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for all people maligning Dr Kalam.
by adfasd asdasd on Aug 14, 2008 03:52 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Answer these questions...

1) Name another politician/non-politician with Dr. Kalam's Integrity and patriotism
2) If you think he did not do enough because he was a rubber-stamp president. Tell me will you vote for him as a PM??
3) If you vote for any other party/person, do you really think he/she has done more or is more dedicated towards India as a nation?
4) What would you have had done differently if you were a President?


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RE:for all people maligning Dr Kalam.
by Ahmad on Aug 14, 2008 05:11 PM  Permalink
Tumhare baap nay be misile banaya thaa

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RE:for all people maligning Dr Kalam.
by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 03:57 PM  Permalink
you are 100% right I totally agree with u

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RE:for all people maligning Dr Kalam.
by elango balakrishnan on Aug 14, 2008 03:58 PM  Permalink
1) Could not think a different person than Kalam
2) Yes. I will. He should be good as PM
3) No
4) I would have taken advice from Kalam often

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RE:for all people maligning Dr Kalam.
by Ally on Aug 14, 2008 04:07 PM  Permalink
Excelent Bala Krishna

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RE:RE:for all people maligning Dr Kalam.
by Ahmad on Aug 14, 2008 04:42 PM  Permalink
you are saying such things just because he is a muslim even when he made motherland strong .... sick people

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RE:for all people maligning Dr Kalam.
by Swashbuckler on Aug 14, 2008 03:57 PM  Permalink
Manmohan singh is better than him in all aspects knowledge of economics/honesty/modesty.
Unfortunately he's often stymied by the party's policies.

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I Repeat
by Swashbuckler on Aug 14, 2008 03:45 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Mallu's like fishermen a lot.I may be wrong about the 'processes' and protocols but this guy never took a stand.he preferred to remain a non-committal silent ass when the whole nation was screaming at congress' pseduo secular policies.


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RE:I Repeat
by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 03:48 PM  Permalink
what he did was he gave India and Indians a vision.Tell me one president who came this far?Instead of critizing him we should prase him for what he did not critize him for what he did not do

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RE:I Repeat
by Swashbuckler on Aug 14, 2008 03:52 PM  Permalink
India is full of thousands of intellectuals.West bengal gives us the best intellectual.TOI is full of visionaries.We need a strong leader today who can discipline india
first before thinking of progress.

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RE:I Repeat
by raj shrivastav on Aug 14, 2008 04:26 PM  Permalink
How abt Rahul Gandhi ?

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by adfasd asdasd on Aug 14, 2008 03:47 PM  Permalink
Name another person you think has done something great for India and your mask and your lies will be blown away....

answer this question if you have the guts....

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by adfasd asdasd on Aug 14, 2008 03:53 PM  Permalink
you did not answer my question...my friend...

suppose you want to remain behind a cloak and attack from the back like a coward...maybe its a inspiration you have got from your elders

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by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 03:54 PM  Permalink
I think you should shut up and let others do some constructive work sparrow

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by Sparrow on Aug 14, 2008 03:56 PM  Permalink
thanks for your suggestion. you can do some constructive work. i'm just doing what you are doing: criticising others!

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by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 04:00 PM  Permalink
You are just passing on time you dont know any thing about India or politics

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by Sparrow on Aug 14, 2008 04:02 PM  Permalink
great insight. you must be a professor in politics

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by Sparrow on Aug 14, 2008 04:01 PM  Permalink
to "adfasd asdas"

people who teach morals, should follow it first. abusing my family, only shows your hypocrisy.

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Don't be patient till 2020! (Part-1)
by Sahayaathrikan on Aug 14, 2008 03:44 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Kalamji, as a scientist, is among the greatest men lived in India. The nation would not have been so strong in defence without him. His whole life was dedicated for the nation. But his visions of developed India 2020 (as Ex-President or a statesman) needs much elaboration

What is mean by a developed country?
To become a country like United States having 5% of world’s population spending 35% of worlds oil and energy for their luxuries? (In spite of all, are the American secured and happier than rest of the world?) Or a country of mere GDP growth and share Index? Or a country where all people living in cities and apartments with Cars and air conditioners? In that case, we are not going to be a developed country in 2020. Never!

