In his book Like the Flowing River, Paulo Coelho talks about "The Catholic and the Muslim."
I was talking to a Catholic priest and a young Muslim man over lunch. When the waiter came by with a tray, we all helped ourselves, except the Muslim, who was keeping the annual fast prescribed by the Koran. When lunch was over and people were leaving, one of the other guests couldn't resist saying: "You see how fanatical these Muslims are! I'm glad to see you Catholics aren't like them."
"But we are," said the priest. "He is trying to serve God just as I am. We merely follow different laws." And he concluded: "It's a shame that people see only the differences that separate them. If you were to look with more love, you would mainly see what we have in common, then half the world's problems would be solved."
Re: Read this
by saraswathi ramachandran rama on Sep 18, 2008 10:31 AM Permalink
a good point,and so great is the 'love for their GOD' that fellow human beings can be tortured and killled as kafirs.After all jihadis are 'freedom fighters for their religion'.Nobody admits to be a terrorist.yes Christian missionaries are also serving THEIR God when the cheat poor desperate people to convert.Nobody serves human beings.All serve a non-existent God who is obviously telling things like Satan!
Does any know that the person recently caught in the fake currency racket is a Hindu, Mr. Sudhakar Tripathi a Head Cashier employed with the State Bank of India, was involved in the circulation of fake currency for the past two years, all the major news channels and newspapers kept the news in the dark deliberately, REASON BECAUSE A HINDU WAS INVOLVED IN IT? Had a Muslim being arrested the media would have nailed not only the individual but also the entire family, HAIL THE SECULAR MEDIA OF INDIA. Mr. Triathi was involved in the racket and has circulated crores of fake currency all over India, but I am sure that over the passage of months, the media will forget it, the bank authorities will lift the suspension, and the employee after greasing some palms, will be on his job again. But had any Muslim been involved only Allah the Almighty knows what could have been the consequences not only for the individual but for also his/her relatives.
RE:Hindu SBI employee in fake currency racket
by sarat babu on Aug 05, 2008 11:59 PM Permalink
may be you have a point. But the reason why they won't print the article is no one will read. but if you add some extra sentences like muslim, terrorism, then of course everyone will read. this is human tendency. Wether in India or anywhere else in world
RE:Hindu SBI employee in fake currency racket
by AlwaysPeace on Aug 06, 2008 12:51 AM Permalink
WHY all the newspaper joining the religion with the Terrorist attacks. ISLAMIC TERRORIST / TERRORISM. I never find HINDU TERRORIST.. In GUJARAT Thousands of muslims were killed..not even a single newspaper it was mentioned as HINDU TERRORIST.... People has to think... I request the people that who dont know any thing about islam.... Please learn about islam...
Re: Hindu SBI employee in fake currency racket
by saraswathi ramachandran rama on Sep 18, 2008 10:32 AM Permalink
mr.s iddiqui,hindus muslims all are humans,but muslims have been brainwashed.The Hindu guy did not do fake currency business FOR HIS RELIGION.No matter how much evidence is there all over the world,you guys will NEVER question your religion,,your Quran and yourselves.What is the reality of a religion that DISCOURAGES introspection?
Re: Re: Hindu SBI employee in fake currency racket
by saraswathi ramachandran rama on Sep 18, 2008 10:34 AM Permalink
we know the truth about Islam.that is why we oppose it.
RE:Hindu SBI employee in fake currency racket
by Juhi Pandey on Aug 06, 2008 01:32 AM Permalink
In my opinion,all those who take violent path for their interest(not the national interest) is a TERRORIST!I dont see any difference in terrorists terrifying for their so called MAZHAB and/or their REVENGE (Like one of my friend said,HINDU TERRORISTS in GUJARAT).It is true,that its a matter of how we think.People who justify any killings and do such kind of killings in revenge and people who kill others in any way,are actually the terrorists.
We must control our emotions and put our mind and not the heart(All the time).Who is INSIDER and who is OUTSIDER?In due course,we become both.One can't decide if he/she has so much hatred in his/her heart.It wouldn't be a fair decision.
The system need a change.We have 70% of young population in the country.Its upto us, how and what do we feel.Common men has to come up with their thoughts and compare others thoughts.We must be honest while choosing our leader.Its a high time,we dont get this chance every day,week or year.We must decide,which leader (not the party,because more or less all the parties are same and their agendas are also same)deserves to get our precious vote.
Please remember,if we choose a good or a deserving leader,then only we can get proper people sitting in the assembly.And,those proper and deserving people can represent our country.Atleast this kind of case won't come up so frequent.
I'm not a supporter of BJP,CONG,SP,BSP,etc.I am your friend who can advice & who has full right to write freely over here.
