Arif says->"Have you ever seen a community of migrated Afghans in TamilNadu or any part of India, Even the Kashmiris remained in Kashmir. what do you expect? where was the place for them to escape Islam? Mr. Arif please do follow; it is not your fault, self denial and delusion are the only way for you as if now. Have you ever heard of Guru Tegbahadur? why he got martyred? i have all the sympathy for you there is now way for you to escape Islam least you will be killed according to Islamic law. Am i wrong??? Have you ever pondered to the statement how "Kashmir is the Haven on earth?" Let me tell you it was indeed like heaven to Islamic criminals hundreds of virgin comparable in beauty to the whoors of the jannat of their imagination were at their disposal with the absence of any tangible resistance. The people of Kashmir went every where to ask some one to protect them Guru Tegbahadur died for them but they never produce Maharanapratap, Guru Govindsingh,or Shivaji of their own and thus you came to being. Put poll tax on Muslim and see what happens, read some thing about the history of Spain you will know. As for Afghanistan, just read what Al-baruni have to say about what the people of Afghanistan have suffered by the hands of Muslim invaders and where have they took shelter. also for your information read what "Hindu kush" means. The people of Afghanistan met with such cruelty which they could not endure. and it is largely the case with all Muslim countries. This is not the
RE:@Arif
by vinayak purohit on Aug 07, 2008 01:36 AM Permalink
secular india u look to be a joker of sangh parivar who cook ur own histrory to suite u.shivaji killed thousands of banias of surat&other gujrati places robbed them as he was robbed by brahamins of benaras during coronation ceremony.hindu magnify him u lack icons.now as he was backward balthakre(kayasth) supporting him for vote politics.he was mountain rat nothing more. hindu kush is hindu khosht(mountain)an iranian word means mountain on indian side. history of spain read this was most prosperous &agvanced &secular country of europe during muslim rule still they feel proud of that period.destroyed by catholics millions of jews&mulims &pagans were mascared during their period.guru govind maharana pratap etc were local terrorist having no public support.as most of hindus were part of moghul coalation. the amount voilence which was perpetuted by aryans have no parallel all ur books geeta ramayana mahabharat are war stories in which millions of people werre killed. aryans extincted budhdhist jainese.enslaved the local population.hinduism is brahaminical imperialism which institutionalize racism.ur temples were full of devdasis wek woman.u institutionalize the murder of woman through.u have complete history of voilence &destruction behind u. moghul built india.during their period british called them sone ki chidia.that is why they came here. just to unfold zoinist plan of destroying india through internal strife u b*a8t*ards are wrinting rss(rumour spreading society)his
RE:@Arif
by Dipta Mukherjee on Aug 07, 2008 11:39 AM Permalink
U can be a good jester for the tinsel town as there is a serious darth of genuine "clown" there. Why r u sailing under false color. if u r stout-hearted u should disclose yr true name as we all can sense u are 1 of the muslim terrorists who has chartered a hindu appellation.
RE:@Arif
by vinayak purohit on Aug 07, 2008 10:28 AM Permalink
mr jgn i feel shame of my name when i see few criminal hindus spreading lies&hatred on this blog.truth is proud of hindus lie is shame.hurting others is more
RE:@Arif
by JGN on Aug 07, 2008 09:21 AM Permalink
>>>>>> Even the Kashmiris remained in Kashmir........no, they did not remain in Kashmir except for a few who stayed back either due to attachment to the land or fear of the unknown. Last year I had met a Kashmiri at Vadodara who told me that they have no intention to return to Kashmir. They are now settled down in Vadodara. Many of the defence personnel in Pune also have settled down in Pune itself.
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by vinayak purohit on Aug 07, 2008 09:54 AM Permalink
they have settled in vadora because of better conditions before also these brahamins being educated used to leave state for better prospects.it is not.BUT THIS IS WRONG TO SAY THAT KASHMIRI MUSLIMS HARRASED THEM.THEY R WAITING FOR THEIR RETURN.kashmiri hindus were removed from state by a hindu nazi JAGMOHAN to communalize the problem.all hindu religious placees are intact &well maintained.2200 MOSQUES IN INDIAN PUNJAB ARE IN ILLEGAL POSESSION OF HINDUS&SIKH DO SOMETHING FOR THEM.
