RE:Had there been Modi, merchant of development and strong nationalist, at the center
by Hell Boy on Aug 06, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
Right may be, we would have seen a lot of deadbodies of Hindu and Muslims, or may be we will see some if the fight over religion keeps on going this way. People are so ignorant they still cant see how the politicians are using them for their own benefits. India is infested with such politicians who spread hatred among people based on Religion.
RE:There are more people in Jammu- but Kashmir has more seats in Assembly
by Telly Savalas on Aug 06, 2008 09:18 PM Permalink
It is time hindus like you stand up for equality against desh drohi Sunni,Wahabi, Devobandhi Muslims, who want to wipe out entire Hindu, budhist,christians civilizations,including sadly shia, Khojas,sufis and Ahmedias. They want to replace all languages with Arabic and women to give Birth to Arabs only. In Jammu and Kashmir ,Kashmiri get subsidised food,Money for Huj which is largely used By Gillani for Jihadists. Simi is militia for Jamate islamia a Hind. Simi was born as a sword for JIH. Its function is to annhilate Hindus and shia, and sufis. Time you Hindus asked for three separate state for Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh, and Baltistan and Gilgitstan.And separate government. Ask for food subsidies for hindus all over India and Equvivalent of Hajsabsidies for Yatras. the
Before leaving for the day I have a question for my 'scholar' friend JGN. Chinese oppressed tibetans and you can see that some of them have migrated to different parts of India. Parsis migrated to India due to fear of persecution from muslims. KPs migrated due to fear of violence. The spanish muslims migrated to moroco due to fear of violence. Even in ancient history moses migrated with his people due to fear of persecution. After hundreds of years of Islamic rule in India several states have been carved out based on the language. What does it suggest you ? Have you ever seen a commnity of migrated Afgans in tamil Nadu or any part of India. Even the Kashmiris remained in Kashmir. So it only means that there was NO PERSECUTION. My ancestors converted willingly.
RE:@JGN
by suman singh on Aug 06, 2008 08:54 PM Permalink
Abe eda ho gaya hai kya??? Bas ek baar ja kar aurangzeb ke baare mein pad le, sab malum chal jayega.
RE:@JGN
by purnendu on Aug 06, 2008 08:52 PM Permalink
People without spine often do that .... and people like you who dunno the H of history attest that :P
RE:@JGN
by JGN on Aug 06, 2008 08:56 PM Permalink
The general policy of most of the rulers during the 700 years of Muslim occupation of India was to systematically replace the fabric of Hindu society and culture with a Muslim culture. They tried to destroy Indian religions, language and places of knowledge (universities e.g Nalanda and Taxshila were totally destroyed by Muslims). They destroyed and desecrated places of thousands of temples including Somnath, Mathura, Benaras, Ayodhaya, Kannauj, Thaneswar and in other places. There was wholesale slaughter of the monks and priests and innocent Hindus with the aim to wipe out the intellectual bedrock of the people they overran.
The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease and were never able to rule it entirely. There was a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The Rajputs, Jats, Marathas and Sikhs led this struggle in North India. In the South this struggle was embodied in the Vijayanagar Empire. This struggle culminated when the Marathas ended the Muslim domination of India.
RE:@JGN
by Arif on Aug 06, 2008 09:04 PM Permalink
When there was a wholesale slaughter then why was there no migration ? Yes hindus lined up in front of the invaders and gave their head. :-)) Hindus were never intellectuals !!! Just tell me why do you have to borrow a constitution from the west when you claim to be heirs of a 5000 year old civilization!!!! You only have to give a good reason for the absence of migration. Thats all. Can you ?
RE:RE:@JGN
by JGN on Aug 06, 2008 09:17 PM Permalink
Migration from where? What was the population of muslims at the time of invasion? Once having established, they were only interested in amassing wealth, filling up their harems with beautiful women, building monuments, etc. Neither they cared for conversion nor they cared for those who converted to Islam. If they had cared for the common muslims, there was no need for Sachar Commission and things like that. As in any such conflicts, only the poorest of the poor and the indefensible get affected. So the majority of those who were converted were from the lower strata of Indian society and as such the conditions of muslims are also not better than the lower castes from the native religions.
