Guys in my view we need something like Chinese kind of communism at least looking at the current political scenario.Capitalism is working out fine in the developed countries because of their less population.Its said that in such scenarios u leave the country to a free market control,even with vested interests and everything will take care of it self.Even the limited labour factor will ensure that unskilled workers are paid well.The Govt. may need to interfere less until and unless any issue of national importance arises.But in India we are still not ready for a full free market economy.And seeing the kind of politicians our democracy is churning out,democracy itself needs to be kicked out for sometime and a politburo be formed with more transparency and accountability who can best balance the the concepts of socialism and capitalism and march on till we reach a stage where we can capitulate to a complete free market economy.---Of course forget the constitution :)
RE:Suggestion
by aman on Aug 14, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
I agree 100%, a strong leader should sit at the top, atleast for some period of time and make these politicians and govt employees to either to do their work or kick them out.
Chinese style wont work in india now cos we have got used to democratic freedoms and adopting it will backfire and people who will come to power will resort to large scale looting safe in the knowledge that they cannot be voted out of power.
RE:Suggestion
by Swashbuckler on Aug 14, 2008 07:50 PM Permalink
It may Work.Its said that during Indir Gandhi's 1975 Emergeny although she misused lot of her powers,India's Growth improved significantly during that period and sarkari babus became more efficient than ever before :)
RE:Suggestion
by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
Mr Swashbuckler you are wrong I think we need a bi party system as in U.S and U.Kwhere a party gets full time to work for 4 years without thinking of coalation partners.What syatem china has is about suppressing people and supressing media.Which is not the way we should work.Yes there are loopholes in democrecy which can be ammended but a system like china is not workable at all.
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by Swashbuckler on Aug 14, 2008 07:53 PM Permalink
We may have biparty systems but what about bipartisan politics.Look How in US and UK the parties united in issues of National Security and Ireland respectively? Look how shamelessly L K Advani opposed the nuclear deal in the motion of Confidence.
Two persons in recent times impacted indian history - Dr Manmohan Singh and President APJ Abdul Kalam. RISE OF BOTH REFLECTS THE SUCCESS STORY OF INDIAN DEMOCRACY, POLITY AND ETHOS. Both represent minority and lower middle class of our stratified society. THIS FAMILY BACKGROUND HAS CONFERRED On THEM HUMILITY AND COMPASSION FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN PEOPLE. The real success story of India does not lie in how many preppy malls we have but the real strength of India lies with the fates of millions whO over the years learnt how to live with malnutrition, impoverishment and inadequate resources. When we stop our cars in traffic signal how many hapless children we encounter who sell books, but can not afford to go to school to learn about the things they are selling. Isn't a vulgar exhibition of wealth when some rich people spent millions over buying yachts or pompous marriages. Philanthropy is an essential ingredient of richness, wealthy people with philanthropic mindset can create wealth for the society and earn pepetuity. Spirituality if combined with wealth creation can create wonders in India. I sincerely hope both these revered towering personalities will keep trying to pitch Indian riches to contribute and share their wealth with fellow countrymen. They should come forward to strecth hands to Govt efforts to reach out millions and reciprocally Govt should see that the funds of philanthropic organizations are spent honestly. Politics is often seen with cynicism - must change. JAI H
When Failures are deducted from Achievements, what is left? ' ' or '-' or '0'? Whatever it be! All the success and failures affects only rich people. Let us keep working hard to maintain our family and India moving. Jai Hind.
theres corruption and looting of our natural resources by our political businessmen, even they have started exporting our sands exploiting our ecosystem and taken to the point of no return. Easy money for them.
what kind of improvement are we talking. i couldnt see any, the roads, the power and water supply problems.
Just sporting chinese and western products is the only change i could see.
RE:There is No comparison between China communist and Indian communist.
by prasad gutta on Aug 14, 2008 06:51 PM Permalink
All the difference is with the liberty that we have to talk of development and welfare. But we don't do any thing indiviually. We expect every thing from the so called Government elected and run by people who invest to win and loot public later.
Prakash Karat and Mayavati are the two greatest leaders India has produced in recent times. Mayavati will be India's future PM and the PM in waiting. Mayavati and Prakash Karat along with AB Bardhan will transform India to a beautiful land like CHINA. India will sign many deals with CHINA for the development of India. BSP will get 100 seats in North India, Left will get 75 seats and UNPA is aiming for another 100 seats. Advani & Modi is fighting inside BJP, so some of its sections of people will support Maya and Left if it misses the majority. India need leaders like PRAKASH, YECHURI, BARDHAN & MAYA and not like MMS & KALAM
RE:Prakash Karat and Mayavati are the two greatest leaders India has produced in recent times. Mayavati will be India's future PM and the PM in waiting
by sonia chand on Aug 14, 2008 06:47 PM Permalink
i don't understand how do u call these two as future of india. while one is always trying pull the frog back in well and the other is busy installing her own sculpture on all intersection. can we think of some young faces who can really bring somes reforms.