Or should we go for a simpler version of development?
If development is having clean air to breath, clean food and water for healthy living without luxury hospitals, feeling security of future and happiness and people using their mind for creative/artistic/sports/literature activities, then what we lack today in India? We have enough food, raw materials and technologies today. Why should we wait up to 2020?

What we need is first is to learn to live with Indian realities. We have fully ignored Gandhiji and his principles of life (congress first). Today, we are selling our nation to ruthless Corporate-giants, who will crush and trap every Indian breathless in their debt-locks and exile all poor-for-no-fault-of-theirs from our society. Toda

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RE:Don't be patient till 2020! (Part-1)
by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 03:52 PM  Permalink
I agree with certain things but not all.Do all of us Indian are above poverty line do all of us are educated do all of us enjoy the luxury of goo health care.Till the time this happens we are far below where we should be.

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RE:Don't be patient till 2020! (Part-1)
by Sahayaathrikan on Aug 14, 2008 03:45 PM  Permalink
PART-2 continues..
Today we are pledging our sovereignty for political interests of US in the shadow of energy shortage.

Dear friends. Let us not be patient and lose ourselves in the myopia of 2020 dreams! Learn to live as simple as possible and lead a peaceful life TODAY. And when we are strong enough to help others, do so. Let rich youth marry poor girls. Never get lost in communal hatred. Muslims and Christians were Hindus once. Have sympathy to them and count them among us. They were converted either by force or willingly to escape from discriminations in our old society. Try to love them. Let every one of us make India!


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RE:RE:Don't be patient till 2020! (Part-1)
by Binu Devassia on Aug 14, 2008 04:28 PM  Permalink
Working towards 2020 dream does not mean to lose our values of life. If so, we will alos be not better to Americans. Sustaining our culture and values in the amidst of develpments is the real attainment. Otherwise we will simply be perished as a converted American or European.

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RE:Don't be patient till 2020! (Part-1)
by Binu Devassia on Aug 14, 2008 04:22 PM  Permalink
Development does not mean to do what exactly others do. If you look towards USA alone for a concept of developed nation you will be wrong. We have our own identity and culture, so being growing into developed nation status does not mean us to behave like Americans. We are Indians. If USA is not safer, it is not because of development, rather due to its behaviour towards others. The first thing we need to understand is in a social set up growing up is taking up responsibilities. Even let's consider of simpler version, but it does not mean to satisfy with what we have today. Development means better living conditions for the common man (i.e., even economically lowest section should enjoy better living condition). Equal development does not mean that all the individuals live in a same condition. Rather the weakest one should have the facility to live an improved life. The left or marxian idea of equality is not possible in a democratic world. Ofcourse, we need to live with Indian reality or wherever we do live. But remember, these realities can be developed into better realities where we can have a better living situation. If a nation want to develop, it has to follow the inclusive development policy, i.e., starting from Towns/Cities to remote villages and from Capitals to remote constituencies. This is what Gandhiji taught us and what our great visionary Kalamji says.

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RE:Don't be patient till 2020! (Part-1)
by Sahayaathrikan on Aug 14, 2008 04:39 PM  Permalink
Fire is beutiful to see. But we feel the heat when we touch. Luxuries and sophistications look good. But it carries mandatory compliments. When we bring luxury to our life, it drive us behind greed and lust. It perishes and takes away happiness, values and harm rest of the prople's life and environment. Poverty is very bad yet harmless. Luxury is worst and harms everything wround us! Wise should choose to live simple life with essentials.

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Appraisal
by Sanjay Jain on Aug 14, 2008 03:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

He has been or rather he is a great man and has contributed a lot for India.

However could rediff ask Mr. Kalam to elaborate about his achievement as the President of this Country.


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RE:Appraisal
by Mahesh on Aug 14, 2008 03:47 PM  Permalink
eh dumbo,
u will do well to be informed that there is very little a person can do as the president of india. it is a ceremonial post to be showcased for events like republic day, independence day etc...it's the politicians who have to DO things...Kalam's greatness lies in the fact that he made us all aware that India has a president and continues to do so inspite of someone else holding the post...thats his achievement.

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RE:Appraisal
by Sanjay Jain on Aug 14, 2008 03:56 PM  Permalink
What is the cost of the showcase? Make T N Sheshan as President, and he will let all of us know what the power the President of India has and how to make the so called Lallu and Panju to work toward the upliftment of a common public.

