Its a pity that young generation is lured in the name of god to jihad and a religion is sadly hurt by this phenomenon . i think the madrasa education can do wonders to the muslim community if they could resist the younger generation being lured to jihad by giving proper insight to islam and its principles and what actually islam preaches.all the community leaders should come forward and fight against this phenomenen where the name of the community is being tranished by the terrorist tag.
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by JGN on Feb 04, 2008 12:13 PM Permalink
Then close down all Madrassas and stop teaching The Koran (also the scripts of all other religions). That is the best way to ensure that alteast the minds of future generations are not polluted.
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by JGN on Feb 04, 2008 12:20 PM Permalink
Yes, ofcourse and I am quite sure that they are systematically brain-washing the young minds to "fight in the casue of Allah" and entice them to commit terrorist activites in the name of "rewards" in the Islamic Paradise. Unfotunately the "Paradise" existed only in the fertile imagination of Mohammed. The poor fellow could think of women, wine, water, fruits, etc in in the "Paradise" !!!!!!!!!
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by Mohan Kini on Feb 04, 2008 01:33 PM Permalink
Dear JGN, Well said.It is said that these youngsters (both educated & uneducated/partly educated)are brainwashed to becom jihadi fighters/terrorists by luring them that if they die in their unholly terror mission they would go to so called their muslim Paradise & enjoy 21 Jannat ke Hurs! As if these younsters live here on the earth in peace they would'nt get any wives here.Of course here on earth they are permitted to have maximum four wives but not 21 !
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by arun bn on Feb 04, 2008 02:09 PM Permalink
PART 2
Prophet Muhammad was commanded by God to inform that he was not the only Messenger of God to the world [Al Qur%u2019an 46:9]. Scholars say that there had been some 124,000 Prophet sent to the world who preached in the language of the respective people [A Qur%u2019an 14:4]. The true religion they preached and their scriptures got corrupted with passage of time (with the exception of Al Qur%u2019an). However, the message on the last and greatest Prophet Muhammad is retained till date in the scriptures of all major world religions.
We are presenting here some interesting information from these Books so that adherents to these religions (as also Muslims) come to know that Messenger is not alien to them.
Kalki Puran
This is a holy book of Hindus describing the advent of the last, the tenth Avtar to come. An Avatar is considered an incarnation of God, who appears on earth whenever religion declines and evil abounds, and corrects the situation. He is of high character and miraculous powers but subject to predestination and morality. If the term %u2018human representative of God%u2019 is substituted for %u2018incarnation of God%u2019 this description will fit the Islamic concept of Prophet . The signs and events of the final Avatar Kalki point out to final Prophet Muhammad . They fit those of Muhammad neatly and perfectly. They are as follows;
RE:RE:terror
by arun bn on Feb 04, 2008 02:08 PM Permalink
There is an interesting information in Bhavishya Purana that Mahaamad would appear to Bhoj, ruler of Dhar, and say that he would establish the religion of meat eaters, by the command of Ishwar i.e. God. There is a tradition that long afterwards, Bhoj got terrified on seeing the full moon split into two. Learned men consulted holy books and told him that it was one of the signs of the Universal Master to be born in a country to the West. Bhoj sent his minister to Prophet in Arabia, who named the king Abdullah. The Tomb of Abdullah is still there at Dhar. (Refer Fig.1)
(3) Mahabharat
This is a Hindu epic describing the struggle and triumph of good against evil. It was written by sage Vyas who also authored Bhavishya Purana. Mahabharata says that in the last eon called Kali Yug (in which we now live) a great sage will appear with name Mahaamad. He would preach about unity of God. He will be driven away from his native place by his own folk. By him the world would get peace. (Islam means peace).
Mahabharat further says that cloud will provide him shade. It is recorded in history that Buhaira, the Christian priest of Syria observed this sign with Muhammad e in his boyhood and identified him as the last Prophet anticipated for millennia.
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by arun bn on Feb 04, 2008 02:09 PM Permalink
Kalki will appear in the last on Kali Yug and will be the guide for the entire world. * He will be born on the 12th day of the month. Prophet as born on 12th Of Rabiyyul Awwal). * His parents will be : Vishnu Bhagat and Soomati meaning servant of God (the Cherisher) and peace. (Messenger%u2019s father%u2019s name was Abdullah, God%u2019s servant and mother was Amina refuge giver which includes the idea of %u2018peace%u2019.)
* He will be with a beauty par-excellence. His body will be fragrant. * He will get wisdom on a mountain. (Messenger was conferred Prophethood on Mt.Hira) * He will receive a horse from God, which will be faster than lightning. Riding it he will go around the earth and seven skies. (During Mi%u2019raj Prophet got Buraq meaning lightning and toured the entire universe.)
