Well i think its the parents decision that counts the most. They are the one's who have decided to bring the child to this world, so they are the best to decide what needs to be done. Its their decision. Now that the child has some abnormality, its not their fault. Obviously every parent would want their child to be a healthy and a normal one.Who is responsible if the child gets an heart attack during the delivery and things get more worse..? The court permits abortion before 20th week, if this is permissible then i guess in case of an abnormality in the child, it is the parents right to decide what needs to be done....... or else people should start sending cheques to these parents rather than blaming them or giving them unwanted fundas.....
RE:Right of the Parents
by Dolphin Cool on Aug 04, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
Why not Anil Ambani concentrate on helping this couple??? (Instead of trying to buy some football club in UK)?
RE:Right of the Parents
by Anirudh on Aug 04, 2008 05:57 PM Permalink
Are you helping this couple according to your capacity? If not, how do you expect someone else to do it just bcoz he is successful!!!
RE:Right of the Parents
by P S Y on Aug 04, 2008 06:25 PM Permalink
there u are now, where are these corporate guys??? and for whom are they earning so many thousand crores ?????
RE:Right of the Parents
by MJ on Aug 04, 2008 05:44 PM Permalink
if parenst want BOY, & there is a GIRL, so as per your RULE, they can go for ABORTION. it is SILLY man??
RE:RE:Right of the Parents
by girish bhatia on Aug 04, 2008 05:49 PM Permalink
Mr. MJ here we are talking about a child and not specifically about girl or boy child.... so better give some thoughts before posting any comments....
RE:Right of the Parents
by Gyani on Aug 04, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
Agreed...
In the above said case parents should be given rights to chose whether they should give birth to child or not.
Although it should not be made a common practise but with consultation of medical & judicial authorities it should be allowed.
The consequences will be terrible.
Justice Khandeparkar observed "It is the job of the legislature to help you alter the provision. We cannot legislate the provision," my foot.
Is the court going to provide them all the financial help required throughout their future.....??? Is the court going to compensate for their mental torcher they will face throughout their life.....??? Is the court going to provide that child a good future.....???
The answer is NO. They just made a decision and ruined 3 lives. Im sure after this that couple wont dare to have another child.
I can't understand the law which is ready to destroy 3 lives to save one who is not even born......???
RE:RE:Right of the Parents
by Shivam Parikh on Aug 04, 2008 05:50 PM Permalink
I agree with Gyani.
The HC is just a name for "Cause Delays" and "Move to Supreme Court" that will generally move it back to HC, and then HC will spend more time deciding.
In the case of life and death, this should have been sent straight to Supreme Court.
Further, its a foetus (for crying out loud), not a baby, not a child..
Termination should be allowed.
PS - peoplesaying dont kill the baby..I agree dont KILL "A" Baby...this isnt a baby...its a foetus...
RE:Right of the Parents
by girish bhatia on Aug 04, 2008 05:47 PM Permalink
Well said Mr. Prasad... I fully agree with you.... some orthodox people wouldn't think like this and will just post comments without giving it a thought....
RE:RE:Right of the Parents
by P S Y on Aug 04, 2008 06:35 PM Permalink
hummmn, thanx for defending me.... one thing people don't think is that, the struggle that the child has to bear.... Though the parents will shower with all the happiness and joy to that child, ultimately those will get dissolved with the pain that the child faces......
The law is made by govt to help justice happen with the new born baby... The laws are made for all and every law will face exceptional case like this.. We all must agree that the parents are from Middle class and cant bear the burden if the baby is born unhealthy.. also they wont wish their child to live his life in this way.. They must have surely taken the decision to ask for abortion after putting stone on their heart.. It must really not be a easy decision by them..
Now since the Govt has made the laws and we have to abide it.. Govt. should also see that utmost care is taken of the baby so that either the baby comes out of the problem or he is given all necessary treatment to be kept alive..
RE:RE:Govt. should help the couple..
by Bunty on Aug 04, 2008 05:43 PM Permalink
there is nothing exceptional. there are so many children with disabilities, u mean to say all should have been aborted.