It is time to create jammu and ladaak as separate states so that army and other security agencies can better deal with terrorist in Kashmir and the protection of Buddhist, Sikhs and Hindus can be ensured.
What is this drama calling all party meet? It seems like an examination without examinees. Common sense demands that the agitating parties Sri Amarnath Sangrash Samiti, Huriyat and representatives of Jammu and Kashmir should have been asked to attend the meet. Prime Minister has instead called President Sonia Gandhi(his madam), Pranab Mukherjee, Home Minister Shivraj Patil, Defence Minister A K Antony, Farooq Abdullah,Ghulam Nabi Azad, Mehbooba Mufti (architect of the turmoil), Sitaram Yechury (communist),Sharad Yadav, Amar Singh(New found dalal),A B Bardhan (communist), L.K.Advani, Arun Jaitley, and Raj nath Singh Since PM cannot take any decision without his catholic madam Sonia; she was ok. Pranab Mukherjee; What an external affairs minister had to do with it? Shiv Raj Patil; home minister though incompetent one; he too was ok Farooq Abdullah ; from J&K N.C. ; ok Ghulam Nabi Azad; from J&K congress though having no base of his own; ok Mehbooba Mufti ; A lady militant hand in gloves with terrorists and architect of the turmoil ; ok Sitaram Yechury and A B Bardhan; communists –are said to non believers, what they have to do with faith? Amar Singh; In which capacity, except being a new found dalal of congress?
L.K.Advani, Arun Jaitley, and Rajnath Singh; BJP, they better take care of their MPs and run after them so that they receive money and vote for them, they have Ram Mandir and Sethusamandar to cry for. Dr. Karan Singh, Mirwaiz U
RE:All-party meet
by aandhi on Aug 06, 2008 10:32 PM Permalink
Dr. Karan Singh, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq , Sri Amarnath Sangrash Samiti spearheading the agitation, and other Kashmiri Muslim and Hindu leaders should have been there to discus the present turmoil, its repercussions and the solution. This meet is a drama and clearly depicts that the politicians want to be selective even on burning issues, the meet carries no meaning in absence of Sri Amarnath Sangrash Samiti who are involved in the struggle and Mirwaiz Umar Farooq from whom evil PDP snatched the initiative of opposing the allotment. The best solution would be :- 1. Call Governer Vohra, a stooge of Mufti Syed, back and send some sincere person as Governor of J&K. Former Punjab DGP Mr. Gill or Gen. JJ Singh can be choices. 2. Reconstitute Shri Amarnath Shrine Board with only State Subjects of J&K, who under art. 370 can own land in J&K, having no political affiliations as its members and Chairman. Kashmiris will not oppose giving land to such an arrangement, they have no right oppose.
kashmiri leaders must stop to think why they can own a bungalow in Delhi or Bangalore and at the same time deny that privilege to a fellow Indian in Kashmir?
Kashmiri Muslim leaders would like to enjoy the fruits and liberties of a Hindu majority democracy but vehemently deny that to Hindus in their area of influence. Why?
When they are in a minority they crave and get special privileges. But once a majority, every single right to be at par is refused to other minorities.
It's the same phenomenon all over the globe. A direct consequence of turning Wahabi. Wahabi intolerance and separatism is poisoning Muslim brotherhood too. A brilliant report in TOI elaborating how Wahabi elements are gaining ground in the small towns of Gujarat and the softer, humane version of Islam, the Bareilevi school, which is resisting their aggressive expansionism makes an interesting reading and gives a frightening picture of the inter-communal strife within Muslim society.
Kashmir is predominantly Sunni and Wahabi. Hence the intolerance that denies even the basic features of Kashmiriyat.
Kashmiri leaders must stop to think why they can own a bungalow in Delhi or Bangalore and at the same time deny that privilege to a fellow Indian in Kashmir?
Kashmiri Muslim leaders would like to enjoy the fruits and liberties of a Hindu majority democracy but vehemently deny that to Hindus in their area of influence. Why?
When they are in a minority they crave and get special privileges. But once a majority, every single right to be at par is refused to other minorities.
It's the same phenomenon all over the globe. A direct consequence of turning Wahabi. Wahabi intolerance and separatism is poisoning Muslim brotherhood too. A brilliant report in TOI elaborating how Wahabi elements are gaining ground in the small towns of Gujarat and the softer, humane version of Islam, the Bareilevi school, which is resisting their aggressive expansionism makes an interesting reading and gives a frightening picture of the inter-communal strife within Muslim society.
