They are lawmakers and nobody has a right to question him. Moreover this is prestige issue for CM of TN because when opposition has filed the petition means, ruling party have whimsical to reply it or not. Though matter went to Hon. Apex court so naturally whomsoever he has to reply. Moreover present CM himself told several times I will always honour the judgement of court but why he delayed for such reply. Let them he or his government to reply immediately otherwise unnecessary consequence will happen which government is very well aware.
A few weeks ago, Tamil Nadu’s CM had put on hold the Hogenakal Scheme stating that it would be taken up only after the formation of the government in Karnataka. Even after the formation of the government he is not in a hurry to press the issue. Now that the UPA Government has won the trust vote he has given a ‘go ahead’ for the continuation of the project without consulting Yeddyurappa. The Centre has all of a sudden come up with a view that Lord Rama had destroyed the bridge himself and that no religious sanctity needs be attached to the issue. The speed with which the issue was taken up right after the trust vote speaks volumes about the clout wielded by Karunanidhi at the Centre even though he is heading a minority government. If every minority party takes advantage of the contribution made by them to win the trust vote, who will take care of States ruled by other parties? And where is democracy?
RE:Karunanidhi s political clout at the Centre
by Siva on Aug 04, 2008 02:37 PM Permalink
S S, Please be uptodate on news. KK ordered the implementation of Hogennekkal scheme, the next day after Karnataka elections and not after UPA winning the trust vote. The project is scheduled to be completed in 2011, as originally planned.
The centre has not suddenly come up with the idea that Lord Rama had destroyed the bridge. Some Achariyaar made this comment, long before. The same question was then asked to Cho that this achariyaar had said that it had been mentioned in Ramayana that Rama destroyed the bridge himself. Cho's simple reply was 'based on the book I read, there is no such point'. So, both the people who support and oppose dont have a clue about what they are talking about. There can be beliefs and sentiments. But, forcing those beliefs and sentiments on others and making it a fact is rubbish.
The only point of discussion should be, whether this project is going to improve the Indian economy or not.
RE:RE:Karunanidhi s political clout at the Centre
by Sanjay Chetty on Aug 04, 2008 02:48 PM Permalink
Stupid! Sentiments holds the biggest priority in this so called secular country! Economy and convenience is the last. Why should only Hindu's sentiments be devalued for the sake of economy? If there are people who believe that Ram didnt destroy the Sethu, then there is every reason for them to ask not to proceed with this and hurt their sentiments.
RE:Karunanidhi s political clout at the Centre
by sony kalloor on Aug 04, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
Karunanithi atleast had the guts to tell the truth unlike many others !!Yes it may be a little bitter . He has been a scholar and an ethist and had his views always made public. What so new in this
RE:Karunanidhi s political clout at the Centre
by Sanjay Chetty on Aug 04, 2008 02:44 PM Permalink
Yea, nothing new. But it is only against Hindus he show his guts. He asked "in which engg college did Lord Ram study". Can he show the same guts to ask the same question about Allah or Jesus? Forget Jesus or Allah, can he show the guts to speak against a Padre or Mullah? Their communities will pulverize him! Just because Hindus are peace loving shouldnt be taken as a reason to hit them on every occassion.
RE:Karunanidhi s political clout at the Centre
by sathya narayanan on Aug 04, 2008 02:35 PM Permalink
if he is such a great atheist would he say there is no allah to the muslims?
RE:RE:Karunanidhi s political clout at the Centre
by Siva on Aug 04, 2008 02:39 PM Permalink
Sathya Narayanan, He does not say that there is no Lord Muruga and Lord Siva to tamils, as well.
They are lawmakers and nobody has a right to question him. Moreover this is prestige issue for CM of TN because when opposition has filed the petition means, ruling party have whimsical to reply it or not. Though matter went to Hon. Apex court so naturally whomsoever he has to reply. Moreover present CM himself told several times I will always honour the judgement of court but why he delayed for such reply. Let them he or his government to reply immediately otherwise unnecessary consequence will happen which government is very well aware.
