The main thing is when, why and how. Is Congress started it just before yatra to begin (May 2008) for vote-bank politics in coming election. PDP was not in good relation after transfer of power. It got reason to plug-out. It may has eye on election. New equation or alliance may come. Was Azad right for the post? Nothing is heard from Dr. Karan Singh.
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is par
RE:Muslim
by Albert Pintoo on Aug 14, 2008 10:46 AM Permalink
Yeah... they are all thieves... deported by british to this far island. They got freedom... by killing all the aboriginals. Australians are the most racist I have ever seen ...
in parliment in his speech supporting govt. omar said muslims will fight for their land till last drop of blood. omar should be put behind bars immediately, no forest land belongs to muslims or to omars father. land belong to all hindustanis. pseudosecularists have not objected to his rhetoric.
RE:insane omar
by Albert Pintoo on Aug 14, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
Where were the Abdullahs when Kashmiri pundits were driven out of their home land? Kashmir does not belong to muslims only. It's time india scrap 357 and implement proper rule their. Enough of softness towards Kashmir...
RE:RE:insane omar
by arun kumar on Aug 15, 2008 11:54 AM Permalink
omar abdulla 's grand father was a hindu whos mother was raped and forcifully converted to islam like 20 c0r0res mussies here.
RE:insane omar
by critic on Aug 12, 2008 02:53 PM Permalink
HE IS A "TRAITOR"!!! Read this news item:"This explains what happened on July 22. Kuldeep Raj Dogra, in his mid-30s, who was participating in a hunger strike at Jammu's Parade Ground, decided to do something tragically dramatic: He consumed poison, stood up to read out a passionately patriotic poem he had penned, faltered and fell dead. "It was his way of registering his protest against Omar Abdullah's speech in Parliament...." HIS QURBANI WILL NOT GO AS A WASTE!!!
RE:insane omar
by arun kumar on Aug 15, 2008 11:52 AM Permalink
kuldeep is our countries new martry in a fight for freedom from bearded terrorism.hail to his father and mother.all peace loving ,patriotic countrymen r proud of kuldeep.
RE:insane omar
by love guru on Aug 13, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
dear james bond
give me one reason why should muslim support BJP. what has BJP given to muslims, but hatred and enemyship between each other. yes i woul like to clear one thing."" who are kafirs---- KAFIRS ARE THOSE MUSLIMS , WHO ARE SUPPORTING "" BJP" "
WHAT bjp has done in gujrat, UP for Muslim isnt enough?? this is the war drom BJP against muslims and not against TERRORISM. how did police receive and defused all the bombs found in surat and not a single exploded.
it was completely full prrofed plan by BJP in Surat.
Why are only muslims being killed in kashmir by police, when the same curfew was being launched at jammu.why?
RE:insane omar
by rakesh bhat on Aug 16, 2008 01:26 AM Permalink
listen u ?. people are killed in kashmir becoz they are antinationals. because they want every thing from needle to aeroplane from India,enjoy every economic pakage,luxry of freedom to abuse our country ,luxry of freedom to call us father of nation as a militant,luxry of enjoying more pay scale as in comparison to people from jammu,luxry of discriminating the jammu people from their rights,luxry of being the most courrpt people of india,luxry of killing thousands of kashmiri pandits,luxry of forcing around 3 lakh kashmiri pandits to live in exile,and above and all luxry of calling them selves secular people. they also have the luxry of having the full support of national media (times now.NDTV who seem to be the inlaws of Pranav Gowsami,Barkha Dutt.). Where as at Jammu people chant bum Bum Boole,Jai mata De, Bharat Mata Ki Jai,indian Army Zindabad this is the difference between jammu and kashmir. At jammu people die for being patroit At Srinagar people die for not being patroit. in india how does it sound like if army kills the people who chant Bharat Mata Ki Jai,where same army lay their life for the same slogan.
As ur self if ur slef first of all if ur an indian enought and then man enough.
and how does a army personel feel if he kills a man who says pakistan zindabad ?
if ur indian enough then u will get ur answer other wise ------------------------------
RE:RE:insane omar
by S S on Aug 17, 2008 08:56 PM Permalink
For your believed God sack, please act as per your name "love guru" in this posting... I see the same posting everywhere from you in this matter... If nothing was done to Muslims then you would not have asked this question today... You have all answers but still asking... Introspect yourself to find answers... Think always about common man irrespective of any religion/cast. Also think that, with all this, no harm has happened to all these group leaders, terrorists groups, and politicians, BUT for common man who are innocents and who could be your brother/sister or parents or relative… so we should not at all allow these kind of extreme thoughts… Highest purpose/meaning of any religion is to love your next person irrespective of cast/color/religion or handicapped…
RE:insane omar
by Albert Pintoo on Aug 14, 2008 10:51 AM Permalink
1) When you vote, you vote for the country. not for your cast or religion 2) What congres and other kashmiri parties have done to the pundits? 3) The reason only muslims are killed in Kashmir is because there are only muslims there. Terrorists have either killed or diven away all the hindus out of kashmir. Hope that answers your question.