RE:regarding aborting unhealthy child
by shiva kumara on Aug 04, 2008 05:43 PM Permalink
I don't see the correlation between the two. Once the life is born you should take the decision of termination under the extreme condition. If they are going to suffer a problem which will kill them gradually, painfully and it has no cure, then I am for mercy killing. On the other hand, the child is not born.
RE:regarding aborting unhealthy child
by Passionate Indian on Aug 04, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
Good logic inappropriately used.
The child is not even born as yet. An MTP will save him and his parents a huge amount of agony. Parents on the other hand are alive - they would need care.
RE:regarding aborting unhealthy child
by Bunty on Aug 04, 2008 05:44 PM Permalink
hmm valid point. bascially the mehta couple is very selfish and also with cruel intent. i doubt it may also be girl child.
In the above said case parents should be given rights to chose whether they should give birth to child or not.
Although it should not be made a common practise but with consultation of medical & judicial authorities it should be allowed.
The consequences will be terrible.
Justice Khandeparkar observed "It is the job of the legislature to help you alter the provision. We cannot legislate the provision," my foot.
Is the court going to provide them all the financial help required throughout their future.....??? Is the court going to compensate for their mental torcher they will face throughout their life.....??? Is the court going to provide that child a good future.....???
The answer is NO. They just made a decision and ruined 3 lives. Im sure after this that couple wont dare to have another child.
I can't understand the law which is ready to destroy 3 lives to save one who is not even born......???
RE:Not a correct judgement at all.
by Jayaprakash Balan on Aug 04, 2008 05:51 PM Permalink
Completely agree with you sir. This is a very bad judgement. These justice makers are not understanding the practicality of the situation when the child would come out. Who would help the couple to bring up the child when its so difficult for even a perfect child to be brought up and survived in this society. All those against abortion are responsible for India's population explotion and India's poverty and underdevelopment. Above that, this court judgement has only supported their wishes. With such sort of sytem around India will always remain an underdeveloped and poor country. The life of a child or person even with a little handicap is worser than animals, imagine the life of a person with serious disorders, and now the court and the govt. wants such children to come to this world and suffer. Can the govt. or the court give assurance of the child will be brought up and treated free. The child will be killed everyday after birth. My sympathies with the couple.
RE:Not a correct judgement at all.
by shishu paul paul on Aug 04, 2008 06:01 PM Permalink
I am 100% agree with you. There will be no future of this child. Yes, we must think practically. Parents will have more child in future.....but if this child takes birth....he/she will suffer a lot.
Think about the child after it is born and not just the parents. It will have apermanent diabilating heart condition. he/She wont be able to grow up normally. He will be unable to join his friends in playing. Susceptible to frequent infections. Frequent visits to hospitals. If termination was done the foetus wouldnt even feel anything, as its still not alive yet.
If we can't abort the child when it is found abnormal and disabled in the scanning, they why should we go for scanning? Just to see if the child is alive or not? Just to save mother? I feel we should make use of the technology to give birth to the children who will think the birth is a boon and not a bane.
I am male, if you see the complete details through mother's eye , she is right because she knows very well that what is going to be happen in the future with my baby if by chance he / she is not fully fit, Only mother can give the birth and keeping in mind that her child will be best in the world and definately she has the right to abort is she knows that her child's future is in dark. Shishu Paul -
RE:Wrong decision
by Bunty on Aug 04, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
belive me. she is one of selfish mother we have in this world.why did she approach court?? i have seen mothers aborting for flimsy reasons like not enough spacing between children. but nothing justifies abortion except rape.
RE:Wrong decision
by pp rr on Aug 04, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
Weather the child is inside or outside, healthy or unhealthy, its the responsibility the of parents to take care of their own flesh and blood with life in it.Afterall no one goes to court asking for permission to kill their own child.Parenting is not a matter of convinience.
