Its true we need to be optimistic. But jsut being optimistic will do no good unless we learn from our mistakes. this sentense "One may argue that these promises have not been redeemed. Yet the very promise is important most of all for the dispossessed. The poor have nothing but the law on their side. The rich do not need the law, they have money with which to corrupt, power and prestige. " what crap.nonsense.
All the hype of democracy falls flat when you see the politician goondaraj. Lalu,mulayam,mayawati,Badal,communist have got elected either on gun power, caste affoliations, religious sentiments and tried to keep countryman illiterate so that they vote again and again for small gesture even as low as a bottle of country liquor. on the otherhand these politicians have ammased huge wealth and some of them are highest taxpayer in the country. Congress has spread dynasty, BJP has spread communal hatred and what about a common man who cannot even file a simple theft case unless he bribes the policewala. Globally Democracy has meant empowerment of citizen , though among media it is a hype word. is there any concrete plan among politicians for universal education , food for all and crimeless society in a time bound manner not as a slogan but in reality. can the said lawer stop goons to particpate in elections and use RTI to get details of politicians ill gotten wealth. when can we walk, drive, venture outside without fear and get water, electricity regularly. this is time not to hype about democracy but how we can serve the poor and downtrodden and uplift them in next 10 years.
RE:RE:what is the use of such democracy where 300 million people are not able to manage two square meal
by James Bond on Aug 18, 2008 05:20 PM Permalink
Lalit,
What do you expect from BJP? If 50 hindus are burnt alive in Ghodra, should the party remain silent spectator. When a hindu questions the home minister or Laloo Prasad on their poor administrations and fraudsm, these goons in white immediately call a simple hindu RSS man.
What is happening in Jammu? Congress ally gives land and then revoke the decision. Jammu population is more but representation is less in assembly. If BJP demands equal representation it is painted communal.
May I ask why Laloo, Mulayam and Ram Vilas call SIMI not an anti-nationals because the members of this anti-national outfits hails from their states and SIMI activists explode bombs not in Patna, Not in UP but in Delhi, Bangalore, Ahmedabad etc, why. This means these politicians are equivalent to terrorists. Ram Vilas was praising Islam one day. Why? Because, by praising them he will get vote whereas he has no chance to get vote from us. Islam too has unequality to a large extent whether you believe or not. It is Islam which has not allowed any other religion to flourish in their majority dominated country or state take for example Yemen, Sudan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Afganistan and latest Kashmir valley.
RE:what is the use of such democracy where 300 million people are not able to manage two square meal
by lalit kedia on Aug 18, 2008 05:57 PM Permalink
Dear james Bond, your philosophy of blood for blood is not creating a healthy nation. I am no fan of lalu,ramvilas,mulayam or mayawati but if they are criminals, why not put them behind bars when the party you are trying to justify was in power for total of 6 yrs and one month. can you show me one political party refraining from one or other class of problem. as far as jammu is concerned the problem is too grave and if we allowit to take communal colour it shall burn the whole nation. This is the time when we expect good politicians to forget any other thing and save the nation. congress will not do because of dynasty, small time goonda politicians will not do because for them politics is a multi crore business. it is here we expect a strong and dedicated effort from BJP. let time prove this.
RE:what is the use of such democracy where 300 million people are not able to manage two square meal
by Girish Rao on Aug 18, 2008 05:27 PM Permalink
if some criminals have burnt train passengers, catch those and punish them, do not kill innocent civilians.
RE:what is the use of such democracy where 300 million people are not able to manage two square meal
by James Bond on Aug 19, 2008 10:13 AM Permalink
Girish,
Before you decide to say something political, correct your facts. You can guide me on Andhra, but definitely not on Gujarat. Godhra has history of riots and it is a hiding place for all anti-nationals. Why only at Godhra, the passengers were burnt alive and if riot wouldn't have happened, it would have made such burning a regular episode.
RE:what is the use of such democracy where 300 million people are not able to manage two square meal
by Shreeram Shah on Aug 18, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
Mr. You are really a bond...you well said man.
RE:what is the use of such democracy where 300 million people are not able to manage two square meal
by Shreeram Shah on Aug 18, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
Mr. You are really a bond...you well said man.
Democracy ? what sort of democracy we are leaving what is meaning of democracy .. here only democracy used for corruption u canot speak against corrupt leader u can start u r business without giving money to police /leader ..is this meaning of democracy.. after each win in the lection leader earning carors that is also openly govt employee not work without money and ..govt make rule that to take action we need to take permision :-) good democracy
Well if you really want to grow then practice what you market about you to the world.
You tell the world that India is a secular democracy and you treat minorities and lower castes as second class citizen. Either declare them as second class citizens or stop portraying yourself as a secular democracy.
Neither are you secular nor are you a democracy. You are not secular because your system favors reservation for a certain community, your police colludes with terrorists and you are not a democracy because you allow terrorists to hold high offices, even that of chief ministers..
RE:Democracy
by gaurav agrawal on Aug 18, 2008 05:25 PM Permalink
More is said about democracy but one thing we are missing is that the back bone of democracy is law and justice and the evidence of 12 lacs cases that are pending from 30 years are reflecting that how much we are concerned about law and order. Even every thing is disputed right from the border that India is maintaining from its neighbor countries from 1900.well said all is fair in love and war & that true for democracy “All is fair in Democracy”. In democracy how well a person having multiple criminal charges elected as MP in SIWAN and previous year Mumbai bomb blast master mind Abu Salem who eagerly trying to join politics because politics is a safe heaven for criminals. If for all these we are dreaming that one day India will become the super power then we are living in fool’s paradise. Now criminals and illiterate will decide the fate of the country. This is all because democracy. So don’t be crazy about Democracy.