Re: insane omar
by nadeem bashir on Aug 29, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
Yeah Ofcourse there are most muslims in Kashmir and the Kaahmiri pundits have left although some of the families live here as before in certain areas, Now you told that muslims are killed b'coz there r only muslims, .....why don't u yourself realize why it happen if there were also more pundits, some of them also get harmed, which culture/society is safe now from above two? Kashmiri muslims or kashmiri pundits and who got perished.... i hope you have understood who was behind the removal od Kash... pundits....
RE:insane omar
by Taral Prakash Bhatt on Aug 15, 2008 08:33 AM Permalink
And what have India done to Muslims? Except for a few exceptions they have simply destroyed India's culture and also divided the country! First deserve and then desire?
RE:Look beyond what ?
by EHTISHAM on Aug 27, 2008 11:29 AM Permalink
hindus are the most intolerant of people they r the ones who killed muslims in gujrat in bombay and now we wont let them do the same in kashmir this is no gujrat ...they have now started killing christians if muslims were fanatics no yatriwould have gone back alive from kashmir
RE:Kashmir
by Ramdas Iyer on Aug 10, 2008 10:59 PM Permalink
If so then cleanse the Kashmir valley of the infiltrators. We in the other parts of the country will never waste our hard earned income as taxes to pay the Indian security forces so as to humour a few kashmiris. Many states in India have had Hindu Muslim conflicts. They have all solved it by fighting against it by themselves. Only Kashmiri Pandits are begging other Indians to help them in their fight. Well, we will not. When EVR Naidu in Tamil Nadu started a campaign to kill Tamil Brahmins, we didnt beg the Kashmiris to help us. Defend yourself if you have the guts or perish!!!
RE:RE:Kashmir
by Taral Prakash Bhatt on Aug 15, 2008 08:37 AM Permalink
Ramdas Iyer Whatever remains of your brahminical culture has flourished outside border of TN No one cares any about brahmins in TN Even Jayalalta dared to arrest Kanchi Seer. If yiou are so brave why don't you fight with the DMK in TN.
RE:RE:Kashmir
by rakesh bhat on Aug 16, 2008 01:45 AM Permalink
do u know wht is AK 47 ? do u know wht is minority 5 to 8 % i am sure u don`t know. let me assure u if an AK 47 is put on ur throat i will gurantee u that u will strip ur monther as will ur wife as well as ur daughter if she is at the puberty age. becoz every body like u piss in pants when they see a small weapon.people like u only roar through mails.practically they piss of like u.bye the way u have been a begger whole of ur like tht is why u understand the meaning of begging so clearly. i wonder are there any Brahmins in Tamil.ur the first and the last one . sweet heart come down jammu let us learn from u how to fight, one suggestion for you. get 4 to 5 dosens of trousers with u. becoz i know ur going to piss after every 5 minutes once u come to know the kashmir & kashmiri Pandits.
Re: RE:Kashmir
by Ajay Acharya on Jan 02, 2009 10:11 PM Permalink
It is shame of a statement coming from a fellow Brahmin. I knew these Iyers and many Brahmin clan were career and money minded... but never knew they were traitors. Well, that explains why we had many Brahmins as ministers under the Mus-lim rulers. Shame on you Ramdas Iyer. You make me bend my head in shame. As it is, we Brahmins have caused enough problems in Hindu society with our caste discrimination, and now you make a sick statement like this, that reflects your upbringing.
RE:RE:Kashmir
by maharaj krishen on Aug 13, 2008 02:01 PM Permalink
hey ramdas! r u living in fools paradise, cant u guy think beyond ur feet u know u have no knowledge of history & ur whole world seems to b only money & nothing else. mr, u should understand it that "who dont learn from the history r condemned to repeat it". ur this speak speaks volumes about ur mental bankrupsy & narrow mindedness, well guy try to rise above these only materialistic cocoon and try to c world beyond ,dont u know other from rights every citizen has some fundamentle duties also towards country & fellow people. u know it hasnt come on its own what u c today ..u speak unbriddled, cast aspersons on all & sundry ,Dont u know that numberless people have sacrificed their everything from time to time then & only then u r able to speak anything today. Hope should not have become so UNGRATEFUL. Wd. regards from a proud KASHMIRI PANDIT. JAI HIND.....