RE:Wrong decision
by Passionate Indian on Aug 04, 2008 05:48 PM Permalink
Oh what kind of imbeciles are putting their thoughts here!!! Do you think saving a child from suffering is selfish. Do you even know the meaning of selfish!!!!
RE:Wrong decision
by Mahesh on Aug 04, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
Mother is not God. Even a mother or father cannot kill her/his child. That's why the law says after 20 weeks, a life has already formed. You have no right to take it away.
In india, there are so many abortions, even after the week mentioned in this case. Those things don't comes to court. In this case, they trusted our legal system, end they got the reverse. This is bad. When the medical community is saying it has some complication leading to born of unhealthy child. On has to be pratical, these couples are of middle class, it will be difficult for them to keep the kid alive.
It is heartening to see there is somebody to care for this unborn child. It is one thing to abort within a few weeks of pregnancy and it is another when it is this late. The baby can feel the music listened to by mom and can hear her/his mom. Basically the baby learns right from mothers womb. It is tragic that they want to abort the baby even when the doctors say there is little chance of abnormality.
RE:Heartening....
by Think Pad on Aug 04, 2008 05:37 PM Permalink
The law should be amended not to enable murder of babies but to enable punishment of the most heinous crime, of murdering or trying to murder their own child.
The hardest of punishment should be for this crime, no crime is as inhuman and heinous as killing own child.
RE:Heartening....
by Shivam Parikh on Aug 04, 2008 05:44 PM Permalink
Who said its a baby... ;-) Its not..its still a foetus...so are you saying that murder of feotus is not allowed or baby? or both?
Once again, people are brining out their own opinion without understanding what a FOETUS is...don't you realise they say 26 week foetus..not baby....as a result its not murdering a child...which again means, they're not doing anything wrong. (unless we start issuing statements against TERMINATION foetus... see the emphasis on "termination" and not "killing")
RE:Heartening....
by usefulldata on Aug 04, 2008 05:49 PM Permalink
if the child is born with above mention problem then who have to servive is the child, parent or our bul shit law..? i think she has to abort if they can not give him the good life.... instead of dieing every day it will be better to die before come to the problem.. this time only one will be die but after birth whole family will die every day... not our law.....
selfish/cruel parents : 1.they want boys to be born. 2. they want only healthy child. I agree everybody wishes for health child, but if he/she is not healthy , do we kill them.??
RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by Nadarajan on Aug 04, 2008 06:08 PM Permalink
are they ur neighbours. u r confidently saying they want boys. u r writing with present mind. If u can take care of that kid, please sponsor it, else shut ur mouth and get lost. U have no right to say above kind of words. Are u married, or u have kid that also with deficiency , then u will realise the problem.
RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by shiva kumara on Aug 04, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
The child is not yet born. And will you pay for the welfare of the child every month 1000Rs?
RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by Mahesh on Aug 04, 2008 05:43 PM Permalink
When doctors say there is hardly any chance of abnormality why do they want to abort? If bringing up a baby is a problem 1) They should have thought before pregnancy or until 20 weeks of pregnancy. 2) Give the child to the NGOs that is ready to raise it.
RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by Shivam Parikh on Aug 04, 2008 05:45 PM Permalink
Is cry againt killing babies or foetus :)
RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by Nadarajan on Aug 04, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
so u want one more child / family to leave at your mercy.
RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by Dharam Dhutia on Aug 04, 2008 05:53 PM Permalink
I think this is the worst decision given by the High Court.... by doing this they have proved that the Indian law cant be trusted.... poor parents and the poor child will have to suffer the rest of their lives and all of u out here are goin to forget abt this issue......
RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by sanjay on Aug 04, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
man,when u know both parents and child gonna suffer,then y cnat we go for a less painful option??
RE:RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by Bunty on Aug 04, 2008 05:37 PM Permalink
even after normal healthy childs birth some times child gets cancer and other serious disease, does mother kill them ??
RE:RE:parents/would be parents have become very selfish and cruel..
by usefulldata on Aug 04, 2008 05:51 PM Permalink
if u know then yes.... becz that a foetus not child