RE:Let them agree your government mistake
by Ideal on Aug 04, 2008 02:46 PM Permalink
What do you mean by prestigious issue. Whose prestige are you talking about. This is a national issue. Its not always SC gets it rite or able to influence situation. No one is above law. If Karunanidhi.. whatever his contributions(seriously he has just started being a decent human recent days only.. he never cared earlier about anybody) he still is a citizen of the country just like u and me. These politicians irrespective of number of years they served, come and go. But, law of the land is permanent. It is not a question what answers he gives in public and newspaper. If there is request by law.. he should give it a reply the way its demanded. Dont try to support people blindly. Support the issues and not people.
RE:Raman is Good
by Parpanna Thevadiyal on Aug 04, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
Vijay, am not talking about North South divide. Raman is God of North, do you agree with me. Raj Thakeray kicking all North out of Maharashtra
OK tell me which Ramayana is correct, is it Tulsi, Valmiki, Kumbha, Chandra.
RE:Hang MK
by Dude on Aug 04, 2008 02:27 PM Permalink
You Indian should thank ful to Brit and Sardar Patel. Only this two ppl is the reason behind the INDIA. First Biritsh next one Guju LOL. Because of World Bank Money still India other wise. UN might had 24 new nations. its true there might more the 24 nations lol.
RE:Hang MK
by arjun on Aug 04, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
communal!!!!!!!! nothing wrong against hindus is communal..... ha ha ha.... i feel pity on tanilians electing him....
RE:Hang MK
by anant narayanan narayanan on Aug 04, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
This Karunanidhi is fooling the Tamil Population by various methods. These majority of Tamil population also fall in his prey. As if he thinks that he is the saviour and authority of Tamil. Mad people also believe this. He is totally a corrupt, money-minded politician. He wants only his family members to dominate. He must be thrown. Let him take retirement. Who wants him? Let him give way to his son or some youngster.
RE:Hang MK
by sony kalloor on Aug 04, 2008 02:31 PM Permalink
I do not know on what standings you call your self good enough to make sattements like who wants him ? when he is the chief minister of Tamil Nadu , Unless untill you have got tamil nadu a your dowry
THE POLITICIANS HAVE SCANT RESPECT FOR RULE OF LAW. THE ONLY REMEDY TO BRING THEM TO BOOK IS BAN THEM FROM CONTESTING ANY ELECTION FOR 10 YEARS THEN THEY WILL REALISE. TOO MUCH FREEDOM IS KILLING LAW IN THIS COUNTRY. WHETHER SHOWS THE SAME ATTITUDE AND KEEP ON GIVING TIME TO ORDINARY CITIZENS TO RESPOND TO THE NOTICES. THE GOVERNMENT AND POLITICIANS THINK THEY ARE THE LAW MAKERS AND COURTS CANNOT PUNISH THEM.
RE:SETHUSAMUDRAM ISSUE
by rohiet on Aug 04, 2008 02:33 PM Permalink
Spread the news that Kurananiddi is destroying the 'ADAM BRIDGE' (RAM Sethu) through which Adam crossed over to SriLanka to do a penance for 1000 years at Adam's peak.
See how will UPA and DMK will come forward to save it.