10,000 forest trees are chopped down to build the Mughal road in Kashmir. No one makes a noise. Acres of land in the Kashmir valley are given to install mobile phone towers. No one screams.
Acres and acres of land in the Kashmir valley are allotted to lay sewage and drinking water pipes. No one objects.
But when 40 hectares of uninhabitable land is handed over to the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board to provide better facilities to the Amarnath Yatra pilgrims, all hell breaks loose.
Why? Because the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board caters to Hindu pilgrims who want to visit the Amarnath shrine in the valley of Kashmir. It is as simple as that.
Politically correct politicians, policy-makers and administrators might try to tell you that it is not about religion, but the fact of the matter is that it is all about religion. It is a design by communal forces within the valley to completely Islamicise the valley by removing every symbol of Hinduism and other faiths from the valley.
Today, these communal forces are preventing the setting up of facilities for the yatra, tomorrow they will even go to the extent of banning the yatra altogether.
The land transfer fiasco has already consumed the Ghulam Nabi Azad-led Congress government and is on its way to now adversely damage the state's economy. The fear psychosis has already resulted in a sharp decline of tourists to the valley. Counter-strikes and bandhs announced by the pro-land-transfer parties within the Jammu province have
RE:Appeasement of Minority is bad
by Avi Priten on Aug 10, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
Let us take a hard look at the arguments presented by the locals who opposed the transfer of land:
1. The allotment would have adversely affected the environment around the area. One wonders where these tree-hugging environmentalists were when the same government allowed the felling of 10,000 forest trees to build the 89 km-long Mughal road.
40 hectares of land that was going to be used to provide temporary shelters and night-time facilities to pilgrims was in fact going to help in proper maintenance of the current day waste that actually pollutes the environment. But who can argue with senseless politicians who instigate people to come out on the streets?
2. The allotment is the government's ploy to settle Hindus from outside the state to change the demographics of the valley. Look, who is talking! One has to only go back 18 years in the history and check who changed the demographics of the valley.
Islamic terrorists changed the demographics of the valley by ethnically cleansing Kashmiri Hindus from the valley. I wonder where these we-do-not-want-to-change-demographics-folks were when Kashmiri Hindus were slaughtered and the valley's demographics were altered.
One would like to ask a few questions: a. Is 40 hectares of land enough to settle so many Hindus that it would change the demographics of the valley?
b. By putting this argument of demographic change, are the valley's Muslims implying that Hindus are not welcome in the valley anymore? And I do not mea
RE:RE:Appeasement of Minority is bad
by Avi Priten on Aug 10, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
Having touched upon the outlandish arguments of those who oppose the allotment of land, let us look at some facts and the real story:
It was during the first three years of the Mufti Mohammad Sayeed-Ghulam Nabi Azad coalition government that the original proposal of land transfer was initiated and cleared. It was under Mufti Sayeed's leadership that his forest minister Qazi Mohammad Afzal and law minister Muzzafar Hussain Baig originally cleared the proposal. It just so happened that due to red tape, the proposal was finally approved by the cabinet when Azad had taken over as chief minister during the second three-year part of the six-year term.
The same PDP led by Mufti Sayeed was originally okay with this proposal. But as soon as the PDP smelt that terrorist outfits like the Hizbul Mujahideen were not in favour of the allotment of land and realised that it could become a polarising issue to whip up sentiments to garner votes in the upcoming assembly election, it backtracked.
Since it is an election year, the National Conference and other smaller political parties would not let the PDP cash in on this opportunity alone. They jumped into the fray and whipped up sentiments by fooling the local Kashmiri Muslims. And that leaves the Congress. How could the Congress not try to cash in on this polarising issue in an election year?
Azad did not waste any time and revoked his cabinet's decision to appease the Kashmiri Muslim vote bank. He did not just stop there. In add
RE:Appeasement of Minority is bad
by Raghuvendra Kumar on Aug 10, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
It is suicidal f0r the Indian secular dem0cracy t0 c0ntinue with the p0licy 0f appeasement f0r Min0rity even after 61 years 0f Independence. The Preamble 0f the C0nstituti0n guarantees Equality in all respects. Article 370 is against the very bas5c precepts 0f the C0nstituti0n- In the interest 0f the Nati0n just scrap it - the wh0le Pr0blem will be s0lved....! 0therwise th0usands 0f paid ISI agents like 0MAR ABDULLAH will be b0rn in India...!