RE:@JGN
by JGN on Aug 06, 2008 09:14 PM Permalink
Arif, it was the ancestors of the muslims in present day India who suffered at the hands of the Islamic invaders. If you want to treat as an honour to them, nobody has any objection.
Yes, even there was no place called Indian sub-continent before the arrival of Islamic invaders!!!!!!!!!!! Are you happy?
The period of Chandragupta Maurya is known as the "Golden period of Indian history" and that pre-dates even Christianity. Pl read some history rather than parroting skewed logic of Dr. Zakir Naik.
we still do not do this : 1. bomb buildings and kill innocent 2. indulge in genocide of minorities 3. keep 50% of population suppressed (women) 4. feel that all those who do not follow our religion should be killed 5. be ungrateful enough to target the country in which we stay 6. render unsafe any part of the world we have presence in
We want Kashmiris to join India ? No ! Let them go where ever they wish, the land is ours and we will control it by force. May be if Kashmiris vacate Kashmir and go to their Utopia, we will settle our surplus population there.
Hope you got your answer. Now please leave India. We are fed up of you people and will be happier without you.
10,000 forest trees are chopped down to build the Mughal road in Kashmir. No one makes a noise. Acres of land in the Kashmir valley are given to install mobile phone towers. No one screams.
Acres and acres of land in the Kashmir valley are allotted to lay sewage and drinking water pipes. No one objects. But when 40 hectares of uninhabitable land is handed over to the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board to provide better facilities to the Amarnath Yatra [Images] pilgrims, all hell breaks loose. Why? Because the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board caters to Hindu pilgrims who want to visit the Amarnath shrine in the valley of Kashmir. It is as simple as that.. It is a design by communal forces within the valley to completely Islamicise the valley by removing every symbol of Hinduism and other faiths from the valley.Heavy rains, snowstorms, landslides and hostile environment took away 256 lives during the yatra in 1996. And yet Omar Abdullah and Mufti have the audacity to promote the status quo!
RE:Raise voice against fundamentalists
by purnendu on Aug 06, 2008 08:44 PM Permalink
May be if Kashmiris vacate Kashmir and go to their Utopia, we will settle our surplus population there. Please leave. We donot need you parasites.
RE:Let us save our Hindu brothers
by Mohammed Islamul on Aug 06, 2008 09:05 PM Permalink
I am a muslim living in Chennai. Chennai is one of the cleanest cities in India. Can you tell me a city which has conservation efforts happening every day in the morning ? not in Mumbai - Not in India's own Kashmir. Yes Kashmir is India's and not Pakistan.
For heaven's sake, those who support Pakistan, please cross over to the other side. Dont tarnish the names of INDIAN peace loving muslims like me. We have no issues in living amicably with other hindus and christians.
You kashmiri muslims kept silent during the 90s hindu genocide. Shame.
RE:Raise voice against fundamentalists
by JGN on Aug 06, 2008 09:24 PM Permalink
Dear Mohammed Islamul, it seems that the North Indians muslims have a sort of inferiority complex due their ancestory. In the South the conversion was mainly peaceful (except for a few stray incidents like the invasion of Tippu and Malabar riots of 1921). by seers like Malik Deenar. I am also from South and had a muslim driver during my last visit to Chennai for a whole day. Though he had told me his name in the morning, I did not feel that he is a muslim the whole day. I remembered again that he is a muslim when he wrote 786 on top of the bill.
RE:RE:If it were a good religion...
by purnendu on Aug 06, 2008 08:42 PM Permalink
we still do not do this : 1. bomb buildings and kill innocent 2. indulge in genocide of minorities 3. keep 50% of population suppressed (women) 4. feel that all those who do not follow our religion should be killed 5. be ungrateful enough to target the country in which we stay 6. render unsafe any part of the world we have presence in
We want Kashmiris to join India ? No ! Let them go where ever they wish, the land is ours and we will control it by force. May be if Kashmiris vacate Kashmir and go to their Utopia, we will settle our surplus population there