Kalki will split the moon. Like Bhoj, Cheraman (Zamorin) Perumal the ruler of Indian kingdom of Kerala, witnessed splitting of the moon performed by Prophet . After gathering the facts he sailed to Arabia and became Muslim at Prophet%u2019s hand. His Tomb is near the city of Salala in Oman
The word %u2018Kalki is considered to be a basic word, a noun without a meaning, as against attribute - based or action - based ones. The preceding Hindu Books either give attribute based name in sanskrit to the Last Prophet or Arabic name, which is also attribute based. The author thinks that %u2018Kalki%u2019 is the Sanskrit transliteration of the Arabic %u2018Khalqi%u2019 meaning creation (concrete noun). He is celebrated by Muslims as being;
There is no doubt that God sent Prophets to people of India. There is no mention of any Indian Prophet or scripture in Holy Qur%u2019an. But Bukhari records Prophet Muhammad as saying he was enjoying breeze wafting from India laden with fragrance of Tawhid (unity of God). The four Vedas (scriptures) of Hindus and their epics are said to be 5000-10,000 years old. They contain a great deal of monotheistic ideas, and of course, prophecies on h Muhammad .
(1) Atharva Veda
A chapter called Kuntapa Sukt of Atharva Veda is said to be very obscure in meaning and its theme, inscrutable. But it readily makes sense if looked at with history of Prophet . One verse as translated from Sanskrit language reads; Hear O people! Narashans will be praised. O Kaurama! We got 60,090 people from our enemies.
The word Narashans means the %u2018Praised one%u2019 and the sentence %u2018praised one will be praised%u2019 is peculiar. Here Narashans is a proper noun, Muhammad in Arabic! Kaurama means emigrant muhajir that Prophet was. It also means spreader of peace - peace in Arabic is being salam or Islam! 60,000 was the population of Makkah who eventually embraced Islam.
The first line of the next verse is translated as; O Chanter (or Praiser)! Enjoy like a bird on a tree full of fruits. Praiser in Arabic is Ahmad, the other name of Prophet . The verse compares beautifully with the Qur%u2019anic verses 14:24,25 describing Kalima Tayyiba (%u201CThere is no god but Allah%u201D) as a tree firmly rooted (i
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by arun bn on Feb 04, 2008 02:11 PM Permalink
(1) Awwal ul Khalki First of creations (2) Khair il Khalki Best of creations (3) Awf al Khalki Foremost out of creations (4) Akram al Khalki Greatest of creations
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by arun bn on Feb 04, 2008 02:08 PM Permalink
The Veda talks about a great sage named Mamaha that means; honoured or famed Muhammad, again. The Veda mentions a mysterious set of numbers are associated with objects that the sage would possess. They are simply incomprehensible. These are; 100 gold coins 10 garlands, 300 horses and 10,000 cows. They can very well be approximate references respectively to the first batch of Mekkan emigrants to Abyssinia; 10 companions who were designated by Prophet as sure entrants to paradise; 313 companions of Battle of Badr and 10,000 companions at the invasion on Makkah.
(2) Bhavishya Puran
This is a Sanskrit work of prophecies. The title means %u2018Book of the Future%u2019. Since Hinduism is based in India it was, and still is, taken for granted that its sages will be born in India itself. Contrary to this belief the Book says that a great master will appear in a foreign country (mlechcha acharya) and live in a sandy region (marusthal). His name will be Mahaaamad. Within a short span of 18 couplets Mahaamad is mentioned five times.
One couplet enumerates the main identification points of Mahaamad%u2019s followers; They will be circumcised (unknown in India); cut hair of their heads short (as against the Indian practice of long uncut hair knotted into a bun), keep beards call out at top voice (for prayers - Azan) and will be omnivorous (i.e. eat vegetarian as well as meat). The class of Hindu religious masters are strict vegetarians). They will be known as Musalay! These details will complete
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by cracy on Feb 04, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
Islam is not th eroot cross. Afghanisatan is not because its muslim its more because it was undecided whether to go for ommuist or to democarst. Palestine is not because of muslim its like jews all over displaced by german are be settled by removing palestine who happen to be muslim. Kashmir is not because of muslim its more of faculty indian policy which didn't went all the way to accept it in true sense of indian constitutent like they did with other small kingdom within india at the time of independence. Its unfortunate that muslim gets attack in all these place and these guys unable to fight themself and with in there place are spreading. But still the large question remain who finance they operation. U cann't think of sleep if u are hungry. indian muslim even if each contribute they cann't have that much of money same with other Islamic country most of them are not well off. Gulf is rich but only the royals an dgovt. rest of them are all like middle class So how these terrorist gets the money to carry out operation even if think that they don't get monetary benefits[though it difficult to accept]
RE:terror
by Sami on Feb 04, 2008 12:12 PM Permalink
People try a lot to malign Islam. They just quote out of context and trying to show that quran teaches violence. They abuse Prophet PBUH without knowing the facts. When they have their own scriptures why don%u2019t they follow it? But they should understand that in this world muslims practicing Islam are more in number than any other people practicing their religion. They prayers are continuously taking place in this world nonstop. If it is dawn prayer in India then it will be noon prayer in Australia. With few minutes interval the prayers will be in progress all around the world nonstop. The rituals in Makka also taking place without stop. Every year increased number of Hajj pilgrims coming for the hajj pilgrimage.
Quran is the living scripture recited every minute at any part of this world. It is existing without any change. People who could not keep their scriptures alive tried to change the verses of quran and failed.