RE:SETHUSAMUDRAM ISSUE
by radhakrishnan on Aug 04, 2008 02:49 PM Permalink
NO ONE IS ABOVE LAW.IN DEMOCRACY WE HAVE TO RESPECT LAW & FOR THIS THE APEX COURT IS ENTRUSTED THE ONEROUS TASK OF STATING/interpreting THE LAW AS ENSHRINED IN OUR CONSTITUTION.It is an accepted view that the judiciary -pronouncements are to be respected & followed by all & if their judgement is not acceptable the agrieved party can file an application for a review of the judgement.IN constitution there is no provision to disobey the orders of the courts.Our courts are lenient & at times do not want to rub the politicians on the wrong side.This leniency is taken as a weakness.It is unacceptable. True democracy will not survive if court orders are disobeyed.Judicial verdicts should be free from pride & prejudice, free from fear & favour,Free from malice & illwill.Unless Judiciary spell their opinion boldly & effectively in accordance with the letter & spirit of the constitution,it would be construed as a failure of democracy.M.Ps & MLAs have to be told unmistakeably that laws are to be obeyed.The President & the Prime minister should try to see that our judiciary is respected by all, especially by those who are entrusted to rule.The media should take up this issue & educate the people of the wrong-doings of men holding high offices under our constitution.
RE:SETHUSAMUDRAM ISSUE
by deepti de on Aug 04, 2008 02:27 PM Permalink
if supreme court bans them they will be represented by their spouse. e.g. Lalu Prasad
RE:Karunanidhi & Co
by rohiet on Aug 04, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
Spread the news that Kurananiddi is destroying the 'ADAM BRIDGE' (RAM Sethu) through which Adam crossed over to SriLanka to do a penance for 1000 years at Adam's peak.
See how will UPA and DMK will come forward to save it.
RE:Karunanidhi & Co
by Kamal on Aug 04, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
True - but tell me one political party which is not an opportunist. The question here is MK is hurting the feelings of millions of hindus and can he dare to the same against other religions.
Karunanidhi says he is an atheist. And is always vociferous against Hindus.
But attended the inaugaration of a movie on St. Thomas which is made in Tamil. In the movie there is a scene in which St.Thomas meets Thiruvalluvar!! Actually thiruvalluvar's period is still in contention. It is assumed he lived the period in between 1200 BC to 200 AD!! And St. Thomas visit of India is actually a figment of imagination of the missionaries. Still Karuna:) finds no problem in endorsing the movie!! He allows the missinaries to roam freely in his state, and gets their vote in return.
The missionaries widely use 'Why I am not a Hindu' written by Kanch Illaih. They distribute this venomous book among SC/ST, translated to Tamil. And the most ludicrous part of this farce is, actually the missionalries are aping someone who was one of the greatest thorn in their own flesh. The Great 'Burtrend Russel', who wrote 'Why I am not a Christian', and another Intellectual giant who has written a book with the same title !!
RE:Karuna :)
by sanjay on Aug 04, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
true..whole southern TN will be converted to christianity if Karuna stays in power for some more time
RE:Karuna :)
by niranjani shety on Aug 04, 2008 02:21 PM Permalink
man please define Hindu, remaining subservient to brahmins is the definition of Hinduism, why don't you stop eulogising the philosophy and politics which is nothing but works to the advantage of uppercaste. Please Don't try to fool all the people the all the time.
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by sanjay on Aug 04, 2008 02:25 PM Permalink
@shetty r u a rice sack convert? who asked u to obey brahmins?? by the way,right now its the brahmins who are at the receiving end everywhere in India!!
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by SRINIVASAN KRISHNASWAMY on Aug 04, 2008 02:38 PM Permalink
Hinduism is the religion based on the vedas and their byproducts.Subservient to brahmins??Ms Shetty u know very little about Hinduism or the Vedas.It is because of people like u and ur sick JNU based history books that people can ridicule and make fun of our faith.I guess U r much bigger enemies of Hinduism than any Muslim or Christian
RE:Karuna :)
by Sree Kumar on Aug 04, 2008 02:27 PM Permalink
Last month I had an opportunity to visit Chennai. While travelling inside the city, I was surprised to see so many offices of different Christian missionaries, virtually after every 1 KM. As someone has rightly said earlier, leaders like Karunanidhi practice selective secularism. But again the same question. When there is so much anger in the minds of people, why don't they vote these people out.
