RE:US interference is the cause of delay
by ravi sharma on Aug 06, 2008 06:38 PM Permalink
There is no reason to beleive Vajpayee/BJP would have behaved in a different manner. Compared to what happened/ happens in politics delaying the Monsoon session is an ignorable point.
RE:US interference is the cause of delay
by Ram Sharma on Aug 06, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
dear ravi. Just bcz u think that bjp would not hv behaved in a different manner, hence there is nothing wrong being dictated by US. This is negative way of defending UPA. It is just like saying "There is nothing wrong in Congressmen being corrupt, bcz BJP men also would hv done the same if in power." But I don't think u support Left either, whose MPs were not at all involved in MP bribing scandal.
RE:US interference is the cause of delay
by Ganesh on Aug 06, 2008 06:59 PM Permalink
They lost the trust vote one one vote , that too was the game plan of the Congress who asked an elected CM ( who was not eligible to vote). If you frankly ask me , Congress has ruled ofr 60 years and is the root cause of practically every problem that concerns the nation. However I also know all politicians are like this only. But then if I have to vote between the two, I will go with the BJP , the lesser evil
RE:US interference is the cause of delay
by sam on Aug 06, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
yeah, MPs may voice their disapproval for the nuclear deal given lack of "clean waiver" by NSG plus the risk of answering cash-for-vote scam. So MMS is playing it safe. Whoever said MMS is a clean politician.
RE:US interference is the cause of delay
by mahabodhi on Aug 06, 2008 08:08 PM Permalink
@Ram Sharma Why you say that Ravi Sharma does not support Left either !Whether Ravi supports Left or not is his descion but why you say that" But I don't think u support Left either, whose MPs were not at all involved in MP bribing scandal." Why bring in Left when Ravi Sharma raises the issue and writes "There is no reason to beleive Vajpayee/BJP would have behaved in a different manner. Compared to what happened/ happens in politics delaying the Monsoon session is an ignorable point." If u want to say and do write that Congress is the most corrupt party so that's ur view!But why bring in Left when you try to defend BJP ! If u think that RSSBJP is good and ENRON was the perfect example of its ethics then you may say that !But why bring in Left !What is the insidious design of your arguement ! Let the Left and other-(Other than RSSBJP - your favoutite ) continue their own way and find solutions to their own probelms !Whether these parties (I leave RSSBJP as this is for you to decide ) are good or not or whethr they can fight the insidious designs of evil forces or can detect the Trojan Horses among themselves will be proved in future!
RE:RE:US interference is the cause of delay
by Manohar on Aug 07, 2008 02:17 PM Permalink
Mahabodhi, Communists have always played the appeaser to muslims so much so that they have ruled w.bengal for 20 years and now we have a mini Bangladesh in W.Bengal. A research by RAW tabled during the Narsimha Rao govt. stated that 50 pct of the seats in W.Bengal are decided by Bangladeshi Muslims. Thats how Communists managed to rule W.Bengal for 20 years. They shall be responsible for another partition. VISIT Google search - Bengal genocide - demography.
RE:is this end of congress?
by Ganesh on Aug 06, 2008 05:58 PM Permalink
The only reason Congress and SP with 12% votes manage to win and rule is beacusewe Hindus vote for caste. In most case educated people do not vote at all. The only way to save the country from Congress is by all 82% voting and thru a legislation (like in Australia where voting is cumpolsory) and votes can be cast from anywhere in the country ( through a paper ballot). Only this will help us from our misries and parasite like Congress.
RE:is this end of congress?
by mahabodhi on Aug 06, 2008 06:39 PM Permalink
@kameena So u say that Congress was started by eminent men -yes eminent white british man Andrews and their Chamcha Gandhi made it to appease the British!That's why the Gandhi was awarded Kaise E Hind for serving British intersts ! And this eminent man Gandhi made Netaji to quit even though Netaji was duly duly Elected Prisident - by party men!Gandhi condemned Dhingra's a nationlist who killed Sir Curzon It is being said in defense of Sir Curzon Wyllie’s assassination that...just as the British would kill every German if Germany invaded Britain, so too it is the right of any Indian to kill any Englishman.... The analogy...is fallacious. If the Germans were to invade Britain, the British would kill only the invaders. They would not kill every German whom they met.... They would not kill an unsuspecting German, or Germans who are guests. He condemned udham singh who killed O'Dyer as well , Ironically, in a statement to the Press, Mahatama Gandhi had condemned the Caxton Hall shooting saying that "the outrage has caused me deep pain. I regard it as an act of insanity...I hope this will not be allowed to affect political judgement" . But these days RSSBJP men seems to like Gandhi who imposed Nehru instead of Sardar Patel as PM !This confirms that Congress was surrogate mother of RSS !
