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The worst is yet to come in Kashmir-Beware
by Rajan Sodankur on Aug 07, 2008 09:25 AM  Permalink 

Folks, pre prepared for the worst which is yet to come.When the Kashmir blockade by the people of Jammu continues, even the police, military, paramilitary, judiciary will start deserting governance and national security because these forces at ground level are the pillars. These ground level staff will start feeling the pinch of short supplies of essential commodities soon which will lead to Law and Order problem and the consequence will be worse than during war time or natual calamities(during which at least the army and paramilitary has the support of local societies).There will be looting and shooting, gangrapes and murders, settlement of personal enemities and scores under the cover of agitating mobs. In short it is going to be mass suicide for the Kashmiris and political suicide for the Congressis.

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by sunil kumar khah on Aug 07, 2008 09:21 AM  Permalink 

SOME DISCRIMATTING FACTS ABOUT JAMMU AND KASHMIR AS PER THE DETAILS AVAILABLE FROM JAMMU AND KASHMIR GOVT. WEB SITES                               
JAMMU DIVISION                   &nb sp;          
DISTT      MLA VOTERS vot/mla AREA area/MLA
POONCH      3 257969 85990 1674       558
RAJOURI      4 374120 93530 2630       658
JAMMU      13 1151263 88559 3097       238
KATHUA      5 393427 78685 2651       530
UDHMPUR      6 494653 82442 4550       758
DODA      6 434684 72447 11691 1949
                   &nb sp;          
TOTAL      37 3106116 83949 26293 711
                   &nbs p;          
LEH AND KARGIL                     ;          
KARGIL      2 87438 43719 14036       7018
LEH      2 86715 43358 96701       48351
                   &n bsp;          
TOTAL      4 174153 43538 110737 27684
                   &n bsp;          
KASHMIR PROVINCE                   &nb sp;          
         &nbs p;                    
SRINAGAR 10 724103      72410      2228      22 3
BARAMULLA 10 626573      62657      4588      45 9
ANANTNAG 10 586943      58694      3934      39 3
BADGAM       5 315421      63084      1371      27 4
PULWAMA       6 336045      56008      1398      23 3
KUPWARA       5 295756      59151      2379      47 6

TOTAL       46 2884841      62714      15898       346

NOTE: THE NUMBER OF VOTERS INCLUDE THE MORE THAN 4 LAKH KASHMIRI MIGRANTS WHO WERE FORCED TO LEAVE KASHMIR                   &nbs p;          
think about it and

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About Supreme court's remarks about India
by Rajan Sodankur on Aug 07, 2008 09:18 AM  Permalink 

I fully agree with the sentiments of the Hon.Supreme court; however am afraid that some extreme religious elements may take the supreme court for "belittling the immense of power of God who by definition and as per popular belief is Omni present, omniscient and omnipotent"! Does this imply that Supreme court is powerless to enforce the rule of Law in the case of erring governments and MPs, What sort of legal system we have got which only moans and does not protect the Indian public?

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About banning SIMI
by Rajan Sodankur on Aug 07, 2008 09:12 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Going by Lallu's and Amar Singh's comparative statements about RSS and SIMI either the government or we the people of India should do the following immediately:Ban Communist Party Marxist of India for Singur related murders and forcontinuously encouraging Naxalite movement surreptiously; ban Congress Party for post Indira Gandhi assassination genocide of Sikhs;ban Congress for coloborating and colluding with anti-national PDP whose members are on pay roll of Pakistan; they are neither true to their mother country, India nor Islam. The silence of international human rights organizations on the issue of displaced Kashmiri Hindu refugees expose the hollow claims of these organizations to promote human rights; actually these are protecting and promoting the RIGHTS OF ANTI-NATIONAL ELEMENTS, TERRORISTS AND GOONS IN ALL COUNTRIES WHICH DO NOT TOE THE WESTERN COUNTRIES LINE. Ban RJD party for accommodating and supporting MPs in its fold who have been jailed on criminal offences and continue to run their empire with mobiles fro inside the prison; ban Muslim League which is communal. The cat is now out of the bag-Lallu and Amar are certifying SIMI as innocent which exposes how these two politicians were harboring and encouraging SIMI in their respective states(UP and Bihar) for causing trouble in other neighboring states except in Bihar and UP. Ban Samajwadi Party party too for this.Ban DMK and PMK for harboring and enouraging LTTE and its allies in TN.

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RE:About banning SIMI
by C G on Aug 07, 2008 09:17 AM  Permalink
Thanks Rajan for openinging people eyes. SC rightly said. Now god cant save this country as this is runned by Mullas... for destroying this

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Wake up India
by Wakeup India on Aug 07, 2008 09:06 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Guys, please wake up for God sake. Open your eyes and see what is happening in your India. Supreme court said even God can not save this country from politicians. If not now, when will you uproar?