RE:Hindu SBI employee in fake currency racket
by shaik faheem on Aug 06, 2008 01:50 AM Permalink
thx a lot for a truthful opnion. wht these people wanna do is to divide us n if we keep on bashing each other rather than bashing the corruption, poverty, injustice we will never achieve developed n prosperous india. i saw so may posts hating one community. just we cant ignore them 200 million people. ( can u ignore ex presi abdul kalam)
I am seeing a lot of Police bashing articles. Do you really think that Police can lay hands on minorities simply like that in the midst of a secular UPA govt. Of course I do accept that there were cases of Police highhandedness. But to simply bash them every time they do something is ridiculous. Has anyone any reply to why so many muslim youths are living in an illusionary world of jehad. From whom do they want liberation. What are they hoping to achieve through this so called jehad? Why are youths targetted. Most of the people arrested were either poor youths or are so called intellectuals. This seems similar to the Naxal movement.
By writing this I am taking the risk of being labeled by my friends. Some will try to put me into one stereotype mould or another. This is a risk worth taking for the questions that I have on my mind.
After every bomb blast or terrorist incident, security “experts,” analysts and media channels repeat similar things that people accept as the gospel truth. However, I have many questions and doubts that need to be cleared before I can accept the explanations given by these “experts.” Maybe these are not questions. Maybe I am just curious or have some doubts in my mind.
Q1. Why is it, that even after receiving information about impending bomb blasts, security agencies are unable to stop them?
Q2. How is it that, only minutes after a blast has occurred, security agencies are able to find the names and locations of the people responsible as well as their links and organizations?
Q3. How is it that security agencies that find major clues soon after a blast, are unable to reach any conclusions in their investigations of the Malegaon, Samjhauta Express, or the Mumbai Train explosions even after months have passed, during which time scores of young lives are destroyed inside prison cells for years.
Q4. Even if one believes that there is some organization behind these blasts that is doing it in the name of Islam… then why are there explosions in Hyderabad, Varanasi, Malegaon and what are the people responsible for those attacks tr
Re: plz go through it
by saraswathi ramachandran rama on Sep 18, 2008 10:40 AM Permalink
Because the terrorrists are sending mail just before the blasts.How much can the security forced do if the mulsims hide the terorists them in their backyard.Do you not read what the terrorists have said?their organisation is international.It is done by brainwashing scores of Muslims.Police an society cannot handle f major chunk of population becomes terrorist.You guys are also hiding this by not bringing out the truth.
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by shaik faheem on Aug 05, 2008 10:44 PM Permalink
4. Even if one believes that there is some organization behind these blasts that is doing it in the name of Islam… then why are there explosions in Hyderabad, Varanasi, Malegaon and what are the people responsible for those attacks trying to achieve?
Q5. Kashmiri militants want to liberate Kashmir by causing explosions there. Do these terrorists want to liberate Hyderabad and Malegaon?
Q6. When militancy was at its extreme in Kashmir, even then there were Islamic militants. Why didn’t they conduct attacks in the rest of India then? What has changed that they are able to do it now?
Q7. Terrorist organizations, i.e. Al-Qaida, Jaish-e-Mohammad and others like them do all this work and chose to work anonymously? Why? These organizations want people to be afraid of them. They are not legally registered organizations or follower of law… then why would they be afraid of taking responsibility of their actions?
Q8. Why is it that after every blast only people of one religion are arrested?
Q9. Why are only Muslim organizations expected to condemn attacks after any terrorist activity? So the Ulema, Muslim organizations are in the forefront of condemnation. What about the Hindu (not Hindutva) organizations, Shankracharyas and Gurus? Are they also expected to issue statements? Are Muslims living under the shade of fear that they are forced to issue statements of condemnation?
Q10. Why Muslims are not able to easily believe the result of an investigation or arrests? Why have they los
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by shaik faheem on Aug 05, 2008 10:45 PM Permalink
Q10. Why Muslims are not able to easily believe the result of an investigation or arrests? Why have they lost faith in the state?
Q11. Independent teams that investigated blasts in Nanded and Malegaon have pointed to some organizations… why aren’t security agencies looking at those organizations? The truth of the attack on the RSS headquarters is also out, then why isn’t anyone investigating at these organizations?
Q12. A bomb that was being made in the house of the slain BJP leader in UP that was allegedly supposed to kill an MLA, accidentally exploded, destroying the whole house. In Pratapgarh, another bomb exploded which was a pressure cooker bomb … so, it seems that it is not difficult to make a bomb or that it is work of a particular community… Just imagine, if any Muslim was found to be involved in any of these incidents then what would have happened?
Q13. How many of us know about Deoband, Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, Tablighi Jamat, Jamat-e-Islami, SIMI, Jamat Ahle Hadith?
Q14. How many of us attempt to know about those youths who were arrested just because they know Arabic, or they traveled with the Tablighi Jamat, they study in a Madrasa, or they started taking more interest in their religion… or simply their names connect them to a particular religious community.