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RE:Appraisal
by bsk bsk on Aug 14, 2008 04:55 PM  Permalink
I totally agree with you. TN Sheshan is the suitable person to become a president and to show others that what president can do. Before him, most of us dont know about the election commission and the power of Chief election commissioner

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by Sparrow on Aug 14, 2008 03:27 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

another non-performing god, another instance of idol worship

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by Swashbuckler on Aug 14, 2008 03:29 PM  Permalink
Ha Ha Ha.Kalam is a spineless guy.A great technician but should keep himself away from politics.

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by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 03:38 PM  Permalink
What are u an Indian laughing on such a big personality?.Even if you do 10% of what Mr KAlam has done it will make all of us proud

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by harish r on Aug 14, 2008 03:38 PM  Permalink
dont start just making comments...we need to understand and appreciate the great contribution he has done for out defence and space programmes.....it is easy to talk ...but hard to perform

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err...did rediff get it wrong...
by umesh scaria k on Aug 14, 2008 03:22 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I thought Prathibha Patil was the president of India...or is she? Wasn't rediff supposed to run her thoughts on India at the eve of ID. Does she have anything to say at all?

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RE:err...did rediff get it wrong...
by Shobhit Shrivastav on Aug 14, 2008 03:34 PM  Permalink
Didn't you noticed the knowledge of our previous President in various sectors, this was not a speech prepared for him, but this shows his involvement with India and its people.
I don't want ot comments about our cureent President, b'coz I respect the position and the dignity it holds.

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Only sensible guy around..
by Chandu on Aug 14, 2008 03:20 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Kalam, probably is the only sensible guy around who has a vision. The congerss is upset with him because he doesn't play political cards.The Hindu fanatics hate him because of his religious background. The muslims dislike him because he doesn't play any communal card. He is a great visionary who dreams about India unlike the politicians and beurocrats in India who only have a vision to fill their pockets. His dreams and ideas are never going to fulfil in India as we don't have any political system that supports him. Nevertheless, hats off Mr.Ex-president, for sparing a thought on how to resolve our real issues. Unfortunately your breed are very rare.Sorry, we are Indians and we know only how to pull others' leg..

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Sparrow on Aug 14, 2008 03:31 PM  Permalink
ppl with vision dont't go around giving interviews. they do something else

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Gooner on Aug 14, 2008 03:34 PM  Permalink
so what have you done Sparrow other barking in these forums

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Sparrow on Aug 14, 2008 03:36 PM  Permalink
i at least abstained from giving interviews. by the way, if you are asking me that you must have done something, i guess. can we talk about that

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RE:RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Gooner on Aug 14, 2008 03:39 PM  Permalink
even if you are ready to give interview, I'm pretty sure even the news mongers like hindi news channels won't bother to look @ you forget the interview part

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Sparrow on Aug 14, 2008 03:42 PM  Permalink
how can you criticise me and also ask me not to criticise others! isn't that hypocritical!

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Gooner on Aug 14, 2008 03:38 PM  Permalink
certainly I'm not abusing someone who has achieved something in his life. what have you done in your life to abuse person like APJ.


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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Sparrow on Aug 14, 2008 03:41 PM  Permalink
you must understand the dif between abusing and criticizing... or else indulge in idol worship.

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by aa on Aug 14, 2008 03:39 PM  Permalink
hi

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Vijay K on Aug 14, 2008 04:11 PM  Permalink
can every body pl go back to their respective work and ofcourse genuinly work...i guess this is what is required. rest all the discussion is crap and bull shit.

rgds

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by Rajiv R on Aug 14, 2008 04:12 PM  Permalink
You are wrong. please don't drag religion here. Congress is always trying to support minority people. It is just a secular party for name sake. Why is congress is mum on Amarnath issue??. The political parties of kashmir is wagging tails because of congress. I am sorry to say BECAUSE OF NEHRU all these things are happening.

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by MOHAMMAD YUNUS on Aug 14, 2008 04:15 PM  Permalink
KALAM might be having reason but he cant rum the country.

In todays higly cruel world we need an honest but highly diplomatic leader.....Kalam is innocent.

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RE:Only sensible guy around..
by kamaljeet madan on Aug 14, 2008 03:41 PM  Permalink
You are apsuletely right.I 100% agree with you.We need someone lile hime at the top we dont know when this will happen and fortunes of India will change

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