RE:is this end of congress?
by nimit patel on Aug 06, 2008 06:26 PM Permalink
abe tu phir se aa gaya... i told na SP comgress and all are working for you people minority and reservation... from last 60 yr you are giving them vote and they are giving u reservation and subsidy so on that u are living and growing...
even next 60 yrs u people get reservation and subsidy still u will not reach to a good level,.. because u dont want to....
To become a member of the Lok Sabha, a person must be a citizen of India, not less than 25 years of age. The person must be mentally sound and should not be bankrupt. The person should also declare in an affidavit that there are no criminal procedures against him/her. For reserved seats one should be member of scheduled caste or/and tribes. To become a member a person has to win a general election
RE:Real Deal
by ravi sharma on Aug 06, 2008 06:43 PM Permalink
Is there any reason to beleive BJP or any others would have behaved differently of they were in congress's place. BJP can't even coherently explain why they oppose the deal, other than for pulling down the govt.
RE:Real Deal
by Ganesh on Aug 06, 2008 06:57 PM Permalink
They lost the trust vote one one vote , that too was the game plan of the Congress who asked an elected CM ( who was not eligible to vote). If you frankly ask me , Congress has ruled ofr 60 years and is the root cause of practically every problem that concerns the nation. However I also know all politicians are like this only. But then if I have to vote between the two, I will go with the BJP , the lesser evil
RE:Real Deal
by mahabodhi on Aug 06, 2008 07:36 PM Permalink
@ganesh u seem to forget that during 13 days rule RSSBJP led allinaces approved ENRON the most corrupt deal ever even though he Atal Behari Vajpayee had no majority in the LokSabha! But RSSBJP supporters think in terms of only one alternative that is RSSBJP !Nothing wrong in it vote to ur RSSBJP but why try to say that betwen the two evils u choose the lesser evil!When did u vote any other party than RSSBJP !Why try to be sort of intellectual be brave and truthful and say yes I voted for RSSBJP and will vote for RSSBJP ! Why dramitise being innocent!In India there r many alternatives and people choose according to their choice !But for most RSSBJP it is RSSBJP and offcourse if u were Brahmin then the Brahmins of UP Bihar and Rajhsthan were vote bank of Congress- and voted along with minorties ansd SC/sT and in fact ruled as CM of UP/Bihar -Rajasthan as Mishra , Joshi in RaJSTHAN -Tiwari and mant Sharmas amd others ruled under Congress and in fact used Congress though they were always the Trojan Horse of RSS !They used Congress -who in fact is Surrogate mother of RSS- and when they ruled for 50 years and now feel secure economically and sociually they turned TurnCoats and when Congress started loosing minorties votes they turned to their mother orgnisation RSS! But what ever the trick these Brahmins may now use the poors r well aware of their insidious designs and will follow their own March to Proletrian rule !So vote RSSBJP but for others there r many choices !
RE:Real Deal
by Vijay on Aug 06, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
awesome analysis man. you have just stated the naked true facts which alas, our secular hindu brothers dont like to see.
RE:Real Deal
by arp on Aug 06, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
MMS is also turned like shameless politicians after won tainted trust vote with the help of salable MPs ,media and killer MPs.
RE:Real Deal
by balkrishen pandit on Aug 06, 2008 05:58 PM Permalink
Right ... very right... MMS too has lost credibility.. He is no more an honest person...He knows that in the heart of hearts that he is their because of Cash spent by football like Amarsingh. Somebody needs to kick this rotten football out of the political ground
yesterday on tv I saw a poster of simi in the background of their office. It read something like "waiting for Ghaznavi" - if any one of you guys have any idea what it means. I shall tell you- my innocent secular hindu brothers what it means. Ghaznavi is the name of the pakistani medium range missile named after mahmud of ghazni who pillaged hundreds of temples such as those at Somnath and Varanasi, Meerut, etc in 1000 AD. The simi whiches that this missile target indian cities (hindu cities) and once again repeat the deadly history by pillaging hindu cities.
RE:simi
by overblown on Aug 06, 2008 07:50 PM Permalink
and i saw a poster saying some minorities forum blah blah and the best thing was that this banner was honouring haji mastan on his some 20 or something death anniv. Haji mastan was a hardcore smuggler and antinational. I was then wondering where is our country heading to under the rule of congress sp dmk rjd etc.
They know that it is the end and elections were to be held. So, why waste time with parliament discussions and National matters, rather this time can be used to loot the nation much more. Already, so much is spent just to buy these MPs
RE:Next session
by Navratan Sethia on Aug 06, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
clean chit to simi .they all working for congress.bomb blast in bjp ruled states was trick of congress & simi & rajdeep .when sushma said we think joke. now we think deal between congress & simi for jaipur, bangluru,ahmedabad, surat.rajdeep is saleble item.we know standard of media & politician.
RE:Next session
by Manohar on Aug 07, 2008 12:22 PM Permalink
The Arnav,Pranav,Rajdeep clan are all communist stooges who do not believe in any religion except money.