More than 60000 books have been written against Islam and quran. All vanished within days.
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by JGN on Feb 04, 2008 12:22 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>More than 60000 books have been written against Islam and quran. All vanished within days............search the internet. You can find thousands of websites against Islam.
RE:terror
by uma somappa on Feb 04, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
it is more likely u r going to be a fundamentalist, which is dangerous..... u guy questioning others bad sayings, also saying bad thing about others. u r no different from the one u critcised!!!!!!. u r also one among the many who dont tolerate others religion.
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by JGN on Feb 04, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
Dear uma somappa, I am a rationalist and I don't believe in the dogmas of any religion. I believe in the basic goodness of all human-beings. Pl visit the web of "Actual Freedom - the thrid alternative" This is an alternative to organized religion (this is not a religious of atheist site). This will atleast enrich your knowledge about the reasons for our basic instincts.
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by JGN on Feb 04, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>People who could not keep their scriptures alive tried to change the verses of quran and failed.............when will atleast educated persons like you come out of the religious dogmas??? Anything that is written today would be a million times better than The Koran!!!!!
Have you read the Gitanjali by Rabindranath Tagore? He had won Nobel Prize for that. Pl read and see the powerful images created by him with words!
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by JGN on Feb 04, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
My nameless friend, you will get offended if I write anything about Mohammed. Better leave it. Search for X-Rated Paradise of Islam and understand for yourself.
RE:terror
by on Feb 04, 2008 01:56 PM Permalink
Most uncivilised community-the muslims should be thrown out of india like mayanmar did to make the life of other citizens safe.
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by on Feb 04, 2008 12:11 PM Permalink
Quran and hate messages? Impossible ! Koran is very scientific and can science preach hate? Yes, science can be used to destroy. But Alfred Noble was a scientist, correct?
it is clear by now that education,literacy, powerty has got nothing to do with terrorisom.when all buddha brigade(politicians) will understand this. All GADDARS shud go to pak to die in the name of jihad its high time that moderate patriot muslims shud raise their voice if they thin ISLAM is a religion of piece otherwise it is now religion of pieces.
RE:educated gaddar
by on Feb 04, 2008 01:59 PM Permalink
You are rightbut as long as Congress and communists are there the Gaddars are safe as they need their votes to continue in power.
Its High time Thse cowards are shown no mercy for what they do in the name of Religion. When we go to a restaurant do we ask for a specific religion waiter to serve us food..we dont do that..They are Just trying to destroy our Unity by creating all kinds of nonsense from our Coward neighbours who cannot even survive with out outside world's help.. Its high time we stay put as a one and fight these rascals..
I am a proud Indian even my religion says no place for Traitors in the Country.
RE:Terror
by The ultimate on Feb 04, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
Gr8 one kabber.Hope more ppl like u come forward and support the cause so as to free our society from barbarism and terrorism.Cheers !
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by on Feb 04, 2008 02:03 PM Permalink
Mr. kabeer Khan if muslims can be like you who love this motherland and feel proud of being indian, hats off to you. We need muslims like you, Abdul Kalam Azad & not the fanatics who sprad hatred towards other religion. In peace we can prosper. Hats off to you
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by KABEER KHAN on Feb 04, 2008 12:13 PM Permalink
I have read enough Quran and Hadis to justify this. May be You need to take some time out in the Literature.I doubt your identity..
RE:Terror
by ramji on Feb 04, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
kabeer full appreciation to ,not that we hate muslims,we hate tham if they do terrorism thats all.if you love & respect humanity peace will prevail
RE:50KG RDX should be exploded in thier a*ss*es.............
by cracy on Feb 04, 2008 12:31 PM Permalink
No need to wast RDX for them. As a muslim i would suggest that these guys should be showed the videos of the bomb blast which cause so much of bloodshed and saddness. these guys should be shown repeatedly till they kill themself with hatred
Isn't he a bigger terrorist. Openly dividing Indians and trying to trigger a riot in Mumbai. Really shocked that rediff is not carrying any news about it.
if the Congress Govt continues .. We will soon have Terrorist Camps and Colleges in our own country .. So no one has to go pakistan / afghanistan for training..
Further everyone will be given opportunity .. Brighter students will be placed on International assignments such as US/ UK..
will these statement stand in the court?. Promptly they will deny them and inform judges that these are fabricated. Better not to leak these statements and assertain the facts if any thing can be obtained.
RE:confession of arrested
by kapil on Feb 04, 2008 12:05 PM Permalink
ha.ha....you seems to be not aware of Indian court system....ha.ha.ha...they will get bail within one or two months...bet????
RE:confession of arrested
by cracy on Feb 04, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
WEll said thats where media should come and try to find out these people. Police should also carry out full and honest investigation probably they can get more than one fish.
RE:Revised Reservation Quota By Arjun Singh for the year 2008
by Ganesh Coimbatore on Feb 04, 2008 12:13 PM Permalink
Let Arjun Sing pass it for engineering also...
I just don't get it - who financed these guys? How come college/locality/shop whwre he bought the stuff, etc could not make out about the cook making bombs