RE:Appeasement of Minority is bad
by Albert Pintoo on Aug 14, 2008 10:59 AM Permalink
The reality is... after the state govt. took over the board, the tried to streamline the yatra... That affected many unorganized business around the yatra... mostly run by muslims. For years they were making money out of the plight of the pligrims. And... they got support from the terrorists and PDP...
Re: Appeasement of Minority is bad
by nadeem bashir on Aug 29, 2008 12:46 PM Permalink
The cutting of trees and installation of towers adds to development work there in kashmir, Now u said over the creation of facilities for Yatries, which are wellcomed every where in kashmir. I don't understand what is need for it as such facilities are always and already provided to Yatries from last one and a half centuary and no one then proposes for land. The land transfer for providing facilities to Yatries on Papers is just the cause for gaining vote bank and nothing else. If you have gone to Shri Amarnath Yatra some time you must have realized the facilities provided by people living there and Government and if not then you should inquire with the persons who had pursued Yatra.... Also no one speeks when there occurs a lanslide and snowstorm in that area..It was only the kashmiri people who rescued the Yatries and provide them food , shelter, Blankets and not the Government and those people who claim for a piece of land now.....I think it is sufficient to make some one understand and washoff doubts in there minds ...
RE:i would like to say to omer
by Avi Priten on Aug 10, 2008 12:11 PM Permalink
10,000 forest trees are chopped down to build the Mughal road in Kashmir. No one makes a noise. Acres of land in the Kashmir valley are given to install mobile phone towers. No one screams.
Acres and acres of land in the Kashmir valley are allotted to lay sewage and drinking water pipes. No one objects.
But when 40 hectares of uninhabitable land is handed over to the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board to provide better facilities to the Amarnath Yatra [Images] pilgrims, all hell breaks loose.
Why? Because the Shri Amarnath Shrine Board caters to Hindu pilgrims who want to visit the Amarnath shrine in the valley of Kashmir. It is as simple as that.
Politically correct politicians, policy-makers and administrators might try to tell you that it is not about religion, but the fact of the matter is that it is all about religion. It is a design by communal forces within the valley to completely Islamicise the valley by removing every symbol of Hinduism and other faiths from the valley.
Today, these communal forces are preventing the setting up of facilities for the yatra, tomorrow they will even go to the extent of banning the yatra altogether.
The land transfer fiasco has already consumed the Ghulam [Images] Nabi Azad-led Congress government and is on its way to now adversely damage the state's economy. The fear psychosis has already resulted in a sharp decline of tourists to the valley. Counter-strikes and bandhs announced by the pro-land-transfer parties within the J
I still remember the first speech of Mr. Omar Abdullah and to my surprise it was in Hindi in one of the villages in Kashmir. This gentleman has spent most of time in London and other places and he even didn't know who to speak his own mother tongue. It is a pity for this state and country that we select these people to represent us and what they do later needs no explaination. He made a good speech about Kashmir and Kashmiriyat but he forgot that same people burnt the flag of India and then raised Pakistani Flag in Lal Chowk area in protest of this issue. This is what he wants also "We cannot give land to Indian Govt but we are ready to join Pakistan". I would like to ask this gentleman why he did not make any comment on this and in his speech ...
RE:Omer Abdullah say 'Jaan denge lekin jagah nahin denge'
by critic on Aug 12, 2008 03:23 PM Permalink
Jaan HI deni PADEGI, Jagah tumhare bapu ki hai kya???
Why is this 40 hectares land such a contentious issue? How many people can it accomodate to alter the demography of the valley?
Why are politicians of the valley trying to exhort people to react violently and then expect the other side (Hindus) not to respond by means of bandh or economic blockade?
India has been more magnanimous with its minorities than any other country in the world. So much so that, many persecuted communities from around the world could come here, make it their home.
We have had a violent history full of wars between various kingdoms, empires. Should this continue even in modern times? Is the Kashmir valley not able to produce one sane leader who can guide the people on the path of peaceful co-existence.
We have seen many Pandits forced out. None of the valley politicians did anything to stop those who threatened and killed many Hindus, and Sikhs. Now, when the Hindu patience has run out and the streets of Jammu are evidence of that, the same Kashmiri politicians talk of peace. They say those protests are by BAD Hindus. Come on! Have some sense and respect for your brethern. We too have same feelings and pride. It was shocking to see Omer Abdullah say 'Jaan denge lekin jagah nahin denge'. We want to be brothers. But if the others do not reciprocate, then, the only way it can be solved is by asking them to get out. India underwent a division on the basis of religion once. Our magnanimity should not be abused again.