Q15. If some youth of a particular religion are involved in terror activities then what went wrong in this country that is encouraging them to move over to the wrong side of the law…. Only the lust of money i
RE:plz go through it
by Baski on Aug 05, 2008 11:03 PM Permalink
Sir - It would be really kind of you to also consider the terror arrests made all over the world. Do you think that each country is targetting Muslims. Could you please let us know why Muslims flock to Madrassas and not to any common schools or colleges. Could you also please let us know why there are bomb blasts in the Muslim state of Pakistan. Have the Muslims lost faith in the state of Pakistan. What about the recent blasts in China. The responsibility was taken up by a Muslim organisation. This was a recent happening. Sir we would be enlightened if you could help us understand this.
RE:plz go through it
by Guest on Aug 05, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
DEAR FRIEND I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU RAISING THE QUESTION BUT DO YOU THINK IT STARTED ONE DAY WHY SOME COUNTRIES FUNDING MONEY TO CONVERT PEOPLE OF SOME SECT TO WAHABISM, WHY ATTACK ON AJMER, MALEGAON. LOOK FOR THESE ANSWERS IN YOUR SELF AND REFER TO YOUR HOLY BOOK. YOU WILL GET THE ANSWER.(REFERENCE QAYAMAT )
RE:plz go through it
by rakesh sadhu on Aug 05, 2008 11:37 PM Permalink
the fact is that wherever there are muslims in the world, there is unrest. can you explain it?
RE:plz go through it
by gunjan pandey on Aug 06, 2008 01:48 AM Permalink
Wrong!!! We (The Hindu) have the HINDU TERRORISTS too... People who killed people (you can say muslims) in revenge, were also the terrorists... I dont see any difference in Bajrang Dal, SIMI, LeT, VHP, etc... All are terrorists groups. We all know, killings are not allowed everywhere.. Why there is a law for such kind of sins? Because, thats not allowed and not acceptable in Quran, Gita, Ramayan, Bible, etc... We make our system/laws but we dont follow it...
Terrorist means Fanatic, activist(Violent) or who is not moderate... Don't we see hatred in Hindu hearts too? Sir, please dont call me congressi, or Samajwadi.. I dont belong to any parties or any dal. I am free Indian who can write anything over here...
In my opinion, Terrorists have no caste/religion/heart. If you can recall Bombay blasts, Ahmedabad blasts, Malegaon, Ajmer, Delhi, Jaipur, etc... Do you think any religious person can do it? I dont know whats written in Islamic book - Quran, but I am sure, killing on Jihad basis can't be written...
World is changing... US is accepting Blacks (Negros) which they never did in past... Fresh example is Barack Obama.. He is going to contest the US president election...
We are hitting our back and getting influenced with what our politics says and media believes... We are not applying our mind.. But, its a high time now.. we can vote once again (but this time after applying lot of thought process)... I would vote for the deserving candidate.. And you?
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by shaik faheem on Aug 06, 2008 01:40 AM Permalink
@ siddhart sir, yes i understand ur opinion. but i dont agree with u. i will not give list of the terrorist org in the world which killed in the name of religion. u can google ur self. how come the atta the key person in sep elev is not a practising muslim. he had a girl frind ,drinking n miles away frm religion. if u say he is a muslim its a disgrace for me. anyway, if a muslim does a bad deed in the name of religion a little inteeli person can say that its the fault of few people not the religion. like kkk killed african americans in usa in the name of color , so can we decide that the white skin is evil. like wise among hindus we had caste n sect wars before thousands were butchered by each of them.can we justify in saying that all people following saivism r vaisnavis r wrong. cming to ur imp quote which most of the people gladly copy n paste with out even having basic knowledge of world history n politics. can u answer me actually whn did this all started . yeh man did u watch rambo 3, where our hero goes n fight the occupied comminusts in kabul n helping the local militia. they r the same people jus 15 yrs ago, people who had soft corner in west. now jus after 15 yrs they became wht they r.
RE:plz go through it
by sarat babu on Aug 06, 2008 12:07 AM Permalink
The fact is Where ever there are hindu's or christians or muslims or jains etc etc there is unrest. Don't try to explain on these grounds. Do you think all muslims have no other work then start making a bomb or learn how to spread jihad, They have family, children and they need to feed them bomb is something a person who has no other work does
Re: Re: plz go through it
by saraswathi ramachandran rama on Sep 18, 2008 10:41 AM Permalink
Because the terrorrists are sending mail just before the blasts.How much can the security forced do if the mulsims hide the terorists them in their backyard.Do you not read what the terrorists have said?their organisation is international.It is done by brainwashing scores of Muslims.Police an society cannot handle f major chunk of population becomes terrorist.You guys are also hiding this by not bringing out the truth.
This article depicts the plight of the so called poor people. Being poor does not mean that one is innocent. What is the purpose of this article in Rediff. If it really wants to bring justice out, it should investigate it thoroughly. Has the poor father any answer to why his son was arrested thrice before.
What is the purpose of this article? Are we suppose to feel sorry for her because she is poor? Is author trying to prove that often minorities and poor people get arrested even though they are innocent? There is so much talent in India. I don't understand why do these type of articles get written and published