"The whole government machinery is corrupt. We may lay down the law, but who will implement it? It has to be done by the clerks. The secretaries and joint secretaries have no guts to go against the clerks. The law is there, the statute is there, but the governments have become non-functional."
Supreme Court bench comprising Justices B N Agrawal and G S Singhvi,
i think lifting ban on SIMMI and banning RSS, Bajrang Dal and Shiv Sena will put final nail in congress coffin.... i dont think they will be voted to power anytime in future.... because of people like Arjun Singh (reservation) and some muslim leaders in congress....the political careers of leaders like manmohan singh, pranab mukherjee etc will go waste... and so will be dreams of rahul gandhi becoming PM of india... i guess by its very low sightedness congress is forcing people to vote for BJP even if they didnt wish to....
RE:final nail in the coffin
by Vijay on Aug 06, 2008 05:10 PM Permalink
awesome analysis, i was thinking exactly the same. actually i am loving whatever anti-hindu these guys are doing, beacuse that will unite us hindus to vote for bjp.
RE:final nail in the coffin
by nimit patel on Aug 06, 2008 05:23 PM Permalink
u are right but only by this we cant bring bjp in rule next election...
solution is come out for vote at time of election, elect BJP with good number of seat.. that is the solution..
dalit and muslim is 50 cr in india.. other are 60 crores still why congress take care of dalit and muslim... simple because they are doing around 80% voting and literate people like us are not going for vote and we are enjoying holiday at home...
people who like BJP are litereate and doing job in some other location then voting city.. so that votes are not going to bjp.. and their candidate loose..
we know BJP are also not celan from curruption but at least BJP is not making farmers and poor fool by giving subsidy... govt gave 70000 cr laon waiver what benifit it will give ?>> nothing...
instead of that if they spend 10000 rs to 4 farmer for digging a welll.. that can give water to that 4 farmer family and if u divid 70000 cr / 10000 rs = 7 cr family.... that is big number...
but congress dont want to do that... that BJP can do...
if u see 5 yrs plan and check road construction, electricity set up and irrigation land during NDA rule it was very high then avg of congress govt..
and that benifit get indai from 2004 and we achieved 8% GDP growth... 5 yrs hard work ripe from 2004 and remains till 2008... this congress not done any thing and see situation of india today....
BJP has good vision then this cast and reservation politics of congress
RE:final nail in the coffin
by Vijay on Aug 06, 2008 05:28 PM Permalink
perfectly said. though I didnt vote last election, I shall make it a point to vote and also take my family members this election. thats a vow not just a promise.
RE:final nail in the coffin
by nimit patel on Aug 06, 2008 05:31 PM Permalink
last 3 election i gave vote to BJP and also try to convince people to give them... but in my constituency ( ANAND - where AMUL dairy is existed ) BJP is winning from last 18 years... and its really nice town compare to other...
RE:final nail in the coffin
by Vijay on Aug 06, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
i am from karnataka and definitely the mood is towards bjp. the only spoiling factor is caste politics played by that bloody gowda family who are also muslim aka terrorist appeasers. its sad that gowda community always votes for these anti-nationals, very sad.
RE:final nail in the coffin
by hiral joshi on Aug 06, 2008 05:16 PM Permalink
Congress is confident of short-sightedness of common unaware Hindu. Congress and pseudos know that Hindus can be lured for votes by caste and other factors. Thinking Hindus can be cheated in the names of sloganism and on-paper development. Thats why they dare to do such things.
RE:RE:final nail in the coffin
by Vijay on Aug 06, 2008 05:30 PM Permalink
true, thats why i have never ever illtreated any dalit or anyone from other region or language. over only uniting factor should be against these islamic and anti-national parties.
RE:final nail in the coffin
by Manohar on Aug 07, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
Please remember, Muslims (100%) vote in one direction whereas Hindu's votes are divided. There is need for Hindu vote bank which shall ultimately decide and make political parties (any one) to heed our demands just as muslims are able to get the congress/communists to appease them at the slightest whimper.
RE:RE:final nail in the coffin
by nimit patel on Aug 06, 2008 05:27 PM Permalink
at time of independance there were just 5 cr muslim... they are singing like they are doing work fot them from last 50 yrs...
if they develop just 10 lack family a year in 50 yr all muslim can be prosperous and whealthy... is it like that today???
no because they are just making fool to people who even dont know why they are giving vote to congress...
once i heared one old tea stall person he told indira is daughter of mahatma gandhi and rahul is their grand son so we will give vote to congress...
one other also talk like they gave me 5 ltr oil and 5 kg sugar so i will give vote to congress...
this is the way people giving vote to congress...
this time we should at least take people to give vote to BJP to make this family business of congress out of india...
This what is secularism guys........Ban RSS who teaches Nationalism and Cultural Pride and Lift ban on SIMI who wants to liberate india through islam and jihad..........
I dont know when my countrymen will wake up and flush out these congis and commies from my motherland........