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by prakash mohanasundaram on Aug 04, 2008 02:36 PM Permalink
Sreekumar, next time when u come here dont be surprised to see a shopping mall selling various sects of Christianity with luring deals Aadi sale, convert 1 get 1 car free, 50% off on all your bills life time etc etc.Maybe who knows they might even change the name to St.Chennaiburg!!!!!
RE:RE:RE:Karuna :)
by ram mohan on Aug 04, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
There are stories all indian hindu godmans who slept with white females including one whos slept with sister nivedita.most indian hindu godman are fetish towrds white skin.
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by ram mohan on Aug 04, 2008 04:04 PM Permalink
In america and Uk at least one curch is demolished ever week and converetd it aa a Mosque,a temple or a Gurudwara.Why you are not seeing to it.
RE:Karuna :)
by sanjeev ganguly on Aug 04, 2008 02:16 PM Permalink
this moron if against hindu then why he is not embracing islam or christianity???????? why he is taking the support of hindu name?????????? this type of selfish, selfrespectless, personalityness, rootless people shud be hanged until three death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Karuna :)
by ram mohan on Aug 04, 2008 02:17 PM Permalink
The computer you use,the electricity you use,the televison you use,the mobile you use are not the inventions of hinduism.The contribution of Hinduism to modern technology is a big zero
RE:Karuna :)
by SRINIVASAN KRISHNASWAMY on Aug 04, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
wELL THESE THINGS ARE NOT CONTRIBUTIONS OF ANY RELIGION tHERE ARE A LOT OF ASPECTS OF CODING THEORY THAT BEAR RESEMBLANCE TO pANINIAN GRAMMAR AND ASPECTS OF CODING OF SAMA VEDA ARE ALSO WIDELY STUDIED.U SEEM TO KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT INDIA OR HINDUISM BUT ARE SHAMELESSLY JUDGEMENTAL ABOUT THE SAME.
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by ram mohan on Aug 04, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
You you read all these,and make more inventions and discoveries useful in daily use.dont beat around the bush
RE:Karuna :)
by Vinayak on Aug 04, 2008 02:27 PM Permalink
You pseudo secular crap. How is religion connected to Scientific inventions? If that being the case what about Aryabata? Only people like you talk ill about your own countrymen.
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by ram mohan on Aug 04, 2008 03:52 PM Permalink
Religion is closley connected with religion,why most of the inevention happened in europe or america or japan.why such inventions happened in muslim countries or India or nepal
RE:Karuna :)
by Dude on Aug 04, 2008 02:31 PM Permalink
you right. might be you will get more reply lol here is mine You Indian should thank ful to Brit and Sardar Patel. Only this two ppl is the reason behind the INDIA. First Biritsh next one Guju LOL. Because of World Bank Money still India other wise. UN might had 24 new nations. its true there might more the 24 nations lol.
RE:Karuna :)
by prakash mohanasundaram on Aug 04, 2008 02:31 PM Permalink
Mr. Ram Mohan, The items listed in sentence 1 are invented by scientists with profound knowledge in their respective fields. They were christians by religion.It is not because they were Christians, they invented all this. Hope you get this.So religion played little or no role in these inventions. Moreover if we look at Indian History, it can be seen that this country was by far the richest and most techologically advanced in the world then. Till Gallileo's time the whole of Europe thought world is Flat. Whereas in India by then our ansestors had perfected Astronomy and distances between earth, planets sun & moon were calculated. our knowledge in the field of Medical research was good. Most of it were destroyed during various invasions and more importantly during the British rule. So instead of sucking up to western concepts and religions, try understanding the richness of our Country. It was the British, French, Dutch and portugese who came and looted India.
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by ram mohan on Aug 04, 2008 03:55 PM Permalink
what diffenece it made in life of people wheather world is round or flat.more than half of the people were considered as dalits and reamained untouchables.
RE:Karuna :)
by sanjay on Aug 04, 2008 02:23 PM Permalink
@ram mohan whose contribution it is ?also tell whose contribution abt HIV,World wars,slavery ?