Kashmir is predominantly Sunni and Wahabi. Hence the intolerance that denies even the basic features of Kashmiriyat.
Jammu is witnessing a mass patriotic uprising, unprecedented till now. Entire Jammu was enveloped in the Tricolour outshining the 1952 Praja Parishad movement, which demanded one flag, one constitution and one head of the state. Dr Syama Prasad Mookerjee was martyred for this cause in the jail of Sheikh Abdullah, grandfather of Omar. The situation hasn't changed in the last 56 years. It has in fact worsened.
Such a mass movement goes beyond the controls of any party or organisation. For the last 20 days, the roads are empty and markets closed. The sudden eruption of protests has seen grandfathers and grandsons and mothers and grandmothers ringing bells against Muslim separatism and shouting at the top of their voice: "Har har Mahadev". Such a protest by every single member of families who had never come out for a public demonstration can't be engineered. It's an uprising, a spontaneous expression of anger accumulated in the last five decades of misrule by people of suspect loyalties. The Doctor’s Association, Bar Association and Govt. Employees Association, Sikhs, Gujjar-Bakkarwal Muslims and Congress MLAs defying their party, the Hotel Association and every single sect of Hindu society have joined and supported the movement
8:65 O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence
4:74 Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.
The trajectory of Muslim state is now familiar. It remains unstable till it becomes religious; after it becomes religious it remains unstable till it becomes theocratic; after it becomes theocratic, it threatens its neighbours, both Muslim and non-Muslim alike and is attacked by international armies under Chapter seven of UN Charter. The Caliphate of Afghanistan was attacked in 2001 but Pakistan saved itself by betraying its client, the Taliban and ducking out of the conflict. Now the Imamate of Iran may be about to be attacked.
RE:Why does?
by JGN on Aug 06, 2008 10:21 PM Permalink
This is one news from your so-called Islamic Utopia:
Iran has sentenced eight women and one man convicted of adultery to death by stoning, activists said Sunday.
A lawyer and women's rights activist, Shadi Sadr, said the nine, who are between 27 and 50 years old, were convicted of adultery in separate cases in different Iranian cities. Trial protocol was not applied properly in the cases, she said.
Six of the nine were convicted based solely on judges' decisions with no witnesses or the presence of their lawyers during their confessions, said Sadr, who has been leading a campaign in Iran against stoning deaths.
"Their verdicts are approved, and they may be executed at any time," she told reporters. "We are trying to stop the implementation of their verdicts. And we want to amend the country's penal law, in which death by stoning is prescribed."
Under Iran's Islamic laws, adultery is the only capital offense punishable by stoning. A man is usually buried up to his waist, while a woman is buried up to her neck. Those carrying out the verdict then throw stones until the condemned dies.
Stoning was widely imposed in the early years after Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution, but it has seldom been applied in recent years, though the government rarely confirms when it carries out stoning sentences.
Reformist legislators have demanded an end to death by stoning as a punishment for adultery, but opposition from hard-line clerics has sidelined their efforts. Los Angele
RE:Why does?
by Arumugham on Aug 06, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
A NATION WIDE PROTEST SHOULD BE DONE TO HIGHLIGHT THE HINDUS PLIGHT. HINDUS ALL OVER THE WORLD UNITE AND FIGHT IT OUT. KICK THIS DUMMY UPA GOVT. OUT
RE:Why does?
by Jitendra Kumar on Aug 06, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia,Uganda etc muslim countries are rich and disease free.Human life has some value in these countries. You are free to migrate to those countries Mr Murda Dil
RE:Spirit of Guru Govind Singhji must be revived to save India
by JGN on Aug 06, 2008 10:06 PM Permalink
Mr.abhimanyu, it would be better if we all get rid of the religious dogmas. I would recommend Buddhism if at all any one wants to convert as the principles of Buddhism are much more refined than the principles of any other religion. The buddhists think of the well being of all living things (not only humanbeings). Btw no religion has ever stopped people committing crimes. Pl search for "War Crime Tribunal" to know about the atrocities committed by the participants of WW-II, especially by the Japanse, predminently beleiving in Buddhist non-violence!
