06, 2008 04:10 AM Permalink
One of the maddening realities of modern India is that the pseudo secular politicians and Marxists are not worrying about safety and security of the country. They are worrying about appeasement and special privileges for Muslims. The greatest threat is from the selfish opportunism from politicians who are ideologically inclined toward appeasement and surrender. They invariably dismiss or underestimate the Islamic terrorist threat, as well as Pakistan involvement. Rather than confronting Jihadi terrorists, they prefer appeasement and unconditional positive regard and non-judgmental attitude towards Pakistan trained Jihadi terrorists. This special treatment for Muslims has forced Hindus to face pure Jihadi wickedness in a way we had not in generations. Bogus secularists and the Marxists have been scorning Hindus for their tolerant, spiritual faith. It is fashionable for them to mock Hindus, but have a blind spot about Jihadi terrorists. Bleeding-heart Human Rights activists and phony liberals could accomplish for more if they are willing to battle against Islamic terrorists.
RE:RE:RE:Two Time Pulitzer Prize winning author's ground breaking New Book
by Partha Choudhury on Feb 06, 2008 04:16 AM Permalink
I don't see any difference between you and the "pseudo-secularists" "marxists" ... both are obcessed with muslims - same magnitude, different directions. If you want the problem to go away, then you have to start looking at people like human beings, rather than Hindu-Muslim, Black-White, Man-Woman...
RE:RE:RE:RE:Two Time Pulitzer Prize winning author's ground breaking New Book
by Azeem on Feb 06, 2008 07:46 AM Permalink
Though I am a practising Muslim, I, in the larger context, beg to disagree with your viewpoint. Agreed one must see a human being as a human being and not as belonging to one community or the other but the unfortunate truth is that too many Muslims are indulging in too much hate and the Muslim identity inevitable shows up.The sad part is that genuine, secular, good Muslims are placed under the scanner for no fault of their own.