For three hundred years, ie the period of industrial revolution, we were under British rule. They were not promoting Science here. The education they were giving to a miniscule part of Indians were to make clerks.
Indians were denied this opportunity to explore in science, due to this.
But finally, recently India Locomotive Engineers were sent to Brition to do their work. The reason now they did'nt had the expertice.
RE:RE:RE:Karuna :)
by ram mohan on Aug 04, 2008 03:50 PM Permalink
Indian engineers are cheap,for such work British engineers must paid 500 pounds per day British ruled India only for 90 years.for 1857(after sepoy mutiny)and left on 1947,it is not 300 yearsfor your information,all people from menon community were British chamchas or clerks,or just british tax collectors
RE:Karuna :)
by Mayur Aandi on Aug 04, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
Yes. contribution of hindus to maths, sci and tech is big zero...who do you think invented zero and the decimal system? without the invention of zero, you will still be using i, ii, iii, iv etc...and will be counting like monkeys for banana :-)
RE:Karuna :)
by Mayur Aandi on Aug 04, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
dude....you still dont get it do you...how is all modern technology possible without decimal, binary systems? invention of the system of counting and measuring is the single more important factor towards the growth of science. so if you hate the zero invented by hindus and everything that came out of it, you also should not use the computer ok? there is nothing wrong with my ego....its just your hatred and prejudice that you dont see things straight. I dont have any inhibitions in using what is best for me irrespective of which religion invented what. Infact I dont even care about it. But since you asked what did hindus invent, I just gave a beginning. Obviously you cant even digest the beginning..and how are you going to digest other great contributions ??
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by sanjeev ganguly on Aug 04, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
@RAM MOHAN IDIOT, DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING THE WHOLE MATHEMATICS IN WHICH WE STARTS COUNTING AND SCIENCE IS BASED , IS THE INVENTION OF HINDU-ARYABHATT -PLANTS HAVE ALSO LIFE-THE GREAT INVENTION -WHO DID? MEGNATH SAHA, A HINDU -HAVE U FORGOTTEN THAT WHO HAD FOUND THE GREAT MISTAKE IN EINSTINE THEORY, A HINDU FROM SOUTH INDIA! -AQND THE NUMEROUS CONCEPT FOR INVENTION HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY THE WESTERN FROM HINDU BOOKS LIKE MAHABHARATA, RAMAYANA, BEDA. THE INVENTION WHAT YOU ENJOY NOW, IT ALL EXISTED IN ANCIENT INDIA , IN REVOLUTION CY7CLE ALL HAD BEEN DESTROYED AND THE NEW LIFE CYCLE WHAT WE R VISUALISING . THESE R ALL PROVEN FACT!
RE:RE:RE:Karuna :)
by ram mohan on Aug 04, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
Inventions came first and theories came late in europe.we indians sat on theories made in a language which cannot be under stood by any common people.what invention i enjoy now is existed in ancient india.Muslims and hindus are same class,they always say every thing is written in Koran and thier Vedas.dont mix Ramayan and Mahabharat with this
RE:Karuna :)
by arjun on Aug 04, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
ZEROOOOOOOOOOO...... mr. ram mohan ....this zero pe jo lecture vivekanandji ne kaha woh bhoool gaye.....? ha ha ha
RE:Karuna :)
by SJP on Aug 04, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
He dislikes Hinduism because he dose not want to drink cow’s urine. Instead he wants to drink milk and eat beef. There are historic evidences on St. Tomas’s visit to India. When you say BC (Before Christ) that it self speak history. But what about Thiruvalluvar? Who is he? Is there any evidence there was someone called Thiruvalluvar?. Otherwise also these menons are only the A** lickers of rich landlords.
RE:RE:Karuna :)
by galilio on Aug 04, 2008 03:23 PM Permalink
rediffmail is a christian supporting portal and all my postings on st thomas were removed by them.