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RE:Wake up India
by Raj ahuwalia on Aug 07, 2008 09:22 AM  Permalink
Read times of India today see what Farooq abullah has set in all india meeting of parties. Please support the movemnt in jammu . Dont sleep , if this movement dies as Congress is trying to do, whole India and Hindus will weep in Future and then they will recognise the Importance of movement. You have earned lot of money atleast spent ome time for your people and Mother land

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This is peoples movement
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 07, 2008 09:05 AM  Permalink 

Every section of society cutting across party lines, profession, religion , age have joined in this uprising.

Congress MPs, MLAs, others have supported it.

A section of media is propagating jehadi propaganda that its communal.

When land order was revoked, was it communal?

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Peoples Movement
by Lucky on Aug 07, 2008 08:10 AM  Permalink 

The manner, in which the entire Jammu populace has come to the streets and held the fort against state administration, makes it very clear that it is a peoples movement.



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What Jammu wants? An end to Kashmiri imperialism
by Lucky on Aug 07, 2008 08:09 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

People of Jammu are not against Kashmiris or Muslims or Kashmiriyat, but against the politics of imperialism practiced by Muftis, Abdullahs and the ilk. The land transfer just gave an opportunity to them to come out and express the pent up anger..

DOES JAMMU want only the land transferred to the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board (SASB) and if this happens, will the matter settle down? Apparantly, this does not seem to be the case.
The Amarnath land transfer is just a symptom of the malaise afflicting the bodypolitic of the state, with all the major stakeholders failing to satisfy the aspirations of Dogras, Kashmiris and Ladakhis, not to speak of the other ethnic and linguistic groups like Gujjars and Paharis.
Right now, what Jammu wants is end to the Kashmiri imperialism, which has been perfected and practiced by the Kashmiri leadership foisted upon the state by union of India.
People of Jammu want an end to the domination of Kashmiris in every sphere of their life. Be it politics, economy, society and culture, the writ of the Kashmir runs in the state and the centre.
The land transfer just gave an opportunity to the people of Jammu to come out and express the pent up anger. However, the people of Jammu are not communal and majority of the people value secularism to the utmost level.

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RE:What Jammu wants? An end to Kashmiri imperialism
by Kashmiri democrat on Aug 07, 2008 08:44 AM  Permalink
Myself a Kashimir muslim by birth ,born and brought up in Jammu.I must say that all political parties..Cong , NC and PDP are trying to communalise the issue.They are creating trouble in the Valley to appease ppl who are pro pakistani.On the other hand they are accusing Samiti as communal.The movement in Jammu is nothing to do with Amamrnath.We the ppl of Jammu are fed up with the Srinagar based politicains.We want a seperate state of Jammu.this is the genral public feeling in Jammu and this Amarnath row has given us an opportunity to raise our voice and fight for our right of self deter mintaion.Jai Jammu . Jai Hindu.Pakistan Murdabad

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RE:What Jammu wants? An end to Kashmiri imperialism
by Proud Hindustani on Aug 07, 2008 08:33 AM  Permalink
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83% Egypt -- Muslim 90% Gaza
- Muslim 98.7% Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98% Iraq -- Muslim 97% Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7% Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99% Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90% Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' --
the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be
peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100% Somalia -- Muslim
100% Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case.

Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
'Before I was nine I had learned the basi canon of Arab life.

It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.
-- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity.. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large.
Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book:
"Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.". (??)



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What Jammu wants? An end to Kashmiri imperialism
by Lucky on Aug 07, 2008 08:09 AM  Permalink 

People of Jammu are not against the Kashmiris or Muslims or Kashmiriyat, but they are dead against the politics of imperialism practiced by Muftis, Abdullahs and the ilk.

Barring few incidences that are regrettable, no violence has been perpetrated against our Muslim brothers in Jammu and Kashmir as well.

If Kashmiris can protest against the Indian yoke, the Jammu people have every right to do so. Similarly, the people of Jammu have every right to fight against the yoke put on them by few people and politicians across the Jawahar tunnel.

Jammu, mind you is not against Muslims and Kashmiris, it is against the ideology that upholds the supremacy of everything that is from Kashmir valley.

It is pertinent to mention that during the 14 years of emergency, it is Jammu and its people that have provided the buffer against separatist and anti-India ideology and consequent violence engulfing the state.

Not to be forgotten is the manner, in which Jammuites shared space with the Kashmiri Pandit brothers, who were forced to migrate from Kashmir Valley. Another question, which rises here is why were they forced to leave their land, home and hearths.

Instead of painting the agitation at Jammu as communal and led by Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), some soul searching is needed to be done by the leaders of mainstream political parties in Kashmir, Jammu and India.

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