Stampedes happen even in Mecca almost every year. The places of worship in India perticularly in Temples , is totally disorganised. The whole country called India itself is a very disorganised country. We have to organise ourselves properly which is what we have to learn from Americans and Europians. The stampede occured in so many temples which includes Andhra , that you would lose count of them. In one instance, collector level idiot conducted a special pooja and the entire devotees queue was stopped for hours.
Finally when they were let go the floor was wet ,slipped and fell while they ran helter ,skelter to be first, and ended up dying under the feet their fellow devotees. so a hundred people died.
Each time govt. will come up with some excuse. The announce a compensation of RS.one lakh and that is the end of it. What about organising ,managing large queues,gatherings at festivals,at temples ??
I think HP cheif minister must be forced to resign , so that politicians learn a lesson and would take certain measures in all temples so that devotees are taken good care of by temple's administration.
They only know to eat the devotees money from the HUNDI and give nothing back.
RE:stampede and places of worship
by me teesmaar khan hu on Aug 03, 2008 11:46 PM Permalink
1) God is everywhere. Both Hindus & Muslims should pray to respective Gods while sitting safe inside home with family members and with full devotion. (2) Donate money which you save from Ticket cost and other expenses to poors. (3) Prevent Flights/trains/buses from becoming over crowded espacially during holy months and allow safe mode of travel to those who have true need to travel. (4) Save time & energy
No crime in history is so long lasting, more serious and diabolically inhuman than the Hindu racism inflicted on a third of India’s indigenous Black Untouchables — sanctioned by the very religion and gods of Hindus, the micro-minority (15%) rulers of India.
RE:Dalit Voice
by Kohinoor Basu on Aug 03, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
Yeah, at least the Hindu Gods did not wipe you and your civilization out like the Christian's did to native americans. So much for being diabolical eh!!!
RE:RE:Dalit Voice
by Avinash on Aug 03, 2008 11:54 PM Permalink
Not only in America. The favourate pass-time of christians in Australia was hunting the natives (recently the Australian PM had tendered an apology for that)!
RE:Dalit Voice
by Alok Mehta on Aug 04, 2008 12:22 AM Permalink
Avinash As The Foreigners Aryans hunted Natives Dravidian's. Australian PM atleast gave an apology.Shame on you people you didnot even apologized for the mass murders commited by you.
RE:Dalit Voice
by Avinash on Aug 04, 2008 12:28 AM Permalink
Do you still beleive in the rubbish called Aryan-Dravidian theory? The historians have discounted that long back.
RE:Dalit Voice
by dallastxusa on Aug 03, 2008 11:45 PM Permalink
Yeah and no crime in history is so long lasting, more serious and diabolically inhuman than the Christian racism inflicted on USA's black Africans— sanctioned by the very religion and gods of Christianity, the rulers of USA.
RE:Dalit Voice
by Avinash on Aug 03, 2008 11:51 PM Permalink
Pl read Uncle Tom's Cabin to know what was the condition of the slaves in USA. Slavery is justified in both Bible and Quran.
RE:RE:RE:Dalit Voice
by vinayak purohit on Aug 03, 2008 11:54 PM Permalink
u r wrong in islam freeing the slave is supreme virtue alongwith forgiveness.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Dalit Voice
by Avinash on Aug 03, 2008 11:55 PM Permalink
What is meant by "what your right hand posses" ??? Try your trick with those who have not The Quran.
RE:Dalit Voice
by Farooq Khan on Aug 04, 2008 12:44 AM Permalink
Quran never promotes slavery and never says slavery is right thing...
In fact: Islam has clearly and categorically forbidden the primitive practice of capturing a free man, to make him a slave or to sell him into slavery. On this point the clear and unequivocal words of [Muhammad(SAW)] are as follows:
"There are three categories of people against whom I shall myself be a plaintiff on the Day of Judgement. Of these three, one is he who enslaves a free man, then sells him and eats this money" (al-Bukhari and Ibn Majjah).
RE:Dalit Voice
by Rajaguru on Aug 03, 2008 11:50 PM Permalink
Hindus have been equally slaves of the white masters. How many businesses inherited? McDowells, TVS, major laws from the British, good roads, English language itself including Madras Presidency (where true tamilian comes from)...so not a worthy point to say Christains are slaves to white masters...horrendous statement...adakki vaasiyum tamila....
RE:Dalit Voice
by true tamilan on Aug 04, 2008 12:03 AM Permalink
The biggest holocast in WW2 is in bengal where 4 million people died bcoz of english scorch the earth policy. they did build some schools and hospitals to convert natives.
(1) God is everywhere. Both Hindus & Muslims should pray to respective Gods while sitting safe inside home with family members and with full devotion.
(2) Donate money which you save from Ticket cost and other expenses to poors.
(3) Prevent Flights/trains/buses from becoming over crowded espacially during holy months and allow safe mode of travel to those who have true need to travel.
This sort of human tragedy takes place time and again and all those who can do something about it offer money and condolences. How about enforcing strict laws and rules of safety? How about avoiding such tragedies instead of offering too little too late? How about taking human life seriously?
RE:To christians
by true tamilan on Aug 03, 2008 11:35 PM Permalink
See the messages below. When tsunami stuck, these fathers and nuns went with truck load of food and materials to villages and asked them to convert. When villagers protested and media came. These guys escaped with their booties. What kind of madness is this?
RE:RE:To christians
by bluebie on Aug 03, 2008 11:38 PM Permalink
so then let hindus go to places where chrisitians suffer and try to convert chrisitians to hinduism...wht else can one say?
RE:RE:To christians
by Avinash on Aug 03, 2008 11:35 PM Permalink
We cannot expect anything better from those who deserted their culture for a few Kgs of rice and cheap american milk powder.
RE:To christians
by bluebie on Aug 03, 2008 11:36 PM Permalink
why can't ppl understand tht other religions have nothing to do here...why are ppl still trying to defame religions in general instead of offering condolences to the victims?
RE:RE:To christians
by true tamilan on Aug 03, 2008 11:39 PM Permalink
Go to a missionary hospital. You will know how christians operate. person will be in pain and suffering. These guys come and pray. This is the worst form of brainwashing human being cud conjure up with. With doctor's medicine people get cured.
RE:To christians
by bluebie on Aug 03, 2008 11:44 PM Permalink
if u feel so bad, dont go to missionary hospitals; there are other hospitals...or if u feel for the ppl, start a hindu mission hospital as a solution...sitting here and finding fault is very easy
RE:To christians
by bluebie on Aug 03, 2008 11:40 PM Permalink
true tamilian, rajaguru saying anything does not justify u saying something against another community...u r wholly missing the point tht innocent ppl died and the forum is meant to discuss how to prevent tht in the future and offer condolences...