RE:Prakash Karat and Mayavati are the two greatest leaders India has produced in recent times. Mayavati will be India's future PM and the PM in waiting
by free market on Aug 14, 2008 06:33 PM Permalink
Prakash Karat has very low IQ. Proof: He is a Communist. Only people with sub-20 IQ become Communists.
RE:Prakash Karat and Mayavati are the two greatest leaders India has produced in recent times. Mayavati will be India's future PM and the PM in waiting
by suresh menon on Aug 14, 2008 06:50 PM Permalink
we just have to see the development made by Kerala in Industrial sector to understand how ineffective communists have been. They simply dont know to rule but they surely know to misrule. Communist means a bunch of buffoons
RE:Prakash Karat and Mayavati are the two greatest leaders India has produced in recent times. Mayavati will be India's future PM and the PM in waiting
by sunal mahajan on Aug 14, 2008 11:23 PM Permalink
when mayawati will become PM of India...then reservation will rise to 90% & great & intelligent people like APJ will never be produced & india will become poorest country in world & may be again slave
RE:Prakash Karat and Mayavati are the two greatest leaders India has produced in recent times. Mayavati will be India's future PM and the PM in waiting
by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
are u someone from China supporting communalism
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by modernindian on Aug 14, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
See the mentality of left people. While being in India, they will support China which is a great threat to India. China claim more than half of Our North east territory belongs to them and these left anti nationalists are supporting China.What a pity...
RE:Prakash Karat and Mayavati are the two greatest leaders India has produced in recent times. Mayavati will be India's future PM and the PM in waiting
by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 06:34 PM Permalink
Both are a big black spot on Indian politics both are not fit for the top job
RE:Prakash Karat and Mayavati are the two greatest leaders India has produced in recent times. Mayavati will be India's future PM and the PM in waiting
by John on Aug 14, 2008 06:33 PM Permalink
tu bhi nomination dalde
RE:With due respect
by ram on Aug 14, 2008 06:22 PM Permalink
1. he has been one of the founding fathers of our space programme (SLV- satellite launch vehicle). today India is one of the select few (8 or 9) countries that have indigenously develpoed and launched satellites. We watch T.V get weather reports etc. all due to satellites.
2. he has done critical work in building our defence through the missiles programme.
3, Has been the National security adviser
4. Above all, served as President of the Nation.
5. continues to tour the nation and understands the problems faced by the people. Most politicians dont even tour their own constituency even during timkes of crisis.
RE:With due respect
by ram on Aug 14, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
another important thing abt Dr Kalam is that, he was the first President to return a Bill to Parliament for reconsideration.
Even now he is going as guest lecturer to many universities across the country so that many students irrepective of their region, get benifitted by his knowledge and get inspired by hi. He believes that youth power alone can make our nation stronger.
RE:With due respect
by soorma on Aug 14, 2008 06:51 PM Permalink
He was not first.. Even Zail singh refused to sign Indian Post Office (Amendment) Bill in 1987....
RE:With due respect
by soorma on Aug 14, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
1. Vikram sarabhai was the founding father of SLV programe and it was his vision.. 2. Yes, he has managed the missile programme with success.... I appreciate him for that... 3. NSA job is very challenging in india.. But i don't remember kalam being a success.. 4. President is dummy in india.. Don't bothere... 5. Don't compare with petty politicians... Even yourself will be better than them....
RE:With due respect
by varun on Aug 14, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
Vikram sarabhai was the foudning father but one can not take away the credit from Dr kalam is succefull launch of satelites as he was the project incharge! the initial attmeot failed but they found sucess next time!
RE:With due respect
by soorma on Aug 14, 2008 06:46 PM Permalink
sure... i agree. But Project incharge cann't run away with all credit and further india has many more successful project incharges...
RE:With due respect
by sunal mahajan on Aug 14, 2008 11:30 PM Permalink
why all of us have gorget that his main achievment was development of agni missile-thats why he is called missile man of india
RE:With due respect
by sonia chand on Aug 14, 2008 06:52 PM Permalink
its no point fighting on this be sport like mr kalam and educate as many in the most deprived parts of the nation. then u shall by yourself understand what it takes to a KALAM.
RE:With due respect
by kareem on Aug 14, 2008 07:05 PM Permalink
what is ur real problem??i believe something major..one more thing who is the respectable person in india?? is that DHONI??
I feel it is better for every one to discuss about the problems Dr Kalam has highlighted and their relavance in building great India. The discussion should revolve around the way and means of achiving these.