Who told you Indian economy has flourished? Yes it is flourished but corruption has increased at all level.He will provide the food two times at their cost because his mismanagement and faulty policy the situation is bad come worst. The above data is government of India not any private agency. At least let them assure that hereafter inflation will not increase I will control fully he should assure the people. I do not know whether upcoming lok sabha election he will loose the their deposit also in SIVAGANGA [Tamil Naddu] constituency. Let us we all of them pray and at any cost he should not win the election. This is the lesson for all the politicians those who are cheating with us. When they want vote they will talk something different but once they elected their colour has been changed, We have to teach the lesson for such activities. Brokers has been increased substantially like amar singh & shukla with a slogan ‘Pay the Money get the things” & “incredible India”. Population has increased last 5-10 years but government have no effort to reduce such thing. We have 2 ? times population compare to US but we have a several other population due to mismanagement of our economy. Ministry of Finance has 4-5 secretaries and each secretary handling one department and they have well knowledge about their department out to control money circulation, expenditure, custom & central excise etc. but all of they miserably failed all aspects. Even though minister himself w
RE:Fact is different ? Will you accept the truth
by kala on Aug 18, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
In continuation to above please see the remaing message Even though minister himself well economist and educated from Harvard but it is very sad for indian huge population he is totally fail all aspects and now a days all the service class people are total happy with him. He is purely ‘ Mukesh Ambani’ man and he can’t deny. He is a minister for country not for ambani. The way he talking it shows his dearness with ambani. First he told let us wait some time once monsoon arrive automatically price will come down and subsequently inflation will under control. The same story was repeated by Dr. Montek singh Aluvalia but inflation has increasing every week end not decreasing. Ok let them take responsibility those who are earning 19/- to 20/- per day.
RE:Fact is different ? Will you accept the truth
by kala on Aug 18, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
this is our country staus and these UPA politicias are expecting that people should vote in the upcoming general election. It is better we will reply suitably and finish the chapter of congress party for ever pealse keep in mind all the rediff users and accessors
What we have in our country, you call it democracy? Where most of the population are still illiterate, not having the power to judge the vote seeking candidates, and you say they vote with their own will? The ordinary people are always carried away by the shrewd politicians who only give false promises. Consttitution has helped?? This so-called referral which allows anybody and everybody to form parties of their own, winning in one's ticket and then moving on to join others just because it is not suiting his/her ulterior motives, you call it great......pl. think twice before publishing such articles, rather you should be vocal about the numerous loop-holes in the so called constitution which helps politicians to be more corrupt and exploit innocent people of this country.....God save us
What IT superpower are you talking about? It is the biggest rubbish being dished out to gullible people and youth of nation. The bottomline is the entire indian IT industry is the backoffice(coolie) of the world doing things at a third or forth of the cost of what westerners dont want to do.
Indian IT is overhyped and has created an army of indifferent people who are useless to the society and country as a whole! The only reason they are paid is because they can clean the world's toilet in the most sincere way as no one else willingly wants to do it.
Maybe its true NRN/Azim should be given some credit for being able to empower people and giving them job but on a larger scale they are also responsible for pushing todays talented youth into a menial job thus wasting the precious man-power and not utilizing it constructively.
RE:What IT superpower?
by Paul Rufus on Aug 18, 2008 04:41 PM Permalink
Dear Friend, have u ever travelled abroad have u ever seen local people giving any respect to Indians. It is true that we are considered as parasites or beggers. But this IT has changed all that suddenly world has taken notice and suddenly we are no more a country of Snake Charmers or sadhus. Its a huge thing mate. Last 10 yrs we have seen devolopement which never happened before that Paul Rufus
RE:What IT superpower?
by PAL on Aug 18, 2008 04:31 PM Permalink
You do not know the reality and how something new has to be started. that is all i would like to comment.
Don't live under wrong notions. If India democracy has flourished, it is because the majority community in this country which has allowed others to prosper and grow. Immediately after freedom, it may have Cognress(earlier known as hindu party) strategy to allow minimum representation of muslim community but this was not because of hindus who were almost 90% that time.
If democracy has succeded in rest of the country, it has failed in Kashmir valley. Why? Because, muslims are in majority in valley. Another proof, why Jammu has not forced muslims living in city because it is hindu dominated city. There is not even one country which can say proudly that they are a muslim doimnated country and have equal rights for other communities too. Even the foolest of the fool will not equate Sudan, Yemen, Indonesia, Malaysia, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afganistan with India. I have not seen any muslim country with 80% population allowing other religion to grow. Even christians cannot breath in Pakistan forget about Hindus. If few left old lerchins are still allowed to live in Kashmir valley it is because it helps valley sepratists to show their face clean. India annot win golds like China atleast it can act strong like China.
RE:'It is under the Constitutional dispensation that India's much acclaimed democracy has flourished'
by raju on Aug 18, 2008 05:12 PM Permalink
Well said man, well said.... unfortunatly every thing you said is true, God knows what will happen in another 25-40 years when the present majority comunity may not be majority comunity. & the so called seculaaaaaar parties are hastening the inevitable with minority apeasemnt!!!
