sharp head on Feb 01, 2008 09:38 PM kicking on the chest of majority population is secularism and if any one protests he is called communal fellow.
Licking the the ass of minorities is secularism appassing minorities is secularism. if any one questions against this discrimination he is called communal person
we are 100 crore people and we have 200 crore hands to build our nation ...but still we fail pathetically ..the reason is
1) the sons of Bharat soil are made to fight among themselves in the name of unseen,unknown,undefined,never proven GOD HINDU -MUSLIM HINDU-christain upper caste -Lower caste Dalit -Brahmin naxals - police maoists -police
no Nation can ever develop as long as its own sons stay focussed and united . there is a concerted and systematic effort from foreign hands to make Indians fight within themselves so that they can rule us and also exploit the resources of BHARAT -the prime target being HUMAN RESOURCE ...
the day we realise this simple truth ,the day we break all these artifical barriers of caste,relgions and God and proclaim proudly that "WE ARE INDIANS " that day will mark the first day in the glorious victorious path of this great land BHARAT ....
RE:reason for our FAILURE
by usa on Feb 01, 2008 11:17 PM Permalink
The core issue is CASTE politics in India...
Casteism aka Hinduism in India is nothing but a covert mask of socio-economic Collusion. Vote only for candidates from your Caste. Do NOT care if he is Corrupt/Competent.
RE:reason for our FAILURE
by greatbush on Feb 02, 2008 12:10 AM Permalink
and in SAUDI ARABIA,the law discriminates aginst minority SHIA'S.All Gov positions are for majority SUNNIS..SO aka ISLAM is promoting sunnis all the ruling posts in Islam birthpalce itself.what a tyranny
RE:Secularism
by sharp head on Feb 01, 2008 09:38 PM Permalink
kicking on the chest of majority population is secularism and if any one protests he is called communal fellow.
Licking the the ass of minorities is secularism appassing minorities is secularism. if any one questions against this discrimination he is called communal person
Brand Congress and Communists and communal parties as per their proven deeds. Present Congress is the No1 enemy of secular India. Present leaders of all Communist parties are acting like guard dogs of the congress house.
Congress and communists branded BJP as Communal Congress plus communist UPA took a census based on religion: Congress reports Muslims are poor: Same time they ignored millions of poor in India. Congress made law for Muslim special recruitments: Congress made laws for in their states Muslim reservation in Job and education: Congress Prime Minister said all recourses of this nation should be given first right to Muslims ignoring once they divided this country in the name of religion and ignoring this nation having more than
RE:secular
by sharp head on Feb 01, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
SECULAR POLITICIANS GIFT
MODERN SECULARISM AND COMMUNALISM -DEFINATION by sharp head on Feb 01, 2008 09:40 PM | Hide replies
THIS IS OUR FATE IN INDIA-DEAR INDIANS
sharp head on Feb 01, 2008 09:38 PM kicking on the chest of majority population is secularism and if any one protests he is called communal fellow.
Licking the the ass of minorities is secularism appassing minorities is secularism. if any one questions against this discrimination he is called communal person
RE:secular
by Singha on Feb 01, 2008 08:14 PM Permalink
Congress has been communal and anti Hindu ever since Sardar Patel passed away and that charlatan chaapad ganju, nehru took complete charge and made it a family proprietership.
first time any indian political leader speaking in language of general indian public for comrades. anti indian, jehadi, comrades, terrorist,naxal all are working agaist indian from different platform.thanks to advani for real thinking of indian.
Atleast you are one to identify enemy of India.. None of current politician will work for India. They want power and to get power they even sell india to anybody.
You should not be thankful to any politician, they should be thankful to you as you have choosen to serve for nation. ( and not to rule nation)
We have had enough. This pseudo secular, minority appeaser goverment should be thrown out. UPA brands BJP as communal but if one looks at their daily activities congress has communalised the whole nation. Never we saw BJP biased on religion though some muslims think so ( because congress has made them to beleive that). They are communals under the guise of seculars like donkey in the guise of horse.Enough of scrap from this pseudos. We will and every one should vote for BJP to get rid of this ridiculous communal oppurtunistic alliance of Congress, lefts and DMK.Looks like they are hell bent on ruining India. They came together after results even though they fought against each other during elections. What an insult to democracy.But NDA has pre poll alliance which is ethical, not an unethical one like UPA.
RE:We should get RID of ridiculous UPA
by JGN on Feb 01, 2008 06:38 PM Permalink
Dear Ajeet, >>>>>>>>minority appeaser goverment .........this itself is a misunderstanding. The politicians are playing game in the name of minorities. No deserving (repeat deserving) muslims have benefited from the Govt schemes.
This has become a double edged sword. On the one hand, the muslims have not benefited and on the other the majority community is under the impression that the Govt is appeasing the muslims. See thru the politicians sinister plan and defeat them!
RE:We should get RID of ridiculous UPA
by Abdulla Pathan on Feb 01, 2008 06:57 PM Permalink
Agree with you JGN,
we will defeat them, but we will in government. Are they not corrupt?
Nothing is going to happen with current politician ( as they know only politics). Our corrupt system will not allow anybody to survive in system. They will use muscle, money, Police a(like sam dam danda and bhed) .
There are many countries on planet earth, each with different rulers and different sets of rules and regulations. Similarly there could be many parts to heaven and hell. The Gods or their accredited agents many be waiting at the gate of heaven/hell (some sort of no-man's land) to catch hold of the "souls" and push them into the heaven or hell. There are more than 2000 religions the world over. Then why one should believe that there is only one God or Supreme Creator???????????
RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by Amrit Patil on Feb 01, 2008 04:44 PM Permalink
India Today , friends today India is confuse country because of the word " SECULARISM" example is : there were three friends, Hindu, Christian & Muslim. They bought new Bike in contribution all of three were very Happy. Firstly Hindu said he want to perform a Puja ohter two friends said ok they will also perform a prayer & Namanj everybody agreed because they use to honour each others religion, Hindu person took a coconut & hit it on head light & he brok head light, Christ friend took candles & light it on seat so that seat totaly burnt, then Muslim took out speedo meter & he put a taperecorder over there & loud speaker in the place of Silencer. In resut that bike was not useful completely & friends started blaming each other that because of you this happened. India is in same state nobody want to understand nobody but at the same time they want their every right & because of this India become a useless bike.
RE:RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by Abdulla Pathan on Feb 01, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
I agree with my friend Amrit. We indian have been cheated by our politicians, system.
We have to fight against our politician and system to create india of dream of Gandhi, Subhah and Bhaghat singh.
RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 01, 2008 06:14 PM Permalink
This is a message by someone else on another discussion board:
is there a seperate muslim /christian/ hindu / buddhist air, water...? when we all breath the same air, drink same water...how can god can be different...? the problem every religion thinks that god stands and watches them from space...they also think that their religion's god is different from others... what a joke...!!?? the problem arises when we think that god is a male / female. its energy...it does not require any name...simple example when a mulim mosque in iraq is bombed or a hindu temple in kashmir is demolished or a buddhist vihar is ransacked...why no god stops it...? first of all if at all god exists...he does not require all these...we humans requires...he/she does not lose anything...even if each religions' gods are different, they dont seem to fight among themselves...it is we fools who fight...either in street or in net...!!! if god is an intelligent person, he would have stoped this in the beginning itself...since he/she does not have the wherewithal to stop this... why worship him...?
Can't you agree with this also?? Why we should fight in the name of religions and god/gods??
RE:RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 01, 2008 04:52 PM Permalink
Well said, Amrit Patil, but who will make the religious fanatic understand this? Some people still want to live in 7th century while some others want to live in 19th century!!!!!!!!!
RE:RE:RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by Abdulla Pathan on Feb 01, 2008 05:01 PM Permalink
Is civilization possible without religion thoughts, who brought all mankind together to form society.
Please read articles written by chinies/arebic scientist and then let me know about current human development.
It seems that we human being were well developed than current position and facts are getting produced day by day. Please read or watch discovery channel.
RE:RE:RE:RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 01, 2008 05:31 PM Permalink
Dear Abdulla, the mankind might have made much more progreses if there was no religion. Nearly two-thirds of all wars were fought in the name of religions and non-existent gods.
Pl download and read "The Necessity of Atheism" by Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at Project Gutenberg to know the real truth about religions and gods and how the Roman Catholic churches and other religious institutions scuttled scientific enquiry!!!!!!
Also serch for "War Crime Tribunal" to understand the atrocities committed by the participants in WW-II, especially Japan, a country predominently believing in Buddhist non-violence!
RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by Abdulla Pathan on Feb 01, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
U proved my point..
Religion never taught us to fight; however we human being make excuse for fight in name of god, allah, bhagvan because we want wealth, dominance and lot many things
RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 01, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>we human being make excuse for fight in name of god, allah, bhagvan because we want wealth, dominance and lot many things..........that has to be stopped. Only the faith in basic goodness of all human-beings can lead to that and not the outdated religious dogmas!!!!!!!!! It is easy to instigate people in the name of religion than anything else! Make no mistake about this.
RE:RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 01, 2008 04:20 PM Permalink
But the Muslims still proclaim thru loud speakers five times a day that "there is no god, but Allah" !!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:RE:RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by Abdulla Pathan on Feb 01, 2008 04:41 PM Permalink
Please watch movie ... The Message... most of actors from hollywood
RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by JGN on Feb 01, 2008 04:49 PM Permalink
Dear Abdulla, why you want fool yourself and others? Have you watched Jurasic Park or Star Wars? What is not possible in a movie with special effects????
Why even educated persons like you cannot think rationally? Pl visit the web of "Actual Freedom - the third alternative" This is an alternative to organized religions. It will atleast give you some insight into human behaviour and it cause (Its not a religious or atheist site).
RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by Abdulla Pathan on Feb 01, 2008 05:14 PM Permalink
Ha ha... Movies are not always special effects. they gives us learning as well.
my family consist of more than 50% doctors. Nobody is talking about religion here. We should speak or raise question when we know complete truth about it.
why run behind 3rd alternative, as each religious book had mentioned about human behaviour... har manush me bhagvan basate hai... danav bhi wahi paida hote hai... wahi prani ki kruth bhi karvata hai... lekin hame kya banana hai ye hume chochna hai..
RE:There can be any number of gods!!!!!!!!!!
by Abdulla Pathan on Feb 01, 2008 04:48 PM Permalink
dear friend meaning of Azaan or Adhan
God is The Greatest* I bear witness that there is no lord except God I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of God Make haste towards prayer Make haste towards welfare [success] God is greatest There is no lord except God
RE:Islam
by Sachidanand Shetty on Feb 01, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
Mr. Abdulla u r Pathan for last ten thousand year. In the year 1000 Arab invader Mohd Gori atatcked Afghanistan & by force converted u people to Islam, it's the known fact.
Islam was spread with help of sword, good example is india.
I agree with your point that Mohd Gori was invader and nobody says that he was follower of islam or spreading islam. He invaded lot places to get wealth and not for Islam.
Any king who invade, never believes or follow any religion ( as i have never read about any religion telling to kill human being)
RE:Islam
by JGN on Feb 01, 2008 03:48 PM Permalink
Ok, now pl tell me why I should believe in your Ideology. I don't believe in the dogmas of any religion.
